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a new project of mine
    #18810779 - 09/07/13 08:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

hihi! :sun:

so I recently began working with my Higher Self (something I didn't particularly believe in until it started contacting me) on presenting spiritual healings for people. I've been receiving healings from healers for quite a while now and have noticed great benefits, but I didn't know until recently that my Higher Self is capable of these healings too.

so with the guidance from this part of my being, I've set up a healing centre online here: www.lotusgateway.com I offer free introductory healings to anyone who's interested with no strings attached. after that there is a fee (oh no! :lol:) but one which was set by my Higher Self and which seems to be quite a fair price for the work. I understand many people are opposed to charging money for anything spiritual, and that's fine, but this is the way this work has revealed itself to me.

i understand many people won't believe in this side of spirituality necessarily, and that's fine - it took me time to get used to the idea myself. but i'm just posting this here in the chance that it meets with people who have an affinity and need for this kind of work. if this is against the rules here then i apologize!

i hope everyone is doing well though, and wish you all the best :smile: :sun:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18810815 - 09/07/13 08:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hi Deff, I've liked your posts here for the most part. But I think you're a fool and wasting you time on mystical megalomaniacal healer bullshit.

You know what they call alternative medicine when it works? 

Medicine.

Does your higher self give good head? Cause your lower self is a shitty lover.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18810822 - 09/07/13 08:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Out of interest deff, how did your higher self contact you? And how do you know it's your higher self?


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18810824 - 09/07/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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hihi! :sun:

so I recently began working with my Higher Self (something I didn't particularly believe in until it started contacting me) on presenting spiritual healings for people. I've been receiving healings from healers for quite a while now and have noticed great benefits, but I didn't know until recently that my Higher Self is capable of these healings too.

so with the guidance from this part of my being, I've set up a healing centre online here: www.lotusgateway.com I offer free introductory healings to anyone who's interested with no strings attached. after that there is a fee (oh no! :lol:) but one which was set by my Higher Self and which seems to be quite a fair price for the work. I understand many people are opposed to charging money for anything spiritual, and that's fine, but this is the way this work has revealed itself to me.

i understand many people won't believe in this side of spirituality necessarily, and that's fine - it took me time to get used to the idea myself. but i'm just posting this here in the chance that it meets with people who have an affinity and need for this kind of work. if this is against the rules here then i apologize!

i hope everyone is doing well though, and wish you all the best :smile: :sun:




Actually I think it is against the site rules.  Not sure so you should check. Actually you should have checked before posting.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: eve69]
    #18810831 - 09/07/13 08:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Hi Deff, I've liked your posts here for the most part. But I think you're a fool and wasting you time on mystical megalomaniacal healer bullshit.

You know what they call alternative medicine when it works? 

Medicine.

Does your higher self give good head? Cause your lower self is a shitty lover.





Why the anger?  It doesn't effect you either way on a material level.  I think you mentioned you needed a vacation from here because of this attitude.  I understand your strong feelings on this but it's going to bug you more than anyone else here.  I'm not saying this because I disagree but I've been down that road and it leads to suffering imo.  Just sayin. :nicesmile:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: eve69]
    #18810832 - 09/07/13 08:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

@eve69 :lol: that's fine if you feel that way :smile: i expected to get some of these responses lol

@pocketlady : my higher self initially created a 'healing crisis' for me involving what seemed to be me being possessed by an entity. i explain it in the 'about me' section of that site. but then over time it revealed that this was just a means to purify my karma and guide me to healers and into healing myself. how do i know it's my higher self? it has the ability to alter my energy at will and speaks from a vantage point that quite assures me it's my higher self. it's hard to explain, but it's like finding out that there's a part of you that's playing the "puppet master" to your human experience, and it's quite easy to see that this part is in control and also has my best interests in mind. it really wasn't something i sought out (i didn't even particularly believe in higher selves to begin with) - it was really entirely my higher self seeking it out for me. hope this explains it a bit ? :smile:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18810838 - 09/07/13 08:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Just out of curiosity what do you think of the chances it would work if one doesn't believe in it?


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18810846 - 09/07/13 08:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What exactly do you think your higher self is?  Where does it reside, where does it come from, how does it contact you?


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: Icelander]
    #18810847 - 09/07/13 08:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

it will work whether or not one believes in it. believing in it is not a requirement for it to work. however, believing in it is probably a requirement to invest in the healings - but this is part of the reason why a free initial session is offered. there's no risk with that and if you don't notice anything or feel it isn't worthwhile then there's no pressure to get another session :smile:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: Icelander]
    #18810848 - 09/07/13 09:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Why the anger? First off, it's not a subject for discussion. It's a spam post plain and simple. Second, some dipshit say, some real drooling idiot comes to your way and says they have psychic healing for you. Well maybe Jeff isn't a drooling idiot. But he thinks we are not to see his game. So what's the diff, I mean Deff.

Also Deff by putting himself in the limelight for this second rate production receives karma from a shitty asshole Ebay seller who cursed me out for claiming the Mullard tube he sent me was really RCA.

You see, by being a dipshit, you receive the return karma from historical disphits.  So the anger is part and parcel of the entire thread from the outset.



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Re: a new project of mine [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #18810849 - 09/07/13 09:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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What exactly do you think your higher self is?  Where does it reside, where does it come from, how does it contact you?




the higher self is the super conscious part of you that exists outside of your human conscious experience - it guides you through your life basically. it "resides" in pure being, not in a physical sense of existing in space and time. prior to incarnating, i'm told that the "lower self" and the "higher self" plan out the given incarnation, and then it's the higher self that sees to it that this plan is followed through. that's all i know on the matter at the present really :smile:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18810854 - 09/07/13 09:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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it will work whether or not one believes in it. believing in it is not a requirement for it to work. however, believing in it is probably a requirement to invest in the healings - but this is part of the reason why a free initial session is offered. there's no risk with that and if you don't notice anything or feel it isn't worthwhile then there's no pressure to get another session :smile:






You say your Dzogchen Buddhist and you're promoting making money off of something which has no quality or quantity - your Buddha nature.  You're fucking up your vows which demand you do not hold yourself up high or proclaim spiritual status which you don't have.

Moreover, psychic healing doesn't work because it has no specifics. For instance, moving a rock from point A to B works because it has specifics.  Psychically healing a person from something unknown to another state not understood is just pissing off a cliff and wishing someone gets to take a shower.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: Icelander]
    #18810856 - 09/07/13 09:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

First one's free Icelander. I nominate you to be our guinea pig. Deff, if you can heal Icelander I will acknowledge your spiritual power. Go!


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: Grapefruit]
    #18810858 - 09/07/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

He needs to start on me, he need not even tell me, since 'it works.'


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: eve69]
    #18810862 - 09/07/13 09:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i really am not putting myself above anyone with this. it's not even me, as my conscious self that does the work. it's my higher self that came to me with the idea if you will, and who performs the healings. i do not have any special spiritual status for being able to do this. every higher self is much more endowed with "spiritual abilities" than the lower self, and healing is one area that higher selves can partake in. different beings have different latent abilities due to their past lives. i'm not claiming to be anyone special for offering this or raising myself up. this is just an offering that my higher self is making, and is available to anyone who is interested. if you're not interested then there's no harm at all :smile:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18810869 - 09/07/13 09:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So do you receive any information from your higher-self as to what it's doing to your customer?  Do you consciously take part?  For example, if I had a healing done, would you then be able to tell me what your higher-self did and how it healed me?


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: eve69]
    #18810870 - 09/07/13 09:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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He needs to start on me, he need not even tell me, since 'it works.'




You are too biased. It might work then you might claim it didn't.

By the way I agree with Deff, if you're not interested there is no need to participate.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: eve69]
    #18810873 - 09/07/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Why the anger? First off, it's not a subject for discussion. It's a spam post plain and simple. Second, some dipshit say, some real drooling idiot comes to your way and says they have psychic healing for you. Well maybe Jeff isn't a drooling idiot. But he thinks we are not to see his game. So what's the diff, I mean Deff.

Also Deff by putting himself in the limelight for this second rate production receives karma from a shitty asshole Ebay seller who cursed me out for claiming the Mullard tube he sent me was really RCA.

You see, by being a dipshit, you receive the return karma from historical disphits.  So the anger is part and parcel of the entire thread from the outset.







What a lot of :holyshit: on your part imo. You're pissed off plain and simple.  You're projecting it onto his thread so as not to own it imo.  I'm not seeing you doing this for anyone but yourself.  So, why the anger?


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: Grapefruit]
    #18810882 - 09/07/13 09:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

He said you don't have to believe anything.  Then he said blah blah fucking blah [quote=deff]i really am not putting myself above anyone with this. it's not even me, as my conscious self that does the work. it's my higher self that came to me with the idea if you will, and who performs the healings. i do not have any special spiritual status for being able to do this. every higher self is much more endowed with "spiritual abilities" than the lower self, and healing is one area that higher selves can partake in. different beings have different latent abilities due to their past lives. i'm not claiming to be anyone special for offering this or raising myself up. this is just an offering that my higher self is making, and is available to anyone who is interested. if you're not interested then there's no harm at all :smile:


Finally, he isn't any fucking Buddhist at all if he thinks there's a higher and lower self. that's not taught by any Buddhist I ever knew. Take all that Tibetan and shit from your sig, poseur.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: PocketLady]
    #18810884 - 09/07/13 09:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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So do you receive any information from your higher-self as to what it's doing to your customer?  Do you consciously take part?  For example, if I had a healing done, would you then be able to tell me what your higher-self did and how it healed me?




i have a very open communication with my higher self, but it's up to him what information he gives me about a session. but due to the complexity of what actually occurs energetically during a session, there's no way i (as the lower self) would be able to understand it fully. so i'm only told what my higher self feels is necessary to relay to the client. that's all i can do (as it's not me as the lower self doing the healing) :smile:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: eve69]
    #18810893 - 09/07/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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He said you don't have to believe anything.  Then he said blah blah fucking blah [quote=deff]i really am not putting myself above anyone with this. it's not even me, as my conscious self that does the work. it's my higher self that came to me with the idea if you will, and who performs the healings. i do not have any special spiritual status for being able to do this. every higher self is much more endowed with "spiritual abilities" than the lower self, and healing is one area that higher selves can partake in. different beings have different latent abilities due to their past lives. i'm not claiming to be anyone special for offering this or raising myself up. this is just an offering that my higher self is making, and is available to anyone who is interested. if you're not interested then there's no harm at all :smile:


Finally, he isn't any fucking Buddhist at all if he thinks there's a higher and lower self. that's not taught by any Buddhist I ever knew. Take all that Tibetan and shit from your sig, poseur.




you're right that higher and lower self is not taught in Buddhism. and this was a strong apprehension i had when my "higher self" began contacting me and explaining it this way (as i'm quite used to buddhist ideas). however, higher self is just a term - it really means the part of the being outside of conscious experience. while this isn't taught in buddhism, it's not in contradiction with the buddhist teachings either. buddhism is taught in a very direct way to end suffering, it isn't by any means the entire picture of what goes on spiritually imo :smile:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18810902 - 09/07/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm down for almost anything free.  So can you heal my anxiety due to Death Anxiety?  I'm ready anytime. :thumbup:  Seriously. Do I need to go to the web site or can you just do it from here.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: Icelander]
    #18810915 - 09/07/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i'll PM you icelander :smile: and we'll set up a time. though i don't set the 'topic' of healings, it's what your being and mine decide is best to proceed with.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18810919 - 09/07/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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you're right that higher and lower self is not taught in Buddhism. and this was a strong apprehension i had when my "higher self" began contacting me and explaining it this way (as i'm quite used to buddhist ideas). however, higher self is just a term - it really means the part of the being outside of conscious experience. while this isn't taught in buddhism, it's not in contradiction with the buddhist teachings either. buddhism is taught in a very direct way to end suffering, it isn't by any means the entire picture of what goes on spiritually imo :smile:

















So you're smarter than Buddha who didn't talk about things outside of consciousness. Maybe you're the unconsciousness Buddha.  The only suffering you're possibly helping is your lack of pocket change.  If I had a dime for every psychic fraud, I could go to Starbucks and buy a mud juice.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: eve69]
    #18810930 - 09/07/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'd also be up for a 15 minute freebie.  I'm sceptical but will keep an open mind.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: eve69]
    #18810933 - 09/07/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i'm definitely not smarter than Buddha by any means :lol:

here is a famous sutta from the pali canon though that explains how Buddha did not teach everything he knew: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn56/sn56.031.than.html

i still practice buddhism and am by no ways a buddha myself :smile:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: Icelander]
    #18810951 - 09/07/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i'll PM you icelander :smile: and we'll set up a time. though i don't set the 'topic' of healings, it's what your being and mine decide is best to proceed with.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18810953 - 09/07/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting, my mom recently brought me to one healer because doctors couldn't find the reason why I was having epileptic seizures.
The healer didn't charge any money, the people who told my mom about him said that he takes groceries. So I went to the shop and bought bunch of groceries and gave them to him.
After the healer observed my body he said that there was some demonic spirit and advised me to go to church and report the cause so the priests so that they can pray and by that way the spirit will leave.
My point is, how did you deal with that being which possessed you?
I think by fighting the being inside I will just strengthen it, so I am going by the way of love and mindfulness.
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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18810954 - 09/07/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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i'll PM you icelander :smile: and we'll set up a time. though i don't set the 'topic' of healings, it's what your being and mine decide is best to proceed with.




OK works for me.  Now lets see what happens.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: HeartAndMind]
    #18810971 - 09/07/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Bummer, get that epilepsy under control. You're whole question above is so full of misunderstandings I can't even begin.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: HeartAndMind]
    #18810976 - 09/07/13 09:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

well in my case the "being" possessing me was actually my higher self. it was very very difficult for me. it made me go and seek out healers even though i wasn't totally sold on the concept at the time. most healers came to the conclusion that it was a part of me, but they didn't know why or how it was happening (i guess my higher self kept this a secret). eventually the experience shifted on its own, but not due to anything i consciously did. so my situation is different than being possessed by an actual entity. i can't really give you any recommendations as i'm not particularly experienced with that. but getting in touch with people experienced in this field is my best suggestion. and don't believe everything a given person tells you about it - you're bound to get many different interpretations of the situation from different people, as situations are usually very complex i think. sorry i can't be of more help i'm really not an expert on that, but i hope you find relief from it


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18811089 - 09/07/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks :smile: I'm don't usually believe such things, but it's second psychic that tells me to go to church :lol:.
I actually found really smart and wise priest in one church, he brings me peace of mind when I talk to him also.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: HeartAndMind]
    #18811090 - 09/07/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

cool! glad to hear :smile:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18811116 - 09/07/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

he can't even run his own life
ill be damned if hell run mine
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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18811729 - 09/07/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

deff, I believe you.  I've had multiple experiences of possession states and communication.  It seems I've attracted negative entities.  Once I thought I had contacted a higher self or knower.  But there is sabotage.  Rapist negative entities that feed and damage the brain.  ...that keep you from unity with all the good of your being.  You latent talents and abilities.

Is there anything you can do about entity removal.  I've seen people in the past that claim to have that power but they made fools out of themselves.  What do you think about trying to free me from demonic possession?



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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18811749 - 09/07/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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i really am not putting myself above anyone with this. it's not even me, as my conscious self that does the work. it's my higher self that came to me with the idea if you will, and who performs the healings. i do not have any special spiritual status for being able to do this. every higher self is much more endowed with "spiritual abilities" than the lower self, and healing is one area that higher selves can partake in. different beings have different latent abilities due to their past lives. i'm not claiming to be anyone special for offering this or raising myself up. this is just an offering that my higher self is making, and is available to anyone who is interested. if you're not interested then there's no harm at all :smile:




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Re: a new project of mine [Re: teknix]
    #18811767 - 09/07/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

no, it's just a figure of speech :smile:

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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18811780 - 09/07/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thnx deff.:peace:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #18812228 - 09/07/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

deff, I am going to give you some really solid advice:

before you create a new trend of karma in your life which you will reap benefits and sorrows from you should consider if this is what you want to be.

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Re: a new project of mine [Re: eve69]
    #18812282 - 09/07/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Karma sharma.  Let him do his thing. It's not hurting anyone imo.

And I got my "healing".  Didn't notice anything however. :shrug:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: Icelander]
    #18812404 - 09/07/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Karma sharma.  Let him do his thing. It's not hurting anyone imo.

And I got my "healing".  Didn't notice anything however. :shrug:




Same here. I didn't notice anything either.


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    #18812437 - 09/07/13 06:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe we're soul mates. :satansmoking:


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    #18812560 - 09/07/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah that must be it :heartpump:

It did make me realise how easy it could have been to think something happened though.  Sitting around thinking you are receiving a healing, trying to feel something.  Just asking yourself "how do I feel right now?" You can end up convincing yourself you feel better than you did 15 minutes before.

I've been to healers before and felt like it did something for me, but I wasn't really on my guard for the above effect at the time.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: Icelander]
    #18812590 - 09/07/13 06:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Here's a little aside on spiritual healing I came across a couple weeks back.

For my Grandma's 75th birthday party there was an open bar and I got more drunk than I had in many months leading up to the day. That night as I was sleeping, still slightly drunk, dehydrated, I woke up in the half-sleep state hearing a conversation between two people. The conversation turned sour and the voices got demonic - sinister laughing at me, etc. I felt an "energy attack" for lack of a better descriptive turn... it feels like your whole body is it with energy and I tried to remain calm, but as I woke fear set in and I felt the energy go into my back.

For the next few days I had this pain in my back. It felt like I had pulled a small muscle or something. It hurt when I sat in my chair at work, all day.

Finally a few days later I decided to attempt to heal myself during meditation and subsequently with affirmations as I went to bed. That night I had this intense dream where I was trapped in a meth house with these two hungry ghosts who were doing meth. It was a very dark dream. In the dream I managed to escape the house, and I woke just as I ran out the front door. I woke up and the pain was gone. Nothing, and it hasn't came back.

This is one of several experiences I have had involving healing without traditional Western medicine. If there is anyone on this forum who can help others, it is probably Deff. He has consistently been one of the most down to Earth giving people on these boards. I personally come from the belief that a healthy diet of mostly whole fruits, vegetables, and water will cure 99% of disease. However most people afflict themselves by their diets and healers can be useful - people who have learned to focus intent in this way.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #18812594 - 09/07/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Also, good luck with your endeavor Deff. :thumbup:


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    #18812606 - 09/07/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

thanks cosmo! and that's a great story about the self-healing :smile:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: PocketLady]
    #18812831 - 09/07/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah that must be it :heartpump:

It did make me realise how easy it could have been to think something happened though.  Sitting around thinking you are receiving a healing, trying to feel something.  Just asking yourself "how do I feel right now?" You can end up convincing yourself you feel better than you did 15 minutes before.

I've been to healers before and felt like it did something for me, but I wasn't really on my guard for the above effect at the time.





Bingo!:thumbup:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #18813213 - 09/07/13 10:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hey Deff, I'd be interested to give it a try if you're down.  I've been dealing with some addiction-related issues and am curious how effective this sort of thing might be.  :mushroom2:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deCypher]
    #18813327 - 09/07/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

hey deCypher! check your PM's :smile:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18813384 - 09/07/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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hihi! :sun:

so I recently began working with my Higher Self (something I didn't particularly believe in until it started contacting me) on presenting spiritual healings for people. I've been receiving healings from healers for quite a while now and have noticed great benefits, but I didn't know until recently that my Higher Self is capable of these healings too.

so with the guidance from this part of my being, I've set up a healing centre online here: www.lotusgateway.com I offer free introductory healings to anyone who's interested with no strings attached. after that there is a fee (oh no! :lol:) but one which was set by my Higher Self and which seems to be quite a fair price for the work. I understand many people are opposed to charging money for anything spiritual, and that's fine, but this is the way this work has revealed itself to me.

i understand many people won't believe in this side of spirituality necessarily, and that's fine - it took me time to get used to the idea myself. but i'm just posting this here in the chance that it meets with people who have an affinity and need for this kind of work. if this is against the rules here then i apologize!

i hope everyone is doing well though, and wish you all the best :smile: :sun:




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Re: a new project of mine [Re: lolwut]
    #18816606 - 09/08/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ok deff, I'm ready when you are!


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: teknix]
    #18816631 - 09/08/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18817343 - 09/08/13 11:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'd like to hear peoples experiences.  I hope everyone who takes you up on your offer posts.

For myself now, after a day or two I didn't have any results at all. :sad:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: Icelander]
    #18817469 - 09/09/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think I will keep it private, thanks for the offer though.

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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18818306 - 09/09/13 09:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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PocketLady said:
So do you receive any information from your higher-self as to what it's doing to your customer?  Do you consciously take part?  For example, if I had a healing done, would you then be able to tell me what your higher-self did and how it healed me?




i have a very open communication with my higher self, but it's up to him what information he gives me about a session. but due to the complexity of what actually occurs energetically during a session, there's no way i (as the lower self) would be able to understand it fully. so i'm only told what my higher self feels is necessary to relay to the client. that's all i can do (as it's not me as the lower self doing the healing) :smile:




I want to believe you plain and simple but there has to be some sort of measurement for that to happen.

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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18818457 - 09/09/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

good luck with your endeavor Deff :rockon:

I don't really have the money for healing, at the moment I fear I shall be forced to decompose :lol: haha jk jk


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    #18818554 - 09/09/13 11:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

thanks for the good luck, g00ru! :smile:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18818761 - 09/09/13 12:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You know, I didn't have time to sit when I was supposed to.  This lady that I'm doing some web design for came over and we were working on her site at the time.  So what do we do?





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Re: a new project of mine [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #18818834 - 09/09/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

hey fishoilthekid, check your PM's :smile: wishing you all the best~


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18820289 - 09/09/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks def, it was pretty intriguing!

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    #18820360 - 09/09/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

no problem! glad to be of help :smile: :sun:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18821219 - 09/09/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'd be interested in giving it a shot. I've been a Negative Nancy for the past year or so and it'd be nice if I could try and lighten up a little more without being all misanthropic and depressed. :smile:

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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18897379 - 09/27/13 03:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hey dude

I would like to check this out. :soundsgoodman:

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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18898313 - 09/27/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

someday you're going to attract a psychostalker
they are going to need healing more than you can fathom
you are going to charge them money and give them false hope
and when they get mad they are going to stalk you like a deer
and that is what I meant by consider your karma
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    #18898724 - 09/27/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18899800 - 09/27/13 05:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

All healing is spiritual inasmuch as the root word for health also is root for whole and holy. I am in a helping profession, and I charge money for my time, but I wouldn't turn someone away if they really need help (like a kid) and can't pay me. It requires energy to really get into therapy with someone, and I know I have but so much energy to give. I need to be replenished. Even Jesus was said to have commented "Somebody hath touched me: for I perceive that virtue is gone out of me," in Luke 8:46. Virtue derives from the Latin 'virtus,' a masculine word for strength or power. I put a lot of energy into a client, and remuneration returns "green energy" to me that I can recycle into food, wine, or other sustenance. :shrug:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #18899849 - 09/27/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You live in Florida, that's expected.

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    #18900975 - 09/27/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's the same need to survive in every state, it's the state of mind that's different. I usually give way more time than I'm getting paid for, as my wife cautioned me today with the inquiry of a potential new client.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #18901124 - 09/27/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It's the same need to survive in every state, it's the state of mind that's different. I usually give way more time than I'm getting paid for, as my wife cautioned me today with the inquiry of a potential new client.




balancing out interest ( the state of wanting to know or learn about something or someone:) vs. interest ( money paid regularly at a particular rate) 

the real question if you enjoy doing it in the first place.  even if it doesn't pay monetarily, it may still give you mojo and be the right thing for you, especially if you're reestablishing yourself in private practice.


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    #18906595 - 09/29/13 10:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

OP, that's some fine quality placebo you're selling there, good on you :lol:

If I may suggest, pimp up your site with a bit more wavy lines and lotuses and chakras, that way the placebo will be stronger for people visiting, they'll actually feel stuff and be back for return sessions.

See here for example:  http://evernewjoy.net/

I'm somewhat of an artist, if you need any waves and graphics for your site drop me a :pm: but I'm sure you can find free ones just fine. Be all that you can be :heart:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: Spacerific]
    #18906604 - 09/29/13 11:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Wow his music sucks. :lol:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: Icelander]
    #18906806 - 09/29/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Wow his music sucks. :lol:



Well the music is definitely some sort of acquired taste (one I haven't fully acquired myself really :lol:) but the vibe is good, he points in the right direction. Also nice tie-dye shirts, very pleasing visually.

Goes without saying that the long the beard, the wiser the man. If OP had a beard like that, he'd be rolling in the dough :strokebeard:

If he also had a hat, it'd be game over :rofl:



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Re: a new project of mine [Re: Spacerific]
    #18907332 - 09/29/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

OMG I hadn't even looked at the site but now that I have I hate you - you're revolting Deff. Never again am I even looking at another of your posts.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: eve69]
    #18907524 - 09/29/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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OMG I hadn't even looked at the site but now that I have I hate you - you're revolting Deff. Never again am I even looking at another of your posts.



Haha, I love a good strong sincere emotional reaction.

I'm sure this thread and that site will have an explanation at some point, along the lines of "I was just fucking with you all, to see how long until people start calling bullshit."

Or "It was all a social experiment, regarding naivete, credulity, willingness to buy top notch premium snake oil."

I for one would like to see some graphs, to see in actual detail the number of mofos that will fork out cash for absolutely nothing, just placebo in their head. I would like to say I expect that graph to remain on 0, but if $cientology and other religions taught us anything, it's precisely this, that people are easy to dupe, with the right marketing.



The only thing in question here is OP's ability to set himself up as a proper medicine man in touch with his "Higher Self". Right now I don't think that's happening, as he's just a guy in a t-shirt with a rushed text site. But if he had some proper media and flashy gear to woo-woo people with, oh the potential of it :biggrin:

Get out your crystals and wands and orgone generators OP, you have to focus your energies and vibrate and resonate and be at one with the Source. Here take some lessons from Arcturus Ra - that's how you market your stuff properly. And what the heck is your site doing without a Flower of Life background? Man you need some consulting about these things :lol:

Good on OP for keeping us on our toes, the people who can't see through the smoke screen deserve being taken for all they've got :thumbup:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: Spacerific]
    #18910218 - 09/30/13 07:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe deff has gone over to the dark side?:pope:

While his treatment of my condition was ineffectual I will say that I'm all of a sudden having great success with it when another poster suggested I give Kratom another try. :nicesmile:


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