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SomeGuyX
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#18817418 - 09/09/13 12:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I believe I joined in on your other thread when you were talking about not being able to trip anymore, and I was feeling the same way. Well, I will probably trip in the next few weeks. I used to trip a lot as well, and it really sucks not being able to go back there. It's almost like a chunk of me is missing now. Soon, I guess...
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#18817431 - 09/09/13 12:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Honestly I can meditate and still experience an out of body on 3.5g. Don't jump into 7-10g. 3.5 is always the best dose. It gives you options to do anything you want. 7-10 gives you no options. I agree if you wanna do 7 grams you need to go into it with the mindset of just letting go of everything. Otherwise 3.5 just to get the real shroom space and the shroom effect.
I too and still do have a huge hesitation towards psychedelics. Seriously 3.5 is everything I needed when I got/get back into it. In fact I'm usually thankful for dosing so low. Usually can't imagine any bigger. Maybe my shrooms are just strong but 3.5 usually kicks me in the ass enough for me to remember who I am again.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Mad Season]
#18817439 - 09/09/13 12:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dosing high has only lead to my brain caving in while I am in a different dimension fighting for my sanity. :/ I want to try a high dose like that eventually, but I am currently working up to tripping at all. I will get there with time, too.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Mad Season]
#18817451 - 09/09/13 12:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: Honestly I can meditate and still experience an out of body on 3.5g. Don't jump into 7-10g. 3.5 is always the best dose. It gives you options to do anything you want. 7-10 gives you no options. I agree if you wanna do 7 grams you need to go into it with the mindset of just letting go of everything. Otherwise 3.5 just to get the real shroom space and the shroom effect.
I too and still do have a huge hesitation towards psychedelics. Seriously 3.5 is everything I needed when I got/get back into it. In fact I'm usually thankful for dosing so low. Usually can't imagine any bigger. Maybe my shrooms are just strong but 3.5 usually kicks me in the ass enough for me to remember who I am again.
No offense bro, but it sounds like you personally can't handle doses higher than 3.5 grams. Or you're not interested in trying. This is totally legit, some people get everything they desire out of that kind of medium dose trip.
But me, I can handle high dose trips, not meaning to brag, but it's just a fact. I had my spiritual awakening on 10 grams, and that night was also the most fun I have ever had in my life by farrr.
To REALLY get inside your head, really get to know yourself, gain crazy insight, see mind blowing and possibly important visions, you, or at least I need 7 grams ish.
But again, thats just me
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#18817477 - 09/09/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've done 14 grams once and 10g a bunch. I just don't see any reson to do it anymore. It usually just leaves me in bed for 8+ hours with intense mind loops, even AFTER letting go, I can let go but to keep gone is also a tough act. If you're seeking ego death it can be achieved on low doses. You always have a piece of ego loss every time but you can still let go from it with a solid meditation. I just enjoy euphoria rather than psychosis. Just my opinion. Not saying you don't feel great but u can still feel great on lower doses alone too.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Mad Season]
#18817504 - 09/09/13 12:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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P.S. if you can handle high doses why are you afraid of yourself? You dose high to find yourself. I just can find myself on low doses. Maybe it's something you get with experience but no lie high doses is what made me scared of myself in the first place. Well my ego. Low doses is what made me balance my ego. To accept it for what it is. Every trip can be spiritual. It actually boggles me you think only 7+ is. Don't underestimate the power of shrooms in any dose.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Mad Season]
#18817551 - 09/09/13 01:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: P.S. if you can handle high doses why are you afraid of yourself? You dose high to find yourself. I just can find myself on low doses. Maybe it's something you get with experience but no lie high doses is what made me scared of myself in the first place. Well my ego. Low doses is what made me balance my ego. To accept it for what it is. Every trip can be spiritual. It actually boggles me you think only 7+ is. Don't underestimate the power of shrooms in any dose.
You're making some good points, and even somewhat changing my mind on the subject. I possibly just don't have enough experience.
I shouldn't have said only 7g can be spiritual. It's just more intensely spiritual the higher the dose.
I became afraid of myself when I started doing some less than noble acts. Nothing too bad, but nothing I wanna talk about right now.
Maybe my next trip will force me to face it and move on.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#18817576 - 09/09/13 01:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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"Noble" what is that? All you're doing is letting your ego place boundaries. Accept it for what it is and move on. The real lesson that psychedelics teach is to live in the moment. When you're "finding yourself" all you're doing is living in the moment like a spirit would (note spirituality). If you live in the moment you have no fears or worries. No societal pressure. All you have is you and what you want. Psychedelics amplify this 100000x but still you can live daily like this too. Besides what else is real besides this moment anyways? The past is just memories and the future is blank. Even memories can be changed like repressed memories. But you can't literally change the moment.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Mad Season]
#18817608 - 09/09/13 01:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Once I've tripped, I feel like... "satisfied", not sure if thats a real good word for it, but it sort of deplete my urge to trip for a while, until I have another huge back up of thoughts, ideas, struggles, problems, goals, etc. that begin to brim from my brain. Then shrooms, resets it again, sort of starting anew chapter, not that what was before was thrown away, but it gets reorganized, prioritized and sort of... settled.
There are definitely times in my life where I feel a psych trip would be a really good thing for myself, and other times it does not appeal to me at all in the current situation (i.e. during school when there is a lot of work to do, times where i am mentally exhausted, going through a particularly rough period of time).
I usually find psychs (especially mushrooms) are awesome to do at very high/relaxed points in my life.
for example, about a year ago, all in about a month, I got accepted to the school of my dreams, began dating one of the most gorgeous girls i had ever met, and my music had taken a turn for the better. I had a mushroom trip during that time and I was almost overwhelmed by life, like what was to come, that no matter what happens there will be so many good thigns and opportunities for me. I was grinning for hours.
And after, I felt totally okay with not tripping again for another few months. brings a sense of calm to my mind for months afterwards. But this may just be me, i have many friends with varying degrees of experience in psychs and say they feel no different nor enlightened days/weeks after while I feel different for months.
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#18818586 - 09/09/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18818692 - 09/09/13 12:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just repect the mushrooms. All those wonderful thoughts and sensations can also spiral towards hell. Know your dose and prepare wisely.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: thormaxim]
#18818738 - 09/09/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I prefer medium doses, I get the most out of medium doses.
3.5Gs is medium to me.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: GreySatyr]
#18818749 - 09/09/13 12:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If its mushrooms; it's nothing less than 5 grams. I really really love the 7 gram trips. Scary as fuck; but the outcome usually is mass healing.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: jesslet]
#18818808 - 09/09/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The best reason to trip is when the weather is nice, you are in good spirits, and you have nothing to do for 24 hours.
these substances are not fun for the heart broken or discontented.
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: ressa69]
#18819023 - 09/09/13 02:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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you dont need a reason to trip, you need a reason not to trip like having to work in the morning or having to drive or too tired
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: Ogla]
#18819308 - 09/09/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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losfreddy said: you dont need a reason to trip, you need a reason not to trip like having to work in the morning or having to drive or too tired
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: SomeGuyX]
#18819967 - 09/09/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The only "reason" you need is that you want to. If you don't want to, don't. This has worked well for me for many years. 
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#18820503 - 09/09/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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sometimes i do it for fun. sometimes i do it to watch movies and either have a visual experience through the movie or a mental one. sometimes i do it to die and be reborn. sometimes i do it to think.
one trip in particular i spent a good 2 hours thinking about history and all the big accomplishments man has made to get to where we are and how that could have been me, i could have thought of those things. then i started thinking about all the jobs out there and how they don't seem all that hard. just takes a bit of learning and practice. i was thinking about computer engineers and astrophysicists and plumbers and construction workers and how if i had it in my heart and i wanted to i could do any and everything. then i was thinking more and everyone that has those jobs is human and i'm a human. just a little mental epiphany i had never thought about before.
sometimes i do it because i'm bored and have a night to myself. others i spend all day planning around my trip. fasting for 6-10 hours before the trip and such.
I don't really think you need a reason but anything you say in response to "why'd you trip tonight?" would in essence be your reason for that particular trip.
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FakePlasticSky said: If its mushrooms; it's nothing less than 5 grams. I really really love the 7 gram trips. Scary as fuck; but the outcome usually is mass healing.
This. Some people can't handle, or don't enjoy, the intensity of the really trippy trips. But the benefits are much greater than low dose
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Re: Do you need a "reason" to trip? [Re: jesslet]
#18820625 - 09/09/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trip for fun and love :-)
And don't worry
Love + finding the values in life that make you happy don't lie, but use moderately anyway
Use to embrace life, not to escape life
I have tripped maybe 150 times on LSD usually high doses, 30 times shrooms, and salvia too :-) and died on both a few times , egodeath can be a bit intense, not sure I will recommend that(takes years to process), you only know if you want to go there (it can be very good too, but each person has to decide for himself, and its always a possibility with psychedelics - thats what they do in the end) (had a NDE on 4g shroom chocolates and death on 3.5-4g too)
Always great experiences, if you get a bad experience it's usually a sign you need to take a break (tried that), after the break the trips were as good as ever
Egodeath = the red pill, if there is such a thing, I think there is  it will force you to rethink your whole life , and likely change your life in many ways if you go there (and it usually happens randomly , you might trip 100 times, or only 1-2 times before it happens) it might change nothing as well (if you already found yourself) for me the changes have been positive, I would never want to go back to my old self
egodeath gave me the same effect as the trip, everyday appreciation, acceptance of everything and very humbling too , impossible to get unhappy since it seeing the world and myself like first time I saw it, everyday since, appreciating everything I see it both has positives and bads, I would do it again if I was my old fake self ;-)
it's a spiritual path, and I think I was ready to start on one, because my life had been going wrong for a long time happened when I least expected it but at the right time
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