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Enigma1
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Should I take a lower dose since it's extraction?
#18810872 - 09/07/13 09:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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It still months away to my first Psychedelic Experience I am pumping my head with knowledge and priming my mind for the experience ahead of time. My lab supplies are in the mail now. Anyway I decided I will be going with extract so should I lower my first dose to the equivalent of 1.5g since it's going to be extract because I was going to start with 2g of dried?
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TwinEclipse
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Re: Should I take a lower dose since it's extraction? [Re: Enigma1]
#18810938 - 09/07/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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What method are you using to extract?
Never tried mushroom extracts 2 grams does the job well enough on their own IMO
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Enigma1
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Re: Should I take a lower dose since it's extraction? [Re: TwinEclipse]
#18810969 - 09/07/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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TwinEclipse said: What method are you using to extract?
Never tried mushroom extracts 2 grams does the job well enough on their own IMO
Grain alcohol I am trying to avoid nausea .
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Re: Should I take a lower dose since it's extraction? [Re: Enigma1]
#18810996 - 09/07/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Personally I have never had nausea on mushrooms and neither has anyone I know. It's not really that much of a problem, especially at a low dose like that. Unless you have a history of nausea?
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Enigma1
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Re: Should I take a lower dose since it's extraction? [Re: PocketLady]
#18811135 - 09/07/13 10:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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PocketLady said: Personally I have never had nausea on mushrooms and neither has anyone I know. It's not really that much of a problem, especially at a low dose like that. Unless you have a history of nausea?
Everyone tells me you get nausea at first and then it go away.
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Re: Should I take a lower dose since it's extraction? [Re: Enigma1]
#18811191 - 09/07/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its nothing unbearable and only really noticible to me on 5 + grams but i never throw up. Try eating some ginger first or use lemon ten with a little bit of ginger
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PocketLady



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Re: Should I take a lower dose since it's extraction? [Re: allseeingike]
#18811238 - 09/07/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Seriously in my experience it's nothing to worry about at all, and not worth doing an extraction for. But in answer to your question, I'm pretty sure you are likely to lose something in the extraction process, so 2g of dried mushrooms is likely to be stronger than the equivalent of 2g extracted.
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Re: Should I take a lower dose since it's extraction? [Re: allseeingike]
#18811250 - 09/07/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree with PocketLady. Chop it up and put it in a peanut butter sandwich if you have nausea problems. The only person I've ever seen struggle with eating shrooms is because he psyched himself out and wouldn't give up the idea that they tasted like feet.
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Enigma1
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Re: Should I take a lower dose since it's extraction? [Re: DeeBee]
#18812958 - 09/07/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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PocketLady said: Seriously in my experience it's nothing to worry about at all, and not worth doing an extraction for. But in answer to your question, I'm pretty sure you are likely to lose something in the extraction process, so 2g of dried mushrooms is likely to be stronger than the equivalent of 2g extracted.
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DeeBee said: I agree with PocketLady. Chop it up and put it in a peanut butter sandwich if you have nausea problems. The only person I've ever seen struggle with eating shrooms is because he psyched himself out and wouldn't give up the idea that they tasted like feet.
I'm the kind of person that can put benefit before taste so will taking it with lemon juice or peanut butter help the absorption. Or just chug it down straight with water?
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Re: Should I take a lower dose since it's extraction? [Re: DeeBee]
#18812971 - 09/07/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ime the nausea is almost entirely mental. The only times I've had any actual physical nausea (and it's been years now) is why strait eating dried shrooms on an empty stomach. If you eat it with a bit of food it allows your stomach to digest it better and you really shouldn't have an issue. If you do still want to extract it I'd recommend just making a tea. You can boil the water or do it around ~90c and you shouldn't lose any significant amount of alkaloids, alcohol will not do any noticably better of a job than simple water, and it will taste much better. I've never noticed a loss in potency over strait eating them, the effects are more consistent (less wavy/variable) and from what I've heard multiple times it should pull 90%+ of the actives out in the solution. You can then do a second extraction if you want to get the remainder or just eat them, once they're wet they're a little gummy, but more palatable and by hydrating them it will further aid in your stomach breaking them down. Normally I'll make tea and then toss the strained left overs in a meal of some sort as I often like to eat before a trip anyway.
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Re: Should I take a lower dose since it's extraction? [Re: krypto2000]
#18813170 - 09/07/13 09:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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With the lemon ten the taste is gone and the mushrooms hit way stronger and last a bit shorter. I always do lemon tek
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