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Re: a new project of mine [Re: eve69]
    #18810893 - 09/07/13 09:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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He said you don't have to believe anything.  Then he said blah blah fucking blah [quote=deff]i really am not putting myself above anyone with this. it's not even me, as my conscious self that does the work. it's my higher self that came to me with the idea if you will, and who performs the healings. i do not have any special spiritual status for being able to do this. every higher self is much more endowed with "spiritual abilities" than the lower self, and healing is one area that higher selves can partake in. different beings have different latent abilities due to their past lives. i'm not claiming to be anyone special for offering this or raising myself up. this is just an offering that my higher self is making, and is available to anyone who is interested. if you're not interested then there's no harm at all :smile:


Finally, he isn't any fucking Buddhist at all if he thinks there's a higher and lower self. that's not taught by any Buddhist I ever knew. Take all that Tibetan and shit from your sig, poseur.




you're right that higher and lower self is not taught in Buddhism. and this was a strong apprehension i had when my "higher self" began contacting me and explaining it this way (as i'm quite used to buddhist ideas). however, higher self is just a term - it really means the part of the being outside of conscious experience. while this isn't taught in buddhism, it's not in contradiction with the buddhist teachings either. buddhism is taught in a very direct way to end suffering, it isn't by any means the entire picture of what goes on spiritually imo :smile:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18810902 - 09/07/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm down for almost anything free.  So can you heal my anxiety due to Death Anxiety?  I'm ready anytime. :thumbup:  Seriously. Do I need to go to the web site or can you just do it from here.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: Icelander]
    #18810915 - 09/07/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i'll PM you icelander :smile: and we'll set up a time. though i don't set the 'topic' of healings, it's what your being and mine decide is best to proceed with.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18810919 - 09/07/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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you're right that higher and lower self is not taught in Buddhism. and this was a strong apprehension i had when my "higher self" began contacting me and explaining it this way (as i'm quite used to buddhist ideas). however, higher self is just a term - it really means the part of the being outside of conscious experience. while this isn't taught in buddhism, it's not in contradiction with the buddhist teachings either. buddhism is taught in a very direct way to end suffering, it isn't by any means the entire picture of what goes on spiritually imo :smile:

















So you're smarter than Buddha who didn't talk about things outside of consciousness. Maybe you're the unconsciousness Buddha.  The only suffering you're possibly helping is your lack of pocket change.  If I had a dime for every psychic fraud, I could go to Starbucks and buy a mud juice.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: eve69]
    #18810930 - 09/07/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'd also be up for a 15 minute freebie.  I'm sceptical but will keep an open mind.


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The day we start giving Love instead of seeking Love, we will have re-written our whole destiny.
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Re: a new project of mine [Re: eve69]
    #18810933 - 09/07/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i'm definitely not smarter than Buddha by any means :lol:

here is a famous sutta from the pali canon though that explains how Buddha did not teach everything he knew: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn56/sn56.031.than.html

i still practice buddhism and am by no ways a buddha myself :smile:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: Icelander]
    #18810951 - 09/07/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i'll PM you icelander :smile: and we'll set up a time. though i don't set the 'topic' of healings, it's what your being and mine decide is best to proceed with.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18810953 - 09/07/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting, my mom recently brought me to one healer because doctors couldn't find the reason why I was having epileptic seizures.
The healer didn't charge any money, the people who told my mom about him said that he takes groceries. So I went to the shop and bought bunch of groceries and gave them to him.
After the healer observed my body he said that there was some demonic spirit and advised me to go to church and report the cause so the priests so that they can pray and by that way the spirit will leave.
My point is, how did you deal with that being which possessed you?
I think by fighting the being inside I will just strengthen it, so I am going by the way of love and mindfulness.
Can you suggest anything how to deal with the spirit Deff?


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18810954 - 09/07/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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i'll PM you icelander :smile: and we'll set up a time. though i don't set the 'topic' of healings, it's what your being and mine decide is best to proceed with.




OK works for me.  Now lets see what happens.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: HeartAndMind]
    #18810971 - 09/07/13 09:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Bummer, get that epilepsy under control. You're whole question above is so full of misunderstandings I can't even begin.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: HeartAndMind]
    #18810976 - 09/07/13 09:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

well in my case the "being" possessing me was actually my higher self. it was very very difficult for me. it made me go and seek out healers even though i wasn't totally sold on the concept at the time. most healers came to the conclusion that it was a part of me, but they didn't know why or how it was happening (i guess my higher self kept this a secret). eventually the experience shifted on its own, but not due to anything i consciously did. so my situation is different than being possessed by an actual entity. i can't really give you any recommendations as i'm not particularly experienced with that. but getting in touch with people experienced in this field is my best suggestion. and don't believe everything a given person tells you about it - you're bound to get many different interpretations of the situation from different people, as situations are usually very complex i think. sorry i can't be of more help i'm really not an expert on that, but i hope you find relief from it


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18811089 - 09/07/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks :smile: I'm don't usually believe such things, but it's second psychic that tells me to go to church :lol:.
I actually found really smart and wise priest in one church, he brings me peace of mind when I talk to him also.


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: HeartAndMind]
    #18811090 - 09/07/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

cool! glad to hear :smile:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18811116 - 09/07/13 10:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

he can't even run his own life
ill be damned if hell run mine
suuuuuunshine


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18811729 - 09/07/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

deff, I believe you.  I've had multiple experiences of possession states and communication.  It seems I've attracted negative entities.  Once I thought I had contacted a higher self or knower.  But there is sabotage.  Rapist negative entities that feed and damage the brain.  ...that keep you from unity with all the good of your being.  You latent talents and abilities.

Is there anything you can do about entity removal.  I've seen people in the past that claim to have that power but they made fools out of themselves.  What do you think about trying to free me from demonic possession?



How do you know that its not an entity that came to you?


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18811749 - 09/07/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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i really am not putting myself above anyone with this. it's not even me, as my conscious self that does the work. it's my higher self that came to me with the idea if you will, and who performs the healings. i do not have any special spiritual status for being able to do this. every higher self is much more endowed with "spiritual abilities" than the lower self, and healing is one area that higher selves can partake in. different beings have different latent abilities due to their past lives. i'm not claiming to be anyone special for offering this or raising myself up. this is just an offering that my higher self is making, and is available to anyone who is interested. if you're not interested then there's no harm at all :smile:




But the conscious self is yours? Yours who?

I don't mind being a test dummy too!


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: teknix]
    #18811767 - 09/07/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

no, it's just a figure of speech :smile:

fishoilthekid - please check your PM's :smile:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: deff]
    #18811780 - 09/07/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thnx deff.:peace:


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Re: a new project of mine [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #18812228 - 09/07/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

deff, I am going to give you some really solid advice:

before you create a new trend of karma in your life which you will reap benefits and sorrows from you should consider if this is what you want to be.

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Re: a new project of mine [Re: eve69]
    #18812282 - 09/07/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Karma sharma.  Let him do his thing. It's not hurting anyone imo.

And I got my "healing".  Didn't notice anything however. :shrug:


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