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The Doobie Dude


Registered: 04/28/13
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How can this guy not trip?
#18813375 - 09/07/13 10:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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So I dosed 15 people up on 2 hits of good L like 1 had me tripping 2 was intense and everyone agreed. This inexperienced kid trying L for the first time takes 2 he is on no medicine and said he felt absolutely shit. Is he just bullshitting? Help shroomery I'm lost?
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Blazer420
ŦøжїϿ ÐȐȜȧƜƐȓ


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Sometimes people don't get high on their first experiences with drugs.. Sucks for them Lol.
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Edited by Blazer420 (09/07/13 11:07 PM)
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pureenergy13
fitting right in there


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Re: How can this guy not trip? [Re: Blazer420]
#18813439 - 09/07/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you have no frame of reference for the experience, (ie, your first time), then I could see it happening. My first time, I just didn't realize I was tripping until 2 hours in because it was great acid. But I've heard of others who didn't trip the first time, or even the first 2 or 3 times.
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SomeGuyX
The Ganja Mahn



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That would suck... Never been a problem for me
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Ace1928
Experimenter



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Re: How can this guy not trip? [Re: SomeGuyX]
#18813514 - 09/07/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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He doesn't happen to be on any kind of anti depressants does he? I knew a guy who was on SSRI's and it took him 2 - 3 times what everyone else needed to get similar effects on shrooms, LSD, mescaline etc.
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Blazer420
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Re: How can this guy not trip? [Re: Ace1928]
#18813706 - 09/08/13 01:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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OP stated that his friend was not on any medication ^^^
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my3rdeye



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Re: How can this guy not trip? [Re: Blazer420]
#18813741 - 09/08/13 01:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Could be a hard head. Some people can't trip, they are rare though.
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Ace1928
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Re: How can this guy not trip? [Re: Blazer420]
#18813907 - 09/08/13 02:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Blazer420 said: OP stated that his friend was not on any medication ^^^
Woops. My bad.
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excalibur127
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Registered: 09/01/13
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Re: How can this guy not trip? [Re: Ace1928]
#18814000 - 09/08/13 03:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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OP, just to clarify, was he inexperienced with any substance or only with acid? He may have some cross-tolerance from something else.
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The Doobie Dude


Registered: 04/28/13
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He's done shrooms (an 8th) twice and tripped but that was 1 month before hand
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paulhogandog
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a) he is one of these rare freaks of nature who don't trip (especially unlikely if he tripped on shrooms) b) he is one of those people who don't get effected by drugs first time around (personally i think this is a myth perpetuated because people getting high just don't recognise what they're feeling at first) c) he did trip but hid it from you for some reason (unlikely and hard to do) d) his tolerance was already up from something else, but he denied it (in the hopes it wouldn't be an issue, and because free lsd) e) he has started on ssris or other meds and doesn't want anyone to know. seems most likely to me.
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BIGS
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Had the same thing happen with a friend last week. Gave him some good L prior to this last trip and he said he didnt feel much, this time i gave him another tab back to back within an hour apart cuz, 2 was to much for some people, they said they where shooting to a ++++ and didnt want to baby sit, and still he felt something more then last but not what 2 should have done.
Ive come to the conclusion, if you want to trip you will, but some people fight the experience and the trip can be ruined or not even truly happen. Some people dont have magical trips, it truly all depends on the person.
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excalibur127
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Re: How can this guy not trip? [Re: BIGS]
#18814420 - 09/08/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I say, look for the simplest answer. We know he is able to trip, so that leaves us to conclude something prevented him from tripping. It can't be meds because we know he tripped before. Either too high tolerance from something recent or that blotter wasn't potent.
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Into The Woods
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Registered: 04/20/13
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The first time I dosed, it was with six grams of pan cyans and didn't feel a thing. I waited all night not knowing what to expect. Nada. (Probably for the best, though, that was a hefty dose for a first timer.) Second attempt went beautifully, I experienced my first trip on half that amount.
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paulhogandog said: b) he is one of those people who don't get effected by drugs first time around (personally i think this is a myth perpetuated because people getting high just don't recognise what they're feeling at first)
So don't rule this out, it is possible. It's seems unlikely for most folk, but it can happen. It's beyond me as to why though.
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paulhogandog
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i dunno. even shrooms from the same batch can be duds. far less likely with a sheet of acid where people are tripping balls off the other tabs. i'm not saying anyone claiming not to have been affected by a drug first time round is a bare faced liar, but i think perception plays a big part.
i've heard about it supposedly happening a lot online. i've had two occasions where it's "happened" to someone i know.
first one the guy insisted on taking my last half tab even though i told him it wouldn't do very much, and then spent the rest of the night busting my balls because he wasn't feeling any effects at all. he texted me the next morning saying that when he was alone with no one to talk to he realised he actually was tripping.
the other was a guy who kept asking me for bongs and then literally told me he felt nothing while giggling his ass off with the most bloodshot eyes i've ever seen. i think a lot of it has to do with perception.
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Lord_McLovin
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Stanislaw Grof talks about this in his first book. He says that those people are very neurotic and can resist the trip because they have accumulated a load of resistance in their daily life to sustain. He also listed an example: Some guy who had never tripped before was given 500 mics of acid and didn't feel shit. After 2 to 3 hours he was so bored that he asked to go to his room and make a sandwich. He did all of that and after he got back the therapy session was cancelled as there were "no effects".
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rikuni

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can happen with people pretty new to psychedelics. I needed a bit more than usual too..
Also this is true..
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Stanislaw Grof talks about this in his first book. He says that those people are very neurotic and can resist the trip because they have accumulated a load of resistance in their daily life to sustain. He also listed an example: Some guy who had never tripped before was given 500 mics of acid and didn't feel shit. After 2 to 3 hours he was so bored that he asked to go to his room and make a sandwich. He did all of that and after he got back the therapy session was cancelled as there were "no effects".
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