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Re: atheism is small minded. [Re: Fire is Born]
    #18817899 - 09/09/13 05:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Fire is Born said:
Fuck reading all this.
Just riddle me one thing......Why do you believe in god? Or any god for that matter




Imagine there is this drug, but it's free, legal and built into your brain. You can't overdose and there is no tolerance.. in fact the more you use it the better it feels. It is very euphoric and kills any sort of anxiety, worries and doubts and it motivates you to better yourself. Despite popular belief, using this drug doesn't stop you thinking logically/rationally and having a passion for science.

That's what having faith is like. Or any form of Bhakti/devotional yoga. Obviously you can "believe in god" and still feel like shit but belief is not important. It's the act of actually loving god and being thankful to god that causes the amazing feelings.

Think of it like a brain hack. Love is a powerfully positive emotion BUT no earthly love is unconditional. You may love your wife very much, but if she starts sleeping with other guys, treats you like dirt and takes all your money you don't love her as much any more do you? That love has conditions. However if you love God, Krishna or whatever deity you are in effect hacking the brains mechanism for love. You can love this deity as much as you like, love them more every day and all those positive feelings you get from love just keep growing because this love is without condition.

Asking why someone has faith is like asking why they drop acid. Feels good man.


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Re: atheism is small minded. [Re: Dawks]
    #18817906 - 09/09/13 06:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Woo. Big time.


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Re: atheism is small minded. [Re: Dawks]
    #18817946 - 09/09/13 06:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Dawks said:
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Fire is Born said:
Fuck reading all this.
Just riddle me one thing......Why do you believe in god? Or any god for that matter




Imagine there is this drug, but it's free, legal and built into your brain. You can't overdose and there is no tolerance.. in fact the more you use it the better it feels. It is very euphoric and kills any sort of anxiety, worries and doubts and it motivates you to better yourself. Despite popular belief, using this drug doesn't stop you thinking logically/rationally and having a passion for science.

That's what having faith is like. Or any form of Bhakti/devotional yoga. Obviously you can "believe in god" and still feel like shit but belief is not important. It's the act of actually loving god and being thankful to god that causes the amazing feelings.

Think of it like a brain hack. Love is a powerfully positive emotion BUT no earthly love is unconditional. You may love your wife very much, but if she starts sleeping with other guys, treats you like dirt and takes all your money you don't love her as much any more do you? That love has conditions. However if you love God, Krishna or whatever deity you are in effect hacking the brains mechanism for love. You can love this deity as much as you like, love them more every day and all those positive feelings you get from love just keep growing because this love is without condition.

Asking why someone has faith is like asking why they drop acid. Feels good man.



It's not faith your feeling, it's community. More so conformity. But that description gave us no indication of why you believe in a god other than it feels good to lie to myself.


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Re: atheism is small minded. [Re: Dawks]
    #18817962 - 09/09/13 06:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Dawks said:
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Fire is Born said:
Fuck reading all this.
Just riddle me one thing......Why do you believe in god? Or any god for that matter




Imagine there is this drug, but it's free, legal and built into your brain. You can't overdose and there is no tolerance.. in fact the more you use it the better it feels. It is very euphoric and kills any sort of anxiety, worries and doubts and it motivates you to better yourself. Despite popular belief, using this drug doesn't stop you thinking logically/rationally and having a passion for science.

That's what having faith is like. Or any form of Bhakti/devotional yoga. Obviously you can "believe in god" and still feel like shit but belief is not important. It's the act of actually loving god and being thankful to god that causes the amazing feelings.

Think of it like a brain hack. Love is a powerfully positive emotion BUT no earthly love is unconditional. You may love your wife very much, but if she starts sleeping with other guys, treats you like dirt and takes all your money you don't love her as much any more do you? That love has conditions. However if you love God, Krishna or whatever deity you are in effect hacking the brains mechanism for love. You can love this deity as much as you like, love them more every day and all those positive feelings you get from love just keep growing because this love is without condition.

Asking why someone has faith is like asking why they drop acid. Feels good man.



Not really. Plenty of people are happy all the time and don't believe in God.  A lot of religious people are extremely unhappy as well. So I do not agree with you.  That was just a generalization.  I can shkw you many depressed and suicidal religous types, angry womanizers and rapists....


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Re: atheism is small minded. [Re: Fire is Born]
    #18817964 - 09/09/13 06:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'd argue more a case of closure born from fear


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Re: atheism is small minded. [Re: Fire is Born]
    #18817969 - 09/09/13 06:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You can give something you've made up any properties you wish. It has unconditional love for you. How much more narcissistic can you get?


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Re: atheism is small minded. [Re: koods]
    #18817994 - 09/09/13 07:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So buying a sex doll = happiness/god?


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Re: atheism is small minded. [Re: Fire is Born]
    #18817995 - 09/09/13 07:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Fire is Born said:
So buying a sex doll = happiness?




I think sucking your own dick is a better analogy.


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Re: atheism is small minded. [Re: koods]
    #18818007 - 09/09/13 07:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Belief in god doesn't teach you anything people haven't already learned through experience and investigation of the world we live in. I'm not sure why you think hope and love have any relationship to a particular belief.




I believe hope and love demonstrate the CONNECTED nature between us(humans, respect for animals, organisms) and the future(hope).

See, thing is, atheism isn't enough to fulfill my sense of completeness(not a word?). I have been brought up with varying views of God, and although right now my beliefs are severely challenged, I still want to believe there is a higher order that created this universe.

However, the dark spots(currently incomprehensible/impossible physics) around the edges of our universe may spark controversy for the possibility of OTHER universes. And I thought infinity was big enough already :lol:

My spirit is constantly learning. I will not blindly believe anymore. I need to KNOW. Which is why my theistic beliefs are challenged.


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Re: atheism is small minded. [Re: koods]
    #18818010 - 09/09/13 07:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think my annology of lust and love for the imaginary and fake is more appropriate. :drunkdriver:


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Re: atheism is small minded. [Re: TwinEclipse]
    #18818016 - 09/09/13 07:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Belief in god doesn't teach you anything people haven't already learned through experience and investigation of the world we live in. I'm not sure why you think hope and love have any relationship to a particular belief.




I believe hope and love demonstrate the CONNECTED nature between us(humans, respect for animals, organisms) and the future(hope).

See, thing is, atheism isn't enough to fulfill my sense of completeness(not a word?). I have been brought up with varying views of God, and although right now my beliefs are severely challenged, I still want to believe there is a higher order that created this universe.

However, the dark spots(currently incomprehensible/impossible physics) around the edges of our universe may spark controversy for the possibility of OTHER universes. And I thought infinity was big enough already :lol:

My spirit is constantly learning. I will not blindly believe anymore. I need to KNOW. Which is why my theistic beliefs are challenged.



Theism is for philistines


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Re: atheism is small minded. [Re: koods]
    #18818024 - 09/09/13 07:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Gotta think of the big picture.


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Re: atheism is small minded. [Re: Eggtimer]
    #18818030 - 09/09/13 07:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Gotta think of the big picture.





Did you steal that from a knight?


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Re: atheism is small minded. [Re: ModestMouse]
    #18818757 - 09/09/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm God rich kid I'll decide what is and isn't.



My favorite part about you is that you consistently shitpost in every religious thread thus destroying the thread so no one has to deal with it.



I don't post in religious threads rich kid let me make the decisions not that you have a choice.


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Re: atheism is small minded. [Re: UnholyChild666]
    #18818822 - 09/09/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

what is OP on about? Does he realize atheism is no belief system, philosophy, or anything else?

Next he's gonna bitch about 'OFF' being the worst tv channel ever.


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Re: atheism is small minded. [Re: UnholyChild666]
    #18818829 - 09/09/13 12:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Is "rich kid" some kind of literary tic, the way people use "like" or "umm?"


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what is OP on about? Does he realize atheism is no belief system, philosophy, or anything else?

Next he's gonna bitch about 'OFF' being the worst tv channel ever.




Very nice analogy,  :super:


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Re: atheism is small minded. [Re: Eggtimer]
    #18818877 - 09/09/13 01:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)


The Nickle (Ni) is taken. Have to go with midenismós (Mi).


Edited by pmoseman (09/09/13 01:28 PM)


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Re: atheism is small minded. [Re: koods] * 1
    #18818884 - 09/09/13 01:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Accepted definition my ass. No such thing. to if someone asks if I am an atheist I will say no and I will not say that I am an atheist. That is my prerogative. I have my own motives and you don't get to tell me what I am. Everyone has their own lexicon; only rain man has webster in his head. don't even try arguing this point with me guys. you will only make yourselves look ignorant




You don't get to choose the definition of words in your vocabulary regardless of what you think.  What you're really saying here is, don't bother arguing with me, because I'm going to twist the meaning of words until they fit my purposes.  You seem to enjoy crediting yourself as some kind of linguistics expert yet your posts are generally rambling and awkwardly verbose.

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However there is certainly logical deductions that can be done with all human knowledge and the tenets of theistic doctrines. Unless you manipulate the theistic doctrines to something that solely resides in pockets of ignorance, it's pretty obvious humans have been wrong about divinity for all of history. I mean when you study any theistic doctrine most of them are heavily rooted in completely human ideas with the caveat that paradoxes = divinity which just means that what is incomprehensible we assume is some magical entity. If you study history, humans have always used religion to fill in the gaps of knowledge. So in my mind anything someone else says about religion or god, unless confirmed by my own experience, is more of a projection of their own mind than a verifiable conclusion of anything "divine".




:congrats:

Nothing further really needs to be said beyond that eloquent statement.


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Re: atheism is small minded. [Re: idiotek]
    #18818897 - 09/09/13 01:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Everyone has their own lexicon




Ahhhh. That's not how it is supposed to work. A lexicon is what everybody agrees upon, pretty much the opposite of what you think it is.


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Re: atheism is small minded. [Re: koods]
    #18818907 - 09/09/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I remember when I wasted time with silly discussions like this.  :thumbup:


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