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brianstequila
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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18759053 - 08/26/13 09:55 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have a waring pro and I crank it on high for cracker dry in about 6 hours with no bad side effects. They are as potent as they were when I did them on low for 24 hours.
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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18760077 - 08/26/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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phosi said: Forgot to mention. Im using a Nesco and were loaded on the top tray. I really have a feeling it was due to instant over heating.
I use a nesco and load all the trays. It's not causing any discoloration.
Mushrooms that press directly against the top of the unit (the heater) might show a little bit of shininess where the directly touched it, but never any real discoloration that would be an issue.
Actually I use four of the Nescos with 24 racks between them 
24 racks on each,  ? Did you just buy extra racks or did they come with them?
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: PhosCap]
#18760128 - 08/26/13 03:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've had a few of the head units break on me.
So I ended up with extra racks
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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18760213 - 08/26/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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...but yes, you can buy extra racks.
I found some mislabeled at bed bath and beyond. Got packs of 2 for 7.99
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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: SpitballJedi]
#18810469 - 09/07/13 04:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I am hearing people getting cracker dry in 6 hours, 12, hours, 24 hours, and even after adjusting to max 165 degree heat, I'm simply not getting anywhere close to these results. I am using a Nesco with 4 racks, packed fairly dense (no overlap at all, though). How many racks/under what conditions are people achieving wet to cracker dry in 12 hours?
Like I said, I live in a VERY humid climate, often times 90% humidity, but I'm not really sure if this is the culprit or not.
Please help.
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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Insomnia411]
#18810472 - 09/07/13 04:24 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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If the nesco is packed full, it should take 12-24 hours at 165F to get them cracker dry, depending on how thick and dense the fruits are.
I like to cut the fat ones in half long ways to help them dry faster.
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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: PussyFart]
#18810478 - 09/07/13 04:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Currently it's taking like 2-3 days. I cut some of them (maybe like 30-40%) in half or at least cut open the bottom thicker part of the stem. I also have a few that I cut totally in half that simply have no change in moisture; like I'm checking and comparing again after 8-10 hours and there is almost no change, I can still take them and bend them, still totally flexible. These unchanged shrooms in particular (maybe like 10% of them) are turning a light brown too.
And I am positive the dehydrator is working, if I touch the side it nearly burns my hand.
EDIT: and the ones taking 3 days I am finding the insides of a few are turning black. The outsides look perfectly fine, but when I split them open it's almost totally black inside.
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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Insomnia411]
#18810483 - 09/07/13 04:31 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Try using a dehumidifier in the same room at the same time?
I don't know, but 90% humidity is hurting you....I can tell already...
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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: PussyFart]
#18810842 - 09/07/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Would it be a good idea to put the dehydrator in a plywood box so the humidity drops fast instead of having to battle the 90% humidity in the whole room?
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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: invitro]
#18810917 - 09/07/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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You're going to have a tough time getting them cracker dry if you live in a humid region.
Use the most heat your dehydrator can muster. Finish them with some desiccant.
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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18810967 - 09/07/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sun dry them if possible, a parked car in the sun works great in humid regions, and saves tons of energy!
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: open-minded]
#18810983 - 09/07/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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open-minded said: Sun dry them if possible, a parked car in the sun works great in humid regions, and saves tons of energy!

Except when it is humid, they aren't going to get dry...
Nice first post. Welcome to the shroomery.
Do you really dry your illegal mushrooms in a parked car in the sun?
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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Insomnia411]
#18811021 - 09/07/13 09:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Insomnia411 said: VERY humid climate
This is your culprit.
You are basically trying to make a bunch of moisture absorbing sticks, as soon as their content is below atmosphere they start pulling it back in. I've seen cracker dry shrooms double their dry weight in absorbed moisture when left out in a humid environment. The extreme darkness on the inside is bruising reaction from where this rehydration is affecting burst cells.
Build a desiccant box and make sure to tape it shut, the desiccant will pull the inside humidity down to zero and dry your shrooms.
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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: StygianKnight]
#18811032 - 09/07/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Putting damprid in teabags is great for storage.if your shrooms were 80% dry you would only need a couple of these but if there not almost dry and still wet you might need like an inch or so deep in the container.
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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18811099 - 09/07/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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FrankHorrigan said:
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open-minded said: Sun dry them if possible, a parked car in the sun works great in humid regions, and saves tons of energy!

Except when it is humid, they aren't going to get dry...
Nice first post. Welcome to the shroomery.
Do you really dry your illegal mushrooms in a parked car in the sun?
Actually Frank, I lived in a tropical rainforest for a couple of years where the humidity is one of the highest on the planet, what he is saying does work very well, I know from experience. Not that I would recommend it, a friend told me about it so I thought I would try it out just because.
Edited by invitro (09/07/13 10:33 AM)
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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Insomnia411]
#18811131 - 09/07/13 10:40 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Could be something wrong with your dehydrator.
I live in the southeast USA were it's humid. I can stuff my nesco with 6 trays and be cracker dry in less than 36 hours for sure. Usually less than 24 depending on how stuffed and how dense the fruits.
Turn it on while empty and see if you feel any heat coming off of it. There should be fan blown heat.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: invitro]
#18811139 - 09/07/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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invitro said: Actually Frank, I lived in a tropical rainforest for a couple of years where the humidity is one of the highest on the planet, what he is saying does work very well, I know from experience. Not that I would recommend it, a friend told me about it so I thought I would try it out just because.
You might as well just use your oven then, it's basically the same effect. Heated area, little air movement
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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: SpitballJedi]
#18811152 - 09/07/13 10:50 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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SpitballJedi said: Could be something wrong with your dehydrator.
I live in the southeast USA were it's humid. I can stuff my nesco with 6 trays and be cracker dry in less than 36 hours for sure. Usually less than 24 depending on how stuffed and how dense the fruits.
Turn it on while empty and see if you feel any heat coming off of it. There should be fan blown heat.
I agree. It has been very humid and rainy here in NC this summer and I have had no trouble drying mushies in my dehydrator. I run my dehydrator in my damp basement sometimes because my wife fusses about the smell. Even in the basement they are cracker dry in 12 hours. Drying at 160 degrees btw.
Make sure your fan and heating element is working properly. Some dehydrators have a little filter. If it does then clean it.
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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: Stromrider]
#18811288 - 09/07/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'll third that, it's not that humid where I am, however I'll dehydrate them in my kitchen, often when cooking, so the ambient humidity is certainly up there and I've never had it take longer than 24hrs.
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Re: Dying shrooms, stuck at ~80-90% - will desiccant get it to 100% dry? [Re: StygianKnight]
#18811622 - 09/07/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes, I am positive the dehydrator is working, like I said touching it nearly burns me. I have checked this several times just to be sure.
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StygianKnight said:
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Insomnia411 said: VERY humid climate
This is your culprit.
You are basically trying to make a bunch of moisture absorbing sticks, as soon as their content is below atmosphere they start pulling it back in. I've seen cracker dry shrooms double their dry weight in absorbed moisture when left out in a humid environment. The extreme darkness on the inside is bruising reaction from where this rehydration is affecting burst cells.
Build a desiccant box and make sure to tape it shut, the desiccant will pull the inside humidity down to zero and dry your shrooms.
So are these internally bruised mushrooms still ok to eat? Does this cause a loss of potency?
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