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cwats0n72
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First grow. Tips apprecited
#18815651 - 09/08/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is my first time attempting to cultivate mushrooms. I have ordered the Mushroom box mini as a fruiting chamber. I ordered 2 syringes of the Amazonian strain. I'm worried about keeping the right temperatures and humidity for them to grow. I'll be placing my chamber into a closet for discretion. I'm also worried about how many CC's to inject into each cake? How long should I keep the lights on during each process. I basically know the concept on how to go about growing, there's just a few small details I am worried about. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#18815655 - 09/08/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think you would be better off searching the forum for each separate question you've asked there buddy. You'll get yr answers and learn in the process...not being a dick but that would prob be better for you than getting drip fed 
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: Skinty]
#18815661 - 09/08/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: Stromrider]
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: Stromrider]
#18815690 - 09/08/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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WTH is a Mushroom Box Mini? Some form of Kit? Those things are a waste imo.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: Stromrider]
#18815705 - 09/08/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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As long as your temp doesn't go over 90 degrees you're good. Although 78ish is ideal. 12 on/12 off light cycle throughout. 1 cc each cake. 1/4 cc each hole (4 holes).
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: Sockadin]
#18815708 - 09/08/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sockadin said: WTH is a Mushroom Box Mini? Some form of Kit? Those things are a waste imo.
Yeah op if you want some to cultivate some fungus use them there videos I linked up to grow you some. They will show ya everything you need
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Thank you. And only 1 cc into each cake? Does it matter what size the cake is in order to determine how much spores to inject?
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#18817278 - 09/08/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Use as little spores as possible...only a drop or 2 is needed per hole, but you can use up to 1cc/ml per jar....I like to strech them out...
Some people use way more than that, but it is not needed, and will not speed up colonization that much....it's just adding more moisture.
You should be using short half pints for cakes, or quarts for grains.....no it should not matter what size the jars are....only 2 spores are needed to colonize the entire jar, and there are 100's if not 1000's of spores per cc/ml.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: PussyFart]
#18829180 - 09/11/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Would you be able to give me an estimate of how many grams (dry) I will get from each cake containing 1 cc. Amazonian strain.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#18829184 - 09/11/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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3.5-7grams
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#18829213 - 09/11/13 06:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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cwats0n72 said: Would you be able to give me an estimate of how many grams (dry) I will get from each cake containing 1 cc. Amazonian strain.
There is no way to know for sure, Amazonian is a variety, not a strain...yield is not based on the name of the variety....
You can get anywhere from 1-6 grams per flush, depending on different variables.....
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: PussyFart]
#18829233 - 09/11/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Approximately 0, give or take 1-6 grams
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: SpitballJedi]
#18829242 - 09/11/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, you can't have negative yield, so I think 3g, give or take 3g would be a little more accurate .
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: SpitballJedi]
#18829255 - 09/11/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm growing out of Mycojar's and the fruiting chamber I have only has about a 3-4" clearance above the top of the jars, is this height too small? I feel as if they would start to grow out sideways or something. Should I assemble FC so that they have more room to grow? Or could I possible take the cake out once colonized and place on its side? It would reduce height and increase width?
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#18829261 - 09/11/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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3-4" is extremely short. If you can assemble a better chamber, do it, otherwise the mushrooms should just bend.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18847553 - 09/16/13 03:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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What would be the easiest way to add humidity to the small space I'm fruiting in? And I have LECA? Does that need to be washed off before placing in FC? Do fishtank temperature stickers do any justice?
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#18858470 - 09/18/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's been 8 days and still no sign of myc :/ is there anything I can do to ease my suspicion? Can I move it to a different room with a little higher temp? The room it's colonizing in is probably around 60-70 from day to night. Is that too much of a fluctuation?
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#18885557 - 09/24/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Also I ordered the pre pasturized mycojar and it came with foil under the lid. Should I inoculate by puncturing through the foil? Or should I remove the foil then inoculate?
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#18885568 - 09/24/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't remove the lid. Just punch through the foil
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#18885569 - 09/24/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Punch through the foil, and don't ever order pre-made anything again.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18885596 - 09/24/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mush4Brains said: Punch through the foil, and don't ever order pre-made anything again.
Than you. And yeah, I've done tons of research and I know better than to get pre made supplies, but living with my girlfriend and her mom so I'm wanting to be really discrete with it. But thank all of you for the replies. I really appreciate it. I hope to be able to be the one answering questions like mine someday!
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72] 1
#18885659 - 09/24/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Throughout the past 11 days I've moved my jar around to various dark spots, trying to find a higer temperature. The temperature fluctuates a lot so I'm not exactly sure which spot is better. I also have a plastic drawer, could I put a heating pad under the plastic bottom, only on the front half, then put a folded towel down and set the substrate jar on the towel in the back half? Is placing it only on the front half a good idea for trying to warm the whole space? Or should I set directly underneath. It's 16"x12"x8?
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#18890525 - 09/25/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I happened to come across a big bag of vermiculite at work last night. I wasn't sure if this is what can be used in my process. If so I was going to take a few scoops. Is there anyway I could store this properly? This is what it looks like
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#18910816 - 09/30/13 11:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: Stromrider]
#18910887 - 09/30/13 11:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think you would be better off searching the forum for each separate question you've asked there buddy. You'll get yr answers and learn in the process...not being a dick but that would prob be better for you than getting drip fed  
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cwats0n72 said: I happened to come across a big bag of vermiculite at work last night. I wasn't sure if this is what can be used in my process. If so I was going to take a few scoops. Is there anyway I could store this properly? This is what it looks like

Ouch... That's specialty verm. I only use regular verm.  That stuff will work fine. I would store it in.. The bag it came in.
Did you still have a question?
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: bodhisatta]
#18912186 - 09/30/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think you would be better off searching the forum for each separate question you've asked there buddy. You'll get yr answers and learn in the process...not being a dick but that would prob be better for you than getting drip fed  
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cwats0n72 said: I happened to come across a big bag of vermiculite at work last night. I wasn't sure if this is what can be used in my process. If so I was going to take a few scoops. Is there anyway I could store this properly? This is what it looks like

Ouch... That's specialty verm. I only use regular verm.  That stuff will work fine. I would store it in.. The bag it came in.
Did you still have a question?
Thank you for the reply! I'll probably end up buying the right verm. Just thought it would be an easy score lol. But, I have a ton of questions as a first time grower. I've been doing my research to try to learn as well as find answers. But one of my biggest questions...I inoculated a grain bag and the temperature has been around 70-72 degrees, is this temp alright for colonozation? And once it's fully colonized, can I use a light to trigger fruiting, or should I just sit it on a dresser in my bedroom with filtered sunlight. The instructions on the bag said not to open it until harvest, but I was wanting to be able to mist and burp the bag ever so often to replenish water. Should I just let it take it's course?
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#18912291 - 09/30/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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That verm is OK to use it's verm. Verm is verm except some is fine-med- or coarse but it all will work if you pay attention to field capacity.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: bodhisatta]
#18924459 - 10/03/13 04:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why can't I start a new forum?
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#18949490 - 10/08/13 12:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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My house has dropped drastically in temp. Are my jars that are colonizing right now going to slow in growth only during the temperature drop, or is it going to effect the time overall?
And also, if someone could tell me why I can't start a new forum would be greatly appreciated
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#18949536 - 10/08/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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cwats0n72 said: My house has dropped drastically in temp. Are my jars that are colonizing right now going to slow in growth only during the temperature drop, or is it going to effect the time overall?
And also, if someone could tell me why I can't start a new forum would be greatly appreciated 
What would you like your forum to be about that isn't covered already...? 
I think "forum" isn't the word yr looking for buddy
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#18949953 - 10/08/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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cwats0n72 said: Why can't I start a new forum?
If you have the means and can acquire the necessary server space I say go for it
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: Stromrider]
#18981242 - 10/15/13 01:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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cwats0n72 said: Why can't I start a new forum?
If you have the means and can acquire the necessary server space I say go for it
Well when I click my threads it says forum permissions, then under that it says "You cannot start a new forum"
I'm not too worried, was just wondering lol.
But as an update to anyone that reads this. My house has been out of heat until the pilot light is fixed. It's been somewhat cold for about a week and a half. Temps have been about 60-65 degrees in the room I have my jars colonizing in. I was wondering that if this is only going to slow the growth only during the temperature drop, or will it slow the overall growth down? Thanks guys.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#18981340 - 10/15/13 01:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thell start colonising at regular speed when it get warmer
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: Cb411]
#19814447 - 04/08/14 06:37 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I know this is off topic. Took a few months break from this just started up my growing again. I spawned 4 BRF jars to some hpoo. And now it is colonizing, its been about a week and I peeked and I found "cobweb" substance on my sub. If anyone could tell me if this is the harmful "cobweb" substance Ive read about it I would appreciate it. I don't want to go spraying h2o2 on something that doesn't need it. Thanks everyone!




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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#19814601 - 04/08/14 07:05 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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dude you just posted 23 minutes ago...
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: bodhisatta]
#19814643 - 04/08/14 07:15 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm sorry. Just a little concerned. Do you have an answer though? I would appreciate anyone's advice.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#19814661 - 04/08/14 07:18 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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there's no cobweb but probably some bacteria.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: bodhisatta]
#19814693 - 04/08/14 07:25 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Are you looking at the dark spot near the bottom of the top picture? Yeah, it looks bad but that's just a shadow casting a dark color. If that's not what you're referring too, what exactly are you seeing as bacteria?
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#19814701 - 04/08/14 07:27 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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the whole thing and the mycelium jumping off the surface sort of looks like rhizo growth and sort of looks like aerial mycelium but to me it looks like a reaction to some bacteria.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: bodhisatta]
#19814747 - 04/08/14 07:33 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Any suggestions as to what to do about the bacteria? Anyway I can fight it off? Thank you for the information.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#19814774 - 04/08/14 07:37 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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just keep on keeping on there's nothing you can do about contamination if it's bacterial it will probably make 1-2 flushes if not more. if your contamination is mold it's always a toss out situation unless you have some small cobweb problem h2o2 could take care of but I've seen that like 2 times ever on someones grow out of lots of grows so you'll probably never ever see that.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: bodhisatta]
#19814810 - 04/08/14 07:42 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't believe its mold. I havent seen any other signs of contamination either, just wasnt sure if it was myc fluff or something else. Also, would you say this looks colonized enough to case it? the whole top of the area was seen in all of the pictures. I'm afraid the sides and bottom isn't colonized yet because I cant see due to black trash bag lining.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
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if the top is done the whole thing is done. mycelium grows in a sphere.
I don't see any mold, just what could be bacterial and maybe it isn't even bacterial but I think it is.
I wouldn't bother casing it for your first grow.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: bodhisatta]
#19814848 - 04/08/14 07:47 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why not case it? I've read people say they don't case and some say they do, but my friend that has gotten me into it is suggesting casing. It helps better pinset right? And keeps moisture at the right level? I've also heard that you'll yield more if you case. I was going to case with peat.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#19814867 - 04/08/14 07:50 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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The majority of people don't case cubes the vast majority, casing layers can help but I would only do them on tub I was 100% positive was 100% clean.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: bodhisatta]
#19814925 - 04/08/14 07:59 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I understand. Is there anyone else that would not recommend casing? Or are there others supporting the idea of casing? If so why or why not? All advice is appreciated
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#19814944 - 04/08/14 08:03 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I case everything now but I wouldn't case your tub.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
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I wouldn't bother casing it either. It's your first grow man. One step at a time. It will do just fine without casing. Mine do
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: Stromrider]
#19814998 - 04/08/14 08:12 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alright, I just keep reading that casing helps better pinset equaling better yields. But, since this is a new hobby, "one step at a time" comes to play. Thanks everyone! I'm doing a double tub shotgun fruiting chamber. I should remove aluminum foil and set the top tub on top and introduce to fruiting conditions? Should I mist the insides just once? Any other preparations I should take into consideration going from vegetation to fruiting stage?
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#19819188 - 04/09/14 04:27 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wait for casing to colonize or fruit right after colonizing? I personally think that I should incubate my colonizing casing, then introduce to light. Does anyone else have any other methods?
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
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you don't need to incubate room temperature is just fine unless room temp for you is under 65F Light is good during all stages of growth don't keep them in the dark.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: bodhisatta]
#19819631 - 04/09/14 05:50 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alright thanks a lot! A lot of people told me not to case. I made a mistake of not making sure my sub was even all the way across in my tub, which was going to make for bad pin setting in some areas. So I went ahead and cased in hopes of bettering the pinset.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#19820046 - 04/09/14 07:24 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Any estimate of how much I would yield from 4 BRF cakes spawned to hpoo, cased with 50/50 peat/verm? I know its hard to say because no one knows exactly how sterile I was or anything, but estimates, past experiences?
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#19820061 - 04/09/14 07:25 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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ounce and a half +
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cronicr]
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Well that would tickle me pink
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#19832152 - 04/12/14 10:46 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just recently started to see pins in my double tub so exciting! I have a question for anyone reading this, I have a SGFC in the form of a double tub. I've read that you only mist the sides of the tub once in a SGFC, but I was wondering if this is true? I'm worried they might lose water or something. Would it be okay if I misted every few days? Thanks everyone
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#19832316 - 04/12/14 11:37 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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no you mist your cakes as needed, by which i mean when the surface of your cakes has dried up, mist until it glistens,fan,repeat!
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cronicr]
#19832327 - 04/12/14 11:40 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I crumbled my cakes and spawned to hpoo, cased with peat. I just wasn't sure if I'm supposed to mist my sub or not. I know casing helps with humidity and all, but it's still worrying me a bit that they might dry
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#19832342 - 04/12/14 11:44 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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it should dry, right before you mist it
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cronicr]
#19832345 - 04/12/14 11:44 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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when you notice it start to dry up give it a squirt
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cronicr]
#19832402 - 04/12/14 11:56 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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What's the best way to determine if it's too dry or not? Sorry for the noob questions. Lol. There's still condensation on the walls of my tubs, if it starts to run dry would the sub pull the moisture from the tub? That would be an indicator that it was drying out possibly? I just don't want my little pins stunt. I cased 2 days ago, and I've read it takes anywhere from 10-14 days to fully mature and harvest. I think I might be okay waiting another 8 days?
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#19832412 - 04/12/14 11:58 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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your pins won't stunt, when the surface of your subs is covered in little beads of moisture it's fine, once those beads are gone or most of them it's time to mist
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cronicr]
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Alright thank you! I appreciate it. I'll post pics of the final product!
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cronicr]
#19833136 - 04/12/14 02:32 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Can I mist directly onto my casing with a few pins already? Or should I just mist the walls of my tub?
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
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misting the walls is pointless, yes you can mist your pins its fine with cubes
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cronicr]
#19833444 - 04/12/14 03:38 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I just wasn't sure that I could mist directly onto my casing and pins. So I figured I would put moisture somewhere so it could draw from if needed. Thank you a lot man I appreciate the help. I have a few pins that look like they will be giants, can't wait to see them at full maturity !
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#19848696 - 04/15/14 01:16 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just wanted to show everyone my progress so far. Thanks to everyone that has given me advice.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#22310791 - 09/29/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey guys sorry to post on an old thread, but for some reason I'm not able to make new posts. It says I can only reply to post's already made. Do I need permission from an operator on here?
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#22311242 - 09/29/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Coconut coir at petco, and long grain rice in small jars, honey as first substrate, pull and put in long grain substrate, break up coconut coir in monotube, throw in. Then turn yourselves in
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: ThePolice]
#22311258 - 09/29/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: ThePolice]
#22311369 - 09/29/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ThePolice said: Coconut coir at petco, and long grain rice in small jars, honey as first substrate, pull and put in long grain substrate, break up coconut coir in monotube, throw in. Then turn yourselves in
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: jbaby007]
#22311638 - 09/29/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So I've been having troubles with FAE. Fuzzy feet tells me this. I also have pretty small fruits for some reason. My sub is at least 3" thick and I can't get them to get any bigger.

Another picture. I think they are maturing so early because the environment isn't good for them, but I'm not sure what to do

And ideas?
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#22311651 - 09/29/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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This is a picture of another tub about a week earlier. Same specs
 They got huge overnight after I put them closer to my window for better lighting
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#22313173 - 09/30/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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See how they're starting to mature and break veils? Why is this happening when they're too small? I know I have low FAE. I've adjusted all holes to where the polyfil is basically hanging out. I'm sure humidity is okay because I mist quite often.

I just wanna save my tubs!!! Haha
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#22313227 - 09/30/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Those actually look normal and great...you aren't loosening the bottom holes are you?
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: LocN9ne]
#22313646 - 09/30/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes I have been. I've had extreme fuzzy feet on 4 of my tubs so I figured I should increase FAE?
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: LocN9ne]
#22313927 - 09/30/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can I just tape up all holes and fan manually? I can't dial in on tubs. Or maybe I don't understand any of this. Kind of frustrated in a sense. I've seen tubs flush wonders and mine just....aren't. I'm sure it's because of FAE. I have fuzzy feet telling me this. And my fruits are starting to break veils when they're not even an inch big. I read somewhere that they do that so they can drop spores because they're dying. I have a 3" sub and was expecting some monsters. It's only MS but still. Idk
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#22313937 - 09/30/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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to fan enough to equal what FAE is, you would need to fan more than 6 times an hour for an average monotub setup.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
#22313997 - 09/30/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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What substrate are you using? Your monotub filler substrate looks dense, maybe hard for the mycelium to break through to eat perhaps. The ones coming through look healthy though. Be careful over-misting your monotub.
Now I'm going to need to see some picture identification, preferably with your face next to your grow for me to truly help you
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: bodhisatta]
#22314013 - 09/30/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fanning too regularly can sometimes bring in more outsiders than you want in your tub, open seldomly, the polyfil lets it breath more than most are aware. Unless you are stuffing it tough.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: ThePolice]
#22314024 - 09/30/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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ThePolice said: Fanning too regularly can sometimes bring in more outsiders than you want in your tub, open seldomly, the polyfil lets it breath more than most are aware. Unless you are stuffing it tough.
doesn't fucking matter it's already been exposed during spawning, leaving the lid off while you're home is a great idea
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: ThePolice]
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ThePolice said: the polyfil lets it breath more than most are aware. Unless you are stuffing it tough.
You're supposed to stuff the bottom holes tightly, that's how humidity is retained inside the tub, to support the right environment for pin formation.
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doesn't fucking matter it's already been exposed during spawning, leaving the lid off while you're home is a great idea
What's been exposed?
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Psilosoulful said: You're supposed to stuff the bottom holes tightly, that's how humidity is retained inside the tub, to support the right environment for pin formation.
Yes I know this, but my top holes barely have any polyfil in them, it should provide enough air to flow freely in...but my fruits tell me otherwise with fuzzy feet. I started to aim my fan closer and closer to the tubs, making sure to not dry the substrate out, but the fuzz continues to grow. I only figured I could loosen bottom holes because I need more FAE and I'm sure my tubs are pretty humid, I have been misting a lot more since I loosened the polyfil.
Should I say screw the polyfil and tape up with micropore tape to retain humidity or keep loose holes for FAE? I believe FAE is more important in my case. If not, what can I do?
Thanks everyone.
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
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cwats0n72 said: Should I say screw the polyfil and tape up with micropore tape to retain humidity or keep loose holes for FAE? I believe FAE is more important in my case. If not, what can I do
Dial in the top holes correctly via Frank's tek. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17332777/fpart/all/vc/1
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: bodhisatta]
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I'm going to need your name and address in order to see if your tek is better than mine
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Im not sure what's going on with my tubs or how to dial in on them. I have followed Frank's tek specifically, but my fruits having fuzzy feet just tell me there's not enough FAE. Also some of my matured fruits have cracks, meaning low humidity right? Idk just going with my gut feeling.
On the bright side, it's like my fruits made a last attempt to get as big as they could while I was at work, came home to pick this Shiva cluster haha!
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
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Hey everyone how are we doing?? I woke up this morning to this great canopy.

These are Mazatapec's on grains. Spawned to a 50/50 of hpoo/straw cased with peat in a dub tub style FC.
This is by far my best tub I've ever done, small sub and small fruits but the pinset was perfect. I got my canopy of little shroomies I've always wanted I'm dunking right now for about an hour to an hour and a half. Don't want to water log it. During my harvesting I created a lot of craters. These suckers were rooted deep! Should I patch with new casing to even it back out? Will the sub focus its energy on trying to recolonize to the new casing instead of pinning again or should I just leave it as is? I dont want to invite contams..but wondering if I could get by. Any help/tips would be appreciated!!
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: bodhisatta]
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I think you would be better off searching the forum for each separate question you've asked there buddy. You'll get yr answers and learn in the process...not being a dick but that would prob be better for you than getting drip fed  
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cwats0n72 said: I happened to come across a big bag of vermiculite at work last night. I wasn't sure if this is what can be used in my process. If so I was going to take a few scoops. Is there anyway I could store this properly? This is what it looks like

Ouch... That's specialty verm. I only use regular verm.  That stuff will work fine. I would store it in.. The bag it came in.
Did you still have a question?
Hahaha haven’t logged on in over 3 years. I had a few laughs reading my younger self. But still, 5 years later I cannot start a new post lol.
On another note I’m just starting up again and found some of Bod’s Teks and am super excited to give it a go.
Spawning 4 Qts of rye to 4 lbs of Hpoo in a 27 qt tub. Substrate was around 4 and a half inches when made up. I’m still hiding it under a blanket for about a week then introducing to fruiting. Thanks for all the write ups!
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Re: First grow. Tips apprecited [Re: cwats0n72]
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Hmm? Anyone know how I can get around this.
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