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OfflineGazzBut
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Question For the christians..
    #1880457 - 09/04/03 06:23 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Do any of the christians who come to this site believe that the christian god is the one true god and that anyone following any of the other religous systems in the world have basically got it wrong? If so do they believe that this mistake can in some way have negative consequences for those who make it?

Just curious...


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Offlinegnrm23
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Re: Question For the christians.. [Re: GazzBut]
    #1880614 - 09/04/03 08:49 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

i am sure that there are some who would consider themselves christian fundamentalists here (not many, tho, hmmmm?)


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OfflineMindTrap
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Re: Question For the christians.. [Re: gnrm23]
    #1880617 - 09/04/03 08:53 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I doubt a fervent Christian would be hanging out on a site associated with mind altering drugs. But, ya never know.

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Re: Question For the christians.. [Re: MindTrap]
    #1880642 - 09/04/03 09:07 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Only unfervent Christians here...


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OfflineMindTrap
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Re: Question For the christians.. [Re: Swami]
    #1880676 - 09/04/03 09:22 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Plenty of fervent atheists though I might add.

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Re: Question For the christians.. [Re: MindTrap]
    #1880808 - 09/04/03 10:16 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

... and some agnostics too.

MAIA


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Re: Question For the christians.. [Re: MAIA]
    #1880833 - 09/04/03 10:30 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

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MAIA said:
... and some agnostics too.




Indeed.

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Re: Question For the christians.. [Re: ekomstop]
    #1880992 - 09/04/03 11:46 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, I am a fervent Christian, although I'm not a fundamentalist. Some of the things that so-called "Christians" have done disgusts me, and let's leave it at that. I believe that God gave us mind-altering plants for a purpose, but not to abuse for our simple pleasures. I also believe that there is only one God, who sent Christ to die for OUR sins. I'm not going to try to force my beliefs on anybody, though if someone would like to know more feel free to pm me.


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Re: Question For the christians.. [Re: GazzBut]
    #1881016 - 09/04/03 11:55 AM (20 years, 7 months ago)

"If so do they believe that this mistake can in some way have negative consequences for those who make it?"

If you knew anything about Christianity, you'd know the answer to that question: They go to hell.

I'm a fervent agnostic. I think that anyone who believes they can answer the question of whether or not there's a god is a fool or a liar.


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Re: Question For the christians.. [Re: GazzBut]
    #1881251 - 09/04/03 01:19 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I was trying to argue that God is universal to this Christian girl that I work with. I was trying to say that a good Hindu is better than a bad Christian. She thinks that because Jesus said "I am the way" that even Gandhi is going to hell. If he's there I want to go with him. I think that they all are just different paradigms for interacting with the divine.


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OfflineJhadAgainstReality
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Re: Question For the christians.. [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #1881359 - 09/04/03 01:53 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

not to be a dick, but saying you'd want to go to hell with gandhi is probably the stupidest statement i've heard all day. ok assuming hell exists (i think it does but im presuming most of you dont) why on earth would you want to go there? so you can shoot the shit with gandhi? come on, if it does exist, its not exactly going to be a country club where you, ghandi, and the dalai lama all sit around and listen to phish or whatever.


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OfflineJhadAgainstReality
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Re: Question For the christians.. [Re: JhadAgainstReality]
    #1881366 - 09/04/03 01:56 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

oh and in response to the thread's question... i think after death, God gives everybody one last chance to accept Jesus as the only way to heaven, and if not, yea they probably go to hell or whatever. and some people are so damn dense they still probably wouldn't. just my opinion.


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Re: Question For the christians.. [Re: JhadAgainstReality]
    #1881371 - 09/04/03 01:56 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

JhadAgainstReality said:
not to be a dick, but saying you'd want to go to hell with gandhi is probably the stupidest statement i've heard all day. ok assuming hell exists (i think it does but im presuming most of you dont) why on earth would you want to go there? so you can shoot the shit with gandhi? come on, if it does exist, its not exactly going to be a country club where you, ghandi, and the dalai lama all sit around and listen to phish or whatever.




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Re: Question For the christians.. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #1881387 - 09/04/03 02:01 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

come again?


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Re: Question For the christians.. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #1881414 - 09/04/03 02:13 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

mmm.. crack.


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Re: Question For the christians.. [Re: JhadAgainstReality]
    #1881424 - 09/04/03 02:17 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

i think after death, God gives everybody one last chance to accept Jesus as the only way to heaven, and if not, yea they probably go to hell or whatever.
So God created someone to be born in India and indoctrinated into Hinduism, then would punish them for all eternity for believing their parents and culture? How merciful and loving!

... and some people are so damn dense they still probably wouldn't.
Maybe God will give you one last chance to accept Krishna right after death, but you will be too dense to accept it and will blow your ticket to eternity...


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OfflineJhadAgainstReality
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Re: Question For the christians.. [Re: Swami]
    #1881453 - 09/04/03 02:27 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

if i was a Hindu all my life, having been raised in a hindu environment, and then died only to see the Christian God before me saying he was the right way to heaven, i think i might have to seriously reevaluate my faith. Or if it was the other way around, and i died and saw krishna, perhaps i would have to reevaluate my beliefs too.
im not saying i have all the answers to all the questions, but gazzbut asked a question and i gave him my opinion. in all honesty i'm not any good at all when it comes to defending my beliefs


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Re: Question For the christians.. [Re: mr_minds_eye]
    #1881660 - 09/04/03 03:43 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

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mr_minds_eye said:
I was trying to say that a good Hindu is better than a bad Christian.





Well then that "Christian" must not really be one. Being a Christian is such a widely abused term. Many people think that going to church makes them a Christian, instead of a personal relationship with Christ. It's the bad "Christians" who make the real Christians look bad.


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Re: Question For the christians.. [Re: Funguy]
    #1881716 - 09/04/03 04:02 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Funguy, as a christian how would you answer the original questions I posed?


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Re: Question For the christians.. [Re: JhadAgainstReality]
    #1881727 - 09/04/03 04:05 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

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in all honesty i'm not any good at all when it comes to defending my beliefs






Not being rude here but if you cant defend your beleifs might it not be a good idea to have a serious reevaluation of them?


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