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udntsay
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quick question.
#18810281 - 09/07/13 02:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok first of all I'm colonizing a pint jar and two small glass cups, there at about 80% or so ,
My question is - when its time to spawn these to bulk can I break off alil bit and put into some more jars with fresh brf+verm or do i have to PCthe jars?
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Re: quick question. [Re: udntsay]
#18810292 - 09/07/13 02:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Are you talking about transferring the colonized mycelium to more brf jars? Not sure if it's just me, but your question is kinda hard to understand.
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udntsay
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Re: quick question. [Re: JML]
#18810306 - 09/07/13 02:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea pretty much
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Re: quick question. [Re: udntsay]
#18810321 - 09/07/13 02:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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You would definitely want to PC the new jars and use a Glove Box to make the transfers.
What substrate are you using when you spawn to bulk?
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udntsay
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Re: quick question. [Re: JML]
#18810330 - 09/07/13 02:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its brf+verm in the jars, and its going to be brf+verm in the tray...(its all I have) And its going pretty good right now, I'll be doing the transfer into the tray very sanitary like.. But one more q- do I PC the brf + verm in the jars too or just the jars? Andfor how long
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Re: quick question. [Re: udntsay]
#18810353 - 09/07/13 02:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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udntsay said: Its brf+verm in the jars, and its going to be brf+verm in the tray...(its all I have) And its going pretty good right now, I'll be doing the transfer into the tray very sanitary like.. But one more q- do I PC the brf + verm in the jars too or just the jars? Andfor how long
I don't think you can use brf and verm as a bulk substrate - if I've understood you right. It will just go contam
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udntsay
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Re: quick question. [Re: Skinty]
#18810359 - 09/07/13 03:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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There's no way around it at all? Like I can't buy anything else Lolno money used it all on the stuff iI bought already.
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Re: quick question. [Re: udntsay]
#18810381 - 09/07/13 03:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fruit them as cakes...
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udntsay
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I don't have perlite..
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Re: quick question. [Re: udntsay]
#18810409 - 09/07/13 03:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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So what are you using as a fc?
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You could probably case them and fruit as bulk, but it depends on your fruiting chamber. Not sure if it's been done before or not, but if it'll work with grains I can't see why it wouldn't work with brf, but you'll definitely have to be sterile when you spawn/case it.
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udntsay
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I was and probably going to still try spawing two 1/2 pint or so glasses into an aluminum 2lb tray with the lids and holes with poly. But taped up till 100% again
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Re: quick question. [Re: udntsay]
#18810440 - 09/07/13 04:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I spawned brf to bulk coir/ verm not great results but it works... I think I got about an oz. in a 66qt mono where I usually get 4-6
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udntsay
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If you go on my profile into my pics you'll see the tray I'm using, and yes I have a lil plan on how to spawn my cakes to bulk brf+verm sub as sterile as I possibly can
I'll be putting my clothes and two blankets into the washer n dryer so I can have the sheets to put one under me and one over me so its still air, while using a still air box kinda thing I'll be making
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Re: quick question. [Re: udntsay]
#18810442 - 09/07/13 04:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Best of luck...
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Re: quick question. [Re: udntsay]
#18810444 - 09/07/13 04:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Are you going to case it? I'd at least case it in vermiculite. It could work, but that would dramatically increase your chances of success. Exposed grains, especially exposed brf, is just asking for contaminants. It's not so much a problem when spawning regular grains to bulk because the mycilium have already colonized them and will recover quickly enough to outpace any contaminants, but with flour there are just so many points of contamination. If you can spawn it in sterile conditions and then let it recolonize you might be able to fruit it with success as is, but you really have to be that much more sterile in the process.
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udntsay
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Case it with verm? Meaning?
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Re: quick question. [Re: udntsay]
#18810455 - 09/07/13 04:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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And also when I have the bulk sub measured out, meaning when I've figured how much the tray will need with the spawn, should I just PC the verm+brf in a filter bag then mix with spawn day after then to tray?
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udntsay
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Appreciate it sir
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Re: quick question. [Re: udntsay]
#18810475 - 09/07/13 04:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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bro you should to go to the pet store to buy a brick of coconut fiber, add some vermiculite, and pasteurize. don't waste your time trying to use brf and verm for bulk. as blueconfusion said, the results are not great using this method.
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Re: quick question. [Re: JML]
#18810494 - 09/07/13 04:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Coco coir isnt too bad price wise... 7 bucks I think, and youll have at least something to show for your efforts
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udntsay
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Re: quick question. [Re: JML]
#18810498 - 09/07/13 04:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wish I could but literally, I'm broke.
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You can get 3 bricks of eco earth at petco for under $10
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Re: quick question. [Re: udntsay]
#18810502 - 09/07/13 04:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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udntsay said: I wish I could but literally, I'm broke.
Or you can buy one brick at petco for $3. Time to dig in the couch cushions!
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Its kinda the difference between finding borrowing or begging for a couple extra bucks to get something out of what you have or wasting what youve already spent
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blueconfusion
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Or try to fruit invtro
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Always forget about that you wont get much but its something
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udntsay
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Udntsay=poor Lol What's fruit invtro?
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Re: quick question. [Re: udntsay]
#18810517 - 09/07/13 04:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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In the jar
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udntsay
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Re: quick question. [Re: udntsay]
#18810523 - 09/07/13 04:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fruiting invitro is fruiting in the jar...
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udntsay
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Re: quick question. [Re: PussyFart]
#18810530 - 09/07/13 04:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Shrooms wouldnt be that great I'm guessing...
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Quote:
psillyshroomer said:
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udntsay said: I wish I could but literally, I'm broke.
Or you can buy one brick at petco for $3. Time to dig in the couch cushions!
QFT OR go sell your plasma(not your tv)...
Seriously though buddy, don't half ass it. You said your jars are at 80 percent so you still have a few days to get some change together and get a some coco coir.
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udntsay
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Re: quick question. [Re: JML]
#18817538 - 09/09/13 12:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nah I'm just going to try my best under very strile conditions...
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