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InvisiblePanick
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Re: John McCain: ‘Maybe we should legalize’ pot [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18811922 - 09/07/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Weed can be farmed in the same regions and the same manner as tobacco.  Kentucky, for instance, is beginning to grow hemp in large field type scenarios. 
As for weed gumming up the machines, not quite.  My grinder and roller, not very sophisticated and prone to me spilling, go ages without being changed.  Many industrial machines handle and process caustic substances all the time.  Even if it was too sticky it would just be sprayed with some topical treatment of one chemical or another to make it behave (like gummy bears) - these are the cigarette companies we are talking about here, not really afraid to throw in their own patented batch of chemicals.


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Re: John McCain: ‘Maybe we should legalize’ pot [Re: Panick]
    #18812031 - 09/07/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: John McCain: ‘Maybe we should legalize’ pot [Re: Panick]
    #18812120 - 09/07/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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boneynerd said:
there all bullshit. lies. then do what they want when they are given any power.



It's not about what happens when they're in power. Just supporting it verbally is a huge step forward.

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sunshine said:
They can't roll pot into packs of joints.  It gums up the automatic rolling machine.



Even if they could, legalization isn't about that. Legalization is about not arresting people for smoking and growing pot. It's about not ending up in prison just because you had a plant in your bedroom. Anything that makes that happen is good whether or not big industry gets into it.

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weed is not really healthy man



Healthier than tobacco or alcohol. Less fatalities than aspirin.

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Panick said:
Weed can be farmed in the same regions and the same manner as tobacco.  Kentucky, for instance, is beginning to grow hemp in large field type scenarios. 




Again, this is missing the point. Legalization is about not arresting people for pot. Beyond that, big tobacco isn't getting involved in weed in Colorado or Washington anyway. The whole argument against legalization based on the fear that big companies might get involved is really stupid.

Just because Walmart might end up selling it one day doesn't mean that we should continue to arrest people for smoking and growing pot.


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Re: John McCain: ‘Maybe we should legalize’ pot [Re: nooneman]
    #18812236 - 09/07/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think you are on such a personal mission here to get your points proven that you are the one missing the point.  I think you misread us, we are saying because Walmart might sell it one day is the *reason* it will be legalized.
It is the big businesses and lobbyists that will eventually make it legal.  Why would tobacco companies jump on board when it is two states?  So they can pander to a relatively small customer base with no established farm/factory land in a region with legalization?
When this movement gets close to finalization, when the final hands needs to be greased with cash, and the broader scope of the United States gets involved is when we will see the big tobacco corporations switching gear just so they can keep their own heads above water the with newest smoking commodity.


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Re: John McCain: ‘Maybe we should legalize’ pot [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18812456 - 09/07/13 06:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Actually, you can get emphysema from smoking pot.  You're 20 times as likely to get it from smoking tobacco.  Pot doesn't seem to cause lung cancer.
I'd prefer to get a tincture and put ten drops or so in a drink in the morning, then repeat throughout the day.


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Re: John McCain: ‘Maybe we should legalize’ pot [Re: travelleler]
    #18812675 - 09/07/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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politicians are fucking robots.  He's gonna say whatever he thinks will make him seem cool. 



True, that. When public opinion of legalization was <50%, 99% of politicians opposed it to cater to voters. Now that it's edging over 50%, we'll see more and more change their official stance on it, just to cater to the voters, no matter what their actual personal stance is. Of course, that's better than nothing, but it still shows you that the majority of politicians cannot be respected.


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Re: John McCain: ‘Maybe we should legalize’ pot [Re: sunshine]
    #18812710 - 09/07/13 07:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Actually, you can get emphysema from smoking pot.  You're 20 times as likely to get it from smoking tobacco.  Pot doesn't seem to cause lung cancer.
I'd prefer to get a tincture and put ten drops or so in a drink in the morning, then repeat throughout the day.




What are the odds of getting emphysema from smoking pot? Is it statistically worth mentioning, because I'm pretty sure it isn't. You can technically be struck by lightning 10 miles from a thunderstorm


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Re: John McCain: ‘Maybe we should legalize’ pot [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18812801 - 09/07/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think McCain has a pretty level head honestly. He is an old timer and for him to realize that weed isn't a big deal is a huge step.. I mean everyone always fucking begs for the politicians to change policies and when they do it they claim they are just trying to please.. McCain is fucking old I doubt he is going to run again for president..


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Re: John McCain: ‘Maybe we should legalize’ pot [Re: Gorlax]
    #18815478 - 09/08/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You should have added your sig to the end of your post lol


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Re: John McCain: ‘Maybe we should legalize’ pot [Re: dark3st]
    #18816273 - 09/08/13 06:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like McCain is gearing up to run for president.


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Re: John McCain: ‘Maybe we should legalize’ pot [Re: Panick]
    #18817068 - 09/08/13 10:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Too little, too late John.  You had your chance and blew it.  Now go away.


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Re: John McCain: ‘Maybe we should legalize’ pot [Re: SuperD]
    #18817073 - 09/08/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Too little, too late John.  You had your chance and blew it.  Now go away.




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Re: John McCain: ‘Maybe we should legalize’ pot [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18817434 - 09/09/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Repertoire89 said:
Not sure what you mean by that, there is no reasonable risk associated with smoking outside of prohibition and a lot of medical benefits




I have never met a chronic marijuana user who was made "healthier" by the habit than a teetotaler, you are kidding yourself if you think it's good for you. Marijuana does have medical applications for pain relief but the average 7-days-a-week recreational user is a disheveled, useless bum.


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Re: John McCain: ‘Maybe we should legalize’ pot [Re: Brand X]
    #18817640 - 09/09/13 01:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe he deserves to be water boarded but at least he is open to the idea of legalized marijuana


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Re: John McCain: ‘Maybe we should legalize’ pot [Re: Brand X]
    #18818356 - 09/09/13 10:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Repertoire89 said:
Not sure what you mean by that, there is no reasonable risk associated with smoking outside of prohibition and a lot of medical benefits




I have never met a chronic marijuana user who was made "healthier" by the habit than a teetotaler, you are kidding yourself if you think it's good for you. Marijuana does have medical applications for pain relief but the average 7-days-a-week recreational user is a disheveled, useless bum.





I've seen both sides of the spectrum... in person, and I'd have to agree with you, though I wouldnt call them useless bums--- but certainly a breakfast-lunch-dinner 24/7 bong hitting stoner operates on a scale of "reduced productivity"  no doubt.

on the flipside though--- people who suck down espresso and 5-hour energy shots three times a day (or more) often seem irritable and emotionally volatile, argumentative, road rage, etc...

good quality natural sleep is pivotal for human health-- despite what some people might say...  marijuana, alcohol, and caffeine all interfere with REM sleep :shrug:


IMHO--- a few bong tokes once or twice a week is the best way to use weed... at least for people who use relationally and not for medical reasons.  at those levels the herb is inspiring-- the body does not have much tolerance to the THC and you get a lot more "mindfood" from the experience.  Whereas daily use becomes more of a chore and the benefits are diminished somewhat

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Re: John McCain: ‘Maybe we should legalize’ pot [Re: Brand X]
    #18818651 - 09/09/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Repertoire89 said:
Not sure what you mean by that, there is no reasonable risk associated with smoking outside of prohibition and a lot of medical benefits




I have never met a chronic marijuana user who was made "healthier" by the habit than a teetotaler, you are kidding yourself if you think it's good for you. Marijuana does have medical applications for pain relief but the average 7-days-a-week recreational user is a disheveled, useless bum.




:lol: you just made a ridiculous generalization and I'm the one who's 'kidding' myself.


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Re: John McCain: ‘Maybe we should legalize’ pot [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18826507 - 09/11/13 04:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Awesome to hear for you guys in US :smile: good vibes from the people of AUS through the sea!

Let me be the first to apologise for our new govt on behalf of the the youngsters everywhere here. Lucky i have found shroomery woo, it doesn't matter!:mushroom2::rocket:


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