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first grow, tips would be great
    #18813840 - 09/08/13 02:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So this is my first grow, just wanted some advice or tips. I used 6 brf cakes nocced up with b+, fully colonized after 16 days then into the fruiting chamber, im using a sg chamber, its been 5 days and they look to be getting fluffy but no signs of pinning, humidity stays betweem 95-99%



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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: ballzdeep]
    #18813900 - 09/08/13 02:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

looks nice for now.
try next time bulk tek much more fruits and much less pain in the ass.
B+ is definitely good for beginners but mellow and weak in potency.

expect pins in 4-10 days from now.

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Been cautious man, I though I would start with a smallest, smallest quantity. Namely I started with 0.25mg.....and my intention was to increase dosage to see if something will happened.
That very small dosage, the first dose of my experiments i planed, was very very strong.


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: Hofmann1943]
    #18813924 - 09/08/13 02:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I also have some blue meanies colonizing, what are your thoughts on them? Cheers:smirk:


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: ballzdeep]
    #18813937 - 09/08/13 03:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Need to fan more. A lot more, the #1 pin trigger is FAE, and your holes look a little spread out to me.


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: Sockadin]
    #18813991 - 09/08/13 03:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i agree with Sockadin . blue thing are bruising be a little more gentle with that ladies :grin: nothing to worry about.


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Been cautious man, I though I would start with a smallest, smallest quantity. Namely I started with 0.25mg.....and my intention was to increase dosage to see if something will happened.
That very small dosage, the first dose of my experiments i planed, was very very strong.


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: Hofmann1943]
    #18814085 - 09/08/13 05:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You say "fully colonized after 16 days then into the fruiting chamber"

Did you give them a full week to consolidate in the jars once they were fully colonized before birthing?


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: hankstymcbankerson]
    #18814176 - 09/08/13 07:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

How often are you fanning?


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: ballzdeep]
    #18814229 - 09/08/13 07:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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B+ is definitely good for beginners but mellow and weak in potency.




:facepalm:

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I also have some blue meanies colonizing, what are your thoughts on them? Cheers:smirk:





You both need to read the third post in this thread. I would copy and paste the post but it is very long and will take up a lot of space on the ops thread. Hope this clears up some of this silly strain talk :smile:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14525669


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: Hofmann1943]
    #18814393 - 09/08/13 09:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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B+ is definitely good for beginners but mellow and weak in potency.





Hmm I've had B+ that sent me to space and some that were meh luck of the draw with multi spore syringe. Same is true for ALL the "strains" I have grown from MS. And on top of that they're all the EXACT same to grow.


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18814434 - 09/08/13 09:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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B+ is definitely good for beginners but mellow and weak in potency.





Hmm I've had B+ that sent me to space and some that were meh luck of the draw with multi spore syringe. Same is true for ALL the "strains" I have grown from MS. And on top of that they're all the EXACT same to grow.




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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: Stromrider]
    #18815001 - 09/08/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I grow from isolates.
It is the same to say every wine is the same it kick you in the head and you are drunk.
Sorry but i could not say that.

Eat 3g of PESA and 3g of B+ its like your head and your ass, they are parts of the same body but don't tell me you don't know or see the difference :wink:

not only that i talk about potency i talk about growing.
Here is a example 
PESH need much more FAE, and won't pin at all if you don't give here that FAE
On the other side Vietnam pin and grow in the jar with closed lid with filter.


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Been cautious man, I though I would start with a smallest, smallest quantity. Namely I started with 0.25mg.....and my intention was to increase dosage to see if something will happened.
That very small dosage, the first dose of my experiments i planed, was very very strong.


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: ballzdeep]
    #18815508 - 09/08/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You should try B- it is 13 times stronger than an average cube and 9.5 times stronger than Afghanistan super strain which is by 3.2% the next strongest :thumbup:


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: Skinty]
    #18815657 - 09/08/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for clearing us up on that skinty


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: Stromrider]
    #18815664 - 09/08/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Thanks for clearing us up on that skinty




Don't take those figures too seriously they are complete fabrications and involve almost exclusive guesswork except on those occasions where what I have said is actually, truth be told, an outrageous lie.

Probably still fairly accurate though - figures is figures right??

:cookiemonster:


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: Skinty]
    #18815666 - 09/08/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You should try B- it is 13 times stronger than an average cube and 9.5 times stronger than Afghanistan super strain which is by 3.2% the next strongest :thumbup:





like whaat?? :llamastare:


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: TheStormsEye]
    #18815672 - 09/08/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You should try B- it is 13 times stronger than an average cube and 9.5 times stronger than Afghanistan super strain which is by 3.2% the next strongest :thumbup:





like whaat?? :llamastare:




Read the figures and weep n00pty :shrug:


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: Skinty]
    #18815686 - 09/08/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

figures :thumbup:


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: Stromrider]
    #18815699 - 09/08/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry those figures were inaccurate this was the figure I meant to post:



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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: Skinty]
    #18815713 - 09/08/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Sorry those figures were inaccurate this was the figure I meant to post:







Much better  :bigyesnod:


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: Skinty]
    #18815725 - 09/08/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Sorry those figures were inaccurate this was the figure I meant to post:






I would inoculate that first, then make a transfer to her mouth :wink:


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #18815731 - 09/08/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Sorry those figures were inaccurate this was the figure I meant to post:






I would inoculate that first, then make a transfer to her mouth :wink:




How long do you think it would take to fully colonise her? :thumbup:


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: hankstymcbankerson]
    #18815784 - 09/08/13 04:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You say "fully colonized after 16 days then into the fruiting chamber"

Did you give them a full week to consolidate in the jars once they were fully colonized before birthing?




Agreed. When you see that they're fully colonised, wait another 7 days. You may even see them pinning in the jars. Patience at this stage pays off.


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: Skinty]
    #18816026 - 09/08/13 05:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Sorry those figures were inaccurate this was the figure I meant to post:






I would inoculate that first, then make a transfer to her mouth :wink:




How long do you think it would take to fully colonise her? :thumbup:




I'd probably blow a whole syringe in her, but even with a shake, it would probably still take a full 9 months  :lmafo:


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: Skinty]
    #18816240 - 09/08/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: Hofmann1943]
    #18818671 - 09/09/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I grow from isolates.
It is the same to say every wine is the same it kick you in the head and you are drunk.
Sorry but i could not say that.

Eat 3g of PESA and 3g of B+ its like your head and your ass, they are parts of the same body but don't tell me you don't know or see the difference :wink:

not only that i talk about potency i talk about growing.
Here is a example 
PESH need much more FAE, and won't pin at all if you don't give here that FAE
On the other side Vietnam pin and grow in the jar with closed lid with filter.




This is due to your isolates. You can get B+ isolates that require lots of FAE to pin and isolates that are good at in-vitro pinning.


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18819196 - 09/09/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks hombres. I didn't actually give it a week to consolidate :frown: it being my first grow my inpatients got the better of me. Btw I've been browsing through threads on bulk trek, can anyone give me a link for a good method to try as a beginner?


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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: ballzdeep]
    #18819247 - 09/09/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: first grow, tips would be great [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18819530 - 09/09/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Hofmann1943 said:
I grow from isolates.
It is the same to say every wine is the same it kick you in the head and you are drunk.
Sorry but i could not say that.

Eat 3g of PESA and 3g of B+ its like your head and your ass, they are parts of the same body but don't tell me you don't know or see the difference :wink:

not only that i talk about potency i talk about growing.
Here is a example 
PESH need much more FAE, and won't pin at all if you don't give here that FAE
On the other side Vietnam pin and grow in the jar with closed lid with filter.




This is due to your isolates. You can get B+ isolates that require lots of FAE to pin and isolates that are good at in-vitro pinning.




Thanks for info but i already know that, that is why i never make one isolate but 3-4 at least. I notice that the potency never changed only different conditions they requested when fruiting from different isolates. I also notice that outdoor cubes are 2x stronger than indoor, afterwards some of the local mycologist told me Psilocybin is the product of their immunity it make sense.


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That very small dosage, the first dose of my experiments i planed, was very very strong.


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