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Re: Schizophrenia and spirituality [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #18817323 - 09/08/13 11:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Cool Aphex Twin song, I've never heard it before. Very trippy.


There is one song that was, is and always will be my psychosis and that is this:


I'm just the shadow of a bigger man
Glowing brighter with each year I am
I was standing on a mountain
Just looking down (on you on you)

It's like my daddy said
You gotta use your head (my body won't work for nobody but me, son)
Yeah, no one said that I aim to please

All your light can't save me
All your light all your light can't save me
I won't wait though my time may come
I can't wait, I can't wait
My time may come (my body won't work for nobody but me, son)

As a boy I had it figured out
There are things that you can't live without
But money, it's sad but true, would surely top that list
And your rules your rules, well they would not be missed

Well I became
Whole again
Cause no one said no one said no one said
There'd be times like these

I said all your light can't save me
All your light all your light can't save me
I won't wait though my time may come
I can't wait, I can't wait
My time may come

(my body won't work for nobody but me, son)
No one said there'd be times like these
(my body won't work for nobody but me, son)
No one said there'd be times like these
(my body won't work for nobody but me, son)
No one said there'd be times like these
(my body won't work for nobody but me, son)
Well, no one said there'd be times like these

I was licking flames, when I broke your reins
Still, no one said no one said no one said it'd be suicide

All your light can't save me
All your light, all your light can't save me
I won't wait though my time may come
I can't wait, I can't wait
My time may come

(my body won't work for nobody but me, son)
No one said there'd be times like these
(my body won't work for nobody but me, son)
No one said there'd be times like these

All your light can't save me
All your light, all your light can't save me
I won't wait though my time may come
I can't wait, I can't wait
My time may come


I don't care what anything thinks of Portugal. The Man, this song is amazing. On the surface the lyrics appear nonsensical  but when you are in that deep dark psychotic chapel perilous place this song has soooo much meaning. All Your Light, was, is and will always be the soundtrack to my insanity. When I first heard this song when I was psychotic it was like nothing I had ever experienced before. It was like the song was completely tuned into my wavelength.

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It seems to me that there are frequencies, levels or dimensions of reality and your brain is like a tuning device. This is from direct experience, I'm aware of it now, this is not speculation or wishful thinking. I'm always going into different frequencies.





This^. Hit the nail on the fucking head man. Our brain is capable of tuning into infinite different existing realities or or  pieces of several different realities put together because ourr brain is the anchor on which infinite different spiritual realities are reflected onto the material world. This is because our brain creates the reality we experience.  Sixth circuit metaprograming/ reality selection 101. Skeptical? Or maybe you see it as plausible on a theoretical level but never something that could be put into practice? Download my favourite program: PMA, the positive mental attitude. It is the most benign and one of my first successful metaprograms. I've used it in everything from psychosis to depression to shroom trips to just living. It is a good way to make it onto the fifth circuit.

If you find you can't get any good information on the eight-circuit model, that is because of shit like this:

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No u havent navigated "all eight"

These things are reserved for the coming golden age.

My favourite is the 5th neurosomatic gear. Its great and i mean it.

And no : "i tried my 5th circuit when me and my buds smoked some weed" you havent tried it yet trust me, youd be raving here about it non stop if u have.

No, 5th circuit will be activated my a member of 8th dimensional galactic federation council when the time is right.





:lol::lol::lol:


Two big misconceptions about the eight circuit model are:

1) You have to use drugs to navigate the circuits. Not true. Taking drugs are just an easy way to temporarily visit these circuits. Drugs can help but they can also hinder if one deludes themself into thinking that they achieved a circuit when they haven't made any real changes to their life except taking drugs. Take drugs, don't take drugs choice is yours but make those authentic change and activate those circuits.

2) Activating a circuit isn't like achieving a new belt in ju-jitsu. It is more like learning a new skill. They are set up in a hierarchy out of convenience to a reader and to acquiesce to the limits of a 2D page. Think of it more as eight separate intelligences. The reason the lower 4 circuits should be activated first is that each lower circuit corresponds to a higher circuits.
1 - 5
2- 6
3- 7
4 - 8
So it is wise to have a firm basis in each material  circuit before exploring the spiritual ones. If you want more info or think I am full of shit :wink: read this book.

I hope this helps some aspiring karma mechanic.


As for weed, I can't smoke it anymore. This winter I smoked a fair amount and it caused me start astrally projecting when I was conscious. I am serious. I would be watch a movie and my awareness would drift out of body and explore the theater. At first it was cool but then it started happening all the time. No control to it. So I switched anti-psychotics and it went away. I also smoked in the spring but at a reduced amount but it only brought me up to 80% then I would fall to -20% and feel like shit. I sat down and had a reality check with myself and determined that there is nothing for me in this drug (THC) anymore. So I  dug a hole and buried all my paraphernalia in the woods and quit. Haven't smoked in months

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Re: Schizophrenia and spirituality [Re: Psilopsychosis]
    #18817708 - 09/09/13 02:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't care what anything thinks of Portugal. The Man, this song is amazing. On the surface the lyrics appear nonsensical  but when you are in that deep dark psychotic chapel perilous place this song has soooo much meaning. All Your Light, was, is and will always be the soundtrack to my insanity. When I first heard this song when I was psychotic it was like nothing I had ever experienced before. It was like the song was completely tuned into my wavelength.




This reminds me. I am in process of listening to this GREAT powerful interview about the experiences of this guy, Mike Cornwall, who had 'psychosis' and an important part of his healing came after reading a quote from the Bible. He said he wasn't Christian and still isn't but the words and meaning of what he read REALLY touched a deepness in his which inspired his healing:
"Come unto me all ye who are laboured and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest"
"There was something numinous in these words which spoke directly to my condition...And that was the turning point." Madness Radio: Madness and Renewal Michael Cornwall


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Re: Schizophrenia and spirituality [Re: zzripz]
    #18819399 - 09/09/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Zzipz Said:
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This reminds me. I am in process of listening to this GREAT powerful interview about the experiences of this guy, Mike Cornwall, who had 'psychosis' and an important part of his healing came after reading a quote from the Bible. He said he wasn't Christian and still isn't but the words and meaning of what he read REALLY touched a deepness in his which inspired his healing:
"Come unto me all ye who are laboured and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest"
"There was something numinous in these words which spoke directly to my condition...And that was the turning point." Madness Radio: Madness and Renewal Michael Cornwall





:thumbup:

I found the book of John very inspirational and helpful towards my recovery. In my mind you don't have to be Christian(or Jewish) to find meaning in the bible.


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Re: Schizophrenia and spirituality [Re: Psilopsychosis]
    #18820985 - 09/09/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you're not onto it already you should really pay attention to the fact that your mind is co-creating reality. It's makes life vastly more interesting. You appear to go into "worlds" where no one has been.


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Re: Schizophrenia and spirituality [Re: circastes]
    #18821025 - 09/09/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Like just take the obvious example of this forum. How many states of mind have you been in on this forum and thus seen it as either a hive of really interesting activity or a mediocre place filled with drug users?

This forum is really your creation. Your creation is just really convincing so it looks like the real thing.

So take that a bit further, put some music on and absorb into it. Doesn't the flow of things around you change? Somehow the mind is doing half or more than half of the show.


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Re: Schizophrenia and spirituality [Re: circastes]
    #18821094 - 09/09/13 10:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I completely understand this man. The shroomery is a great example.

Do you have any tips for someone who would like to develop this skill further?


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Re: Schizophrenia and spirituality [Re: Psilopsychosis]
    #18821463 - 09/10/13 12:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think it is linear so you can't linearly approach it. It's kind of magical or mysterious, often these whole other created scenes of what was previously just my backyard but is now a perfectly lucid construct of some kind sneak up on me, it seems to be a simple act of being particularly open, in the present, to anything. Leary said we should stay in a "chaotic, open-minded, vulnerable state in order to inform ourselves about what reality is."

McKenna said "if you do not perturb consciousness, it gives a reflective mirror image of what reality actually is." It may be that occasionally I just get my mind unperturbed and then glance around and voila something new. This would suggest meditation is great; the more still your mind is in general the better the image of reality you will receive.

But still here I do not really explain to myself how for instance I was driving down the road the other day and it was all just a big trip, I even looked like I was tripping in the rear view mirror.

It seems to be a kind of magic, the universe may operate upon it.

tl;dr: magic is real.


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Re: Schizophrenia and spirituality [Re: circastes]
    #18821827 - 09/10/13 02:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

QFT


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Re: Schizophrenia and spirituality [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #18821962 - 09/10/13 03:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:

I enjoy Circastes' rants.

Too many people round here deny the "magical" element of life (myself included)

I couldn't rant like him because I just don't know..And I don't think you know either Circastes but I enjoy your rhetoric in attempting to explain the unexplainable :cheers:


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Re: Schizophrenia and spirituality [Re: cez]
    #18822022 - 09/10/13 04:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You can talk to the visual code you see manifesting.


Over the past year I've slowly developed the ability to 'surf' the psychonautical waters by sending thought-signals to the pattern. Within the pattern is the ability to pull yourself into particular states of being.


What you must realise is that the entire thing is a psychedelic trip from beginning to end. Just like psychedelics when you first start taking them, it's as if you are just being battered around by the waves but then over time you may come to understand that the ripples that little you sends out moment by moment, these are what themselves create the huge waves that sweep you. Over time learn to slow down the mind so you can get more fine-grained and subtler ripples sent out and there you will find all the magic of reality firmly embedded in geometry itself, all you need is a good knowledge of geometry and I don't mean the "here's a cube, this is a triangle" type thinking but the geometry of emotion, energy-motion. At the most subtle levels it does come down to cubes'n'triangles but let's begin with an understanding of ourselves as both the Big Bang and this 3D emanation which is the surface/front of the cosmic explosion, of which the body is a part.


The body is a pixel on a 2D canvas, the 2D canvas (edge of the observable universe) itself is represented as the 3D hologram you see. Learning how the 2+1D canvas moves and generates the 3+1D hologram, that is to say learning how time passes in the 3+1D by a time-mediated response to a timeless decision (Nature/the Past) in the 2+1D mind-flow will unlock the entire 'magic' of reality, it is all science. Everything is holographic and when you realise that a fly contains your entire life from beginning to end in each and every single one of its particles, and you contain the life of the fly, and you both contain the entire universe and the lives and happenings of all therein, that is the beginning of coming out of the mundanity matrix, of bullshit, assholes, morons and drudgery and needless pain. Reality is truly magical and you do not need an overseer on your own plantation, they themselves are the rebels as we are the Divine Self.


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"Everything there is, and all that there is, is a Pattern of unspeakable proportion. The Pattern contains everything that is, completely fixed in succession, all the minimal particles interconnected in every way that is. Every way that is is not every conceivable way, because not everything that can be conceived is manifest in the pattern."

"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

"If boring drudgery was the way of the universe, everything would have killed itself long ago." - Spacerific


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Re: Schizophrenia and spirituality [Re: crkhd]
    #18822109 - 09/10/13 06:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't really know but I'm getting some good results from whatever my brain is doing. It's good fun!


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Re: Schizophrenia and spirituality [Re: circastes]
    #18822187 - 09/10/13 06:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If you're not onto it already you should really pay attention to the fact that your mind is co-creating reality. It's makes life vastly more interesting. You appear to go into "worlds" where no one has been.





I remember walking around and meditating with some of my friends and I entered this intense depersonalised kind of DMT trip state brought on entirely by the conversational flow. I came out of it as soon as I went in, a little while later. The difference between that level and "sober" was incredible, like being on an entirely different planet altogether which happened to look the same.



It feels like in those states you could affect a tiny little change in your Self or the environment and that would significantly change your future if done correctly. For instance after that particular day I later had another day where I was looking for acid and just as all hope seemed to disappear, a faint glimmer within said "one more try, this time you WILL get it, if you do not try now, you won't but if you do, you WILL" with a sense of urgency, and so I did and ended up racing as hard as I could to get to the guy who gave the impression of being time-critical and it ended up being one of the most intense and life-altering trips I've ever had, did I mention this was a single tab :lol:


Then I saw from that how I could be sitting in a little box and if somehow I knew how to, just by breathing you could alter the entire universe. But as for the meaning of it, an atheist would say that there is no way to tell or it's co-incidental but from the point of unitary consciousness it's all Self-created.


Magic is a way of telling your Self you deserve something which you once told your Self you did not, but that alone would only point to one half of what Magic truly is


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"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

"If boring drudgery was the way of the universe, everything would have killed itself long ago." - Spacerific


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Re: Schizophrenia and spirituality [Re: CrimpJiggler]
    #18822233 - 09/10/13 07:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The state where everything has deep spiritual meaning below the surface. I remember thinking that what happens in this 3D world is just ripples caused by what is going on in the spiritual world, and that the pain and suffering we feel here (the illusory 3D world), has its source in the spiritual world (the real world) and thinking about how sad it was that everyone is deluded into thinking the source of their pain can be comprehended with the 3D mind and at the same time how awesome it is that this pain is the very thing that ultimately forces us to drop all the pettiness and surface bullshit and see what we are underneath: psychonautical warriors. These experiences were years ago, but I can't shake the feeling that I may have been seeing the truth. Maybe I've been like an ostriche with its head in the sand, and its time to wake the fuck up and remember I'm not confined to this 3D reality thing. Or maybe there is no reality. Maybe we simply exist in the reality, on which frequency we resonate.




I think you are on to some things, CrimpJiggler.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causal_plane


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Re: Schizophrenia and spirituality [Re: NastyDHL]
    #18822319 - 09/10/13 07:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Everything is holographic and when you realise that a fly contains your entire life from beginning to end in each and every single one of its particles, and you contain the life of the fly, and you both contain the entire universe and the lives and happenings of all therein, that is the beginning of coming out of the mundanity matrix, of bullshit, assholes, morons and drudgery and needless pain. Reality is truly magical and you do not need an overseer on your own plantation, they themselves are the rebels as we are the Divine Self.




This is very cool. This is kinda like the organism theory, the idea that everything micro and macrocosmically  is an organism, a reflection of something else. You take this a step farther and say that every particle is an universe. Could you explain this idea a bit more? If you keep writing I will keep reading.


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Re: Schizophrenia and spirituality [Re: Psilopsychosis]
    #18822328 - 09/10/13 07:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I remember when I was psychotic due to not having enough B6 vitamin in my body. It happened year ago.
It was absolute hell, a loophole into darkness. Then I tried to meditate, I sat and couldn't concentrate, then I started thinking about Mooji.
I used to listen to him a lot and get relief before. Then as I began to go deeper into meditation I saw Mooji's face everywhere coming from lotus flower. I felt so blissful and happy at time that I just began to laugh hysterically.
Then my mom came into the room and asked what's up? And I just said basically how stupid I feel. I was laughing non stop for like 30 minutes.
Then in the evening things got worse and I ended up in a ward. But I'm feeling really healthy and positive now.

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Cool Aphex Twin song, I've never heard it before. Very trippy.


There is one song that was, is and always will be my psychosis and that is this:






Really cool song:smile:


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Re: Schizophrenia and spirituality [Re: HeartAndMind]
    #18834250 - 09/12/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Vitamin b6 deficiency? Caused your psychosis you say?
I have never heard of that. Can you please talk more about it? I mean... how to you know know it was vitamins?
Was there no deficiency of sleep or excess stress or drugs involved?

Also If you like that song I would recommend Portugal. The Man's whole "In The Mountain In The Cloud"album. Look up "Floating" or "Sleep Forever".


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    #18835410 - 09/13/13 01:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks:smile: I really dig that band.

How it all happened:

At the time I tried to be vegan, but my mom was against it so I didn't eat enough vegetables and didn't touch meat at all.
It was during 6 months that I tried to be vegan. Then I got into conflict with my coworkers and it was final blow to my psyche.
After the conflict I didn't sleep for two days. Meanwhile I tried to meditate, but changes from meditation were temporary.
So I got transported into the ward and they took sample from my backbone and found out that I had very little B6 vitamin.
Then I got injected around 500 ml of B6 in my body for about 7 days and they also fed me olanzapine.
I didn't touch any drugs during that period.


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Re: Schizophrenia and spirituality [Re: HeartAndMind]
    #18846282 - 09/15/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That is wild man. Why did you go vegan instead of vegetarian?

I do not like factory animal farming but it is just so much easier to get enough calories if you eat animal proteins. And another thing to consider is industrial plant farming. Cutting down rain forest for corn, banana and sugar cane fields. Manically evil Monsanto and its roundup and terminator seeds. Aquifer in Kansas running dry. Almost complete depletion of world phosphorous reserves. What used to arable farmland turning into desert in China, Africa, the mid-west USA  and South America. Fucking preservatives.

So I honestly think that unless you are rich and get your food from fair trade, organic and/or local sources you are not much better off then anyone else as a vegan.(IMO)

So how are you doing now?

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Re: Schizophrenia and spirituality [Re: Psilopsychosis]
    #18847088 - 09/15/13 11:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I thought vegan and vegetarian are same. I was vegetarian not vegan.

Yeah, I don't like factory farming either, it makes me sad to think about it.

I'm doing good, thanks for asking. Thinking about moving out of country now because it's hard to set up own life here.
Probably will go somewhere to Scandinavia if possibility will be open.

Just listened to their song 'Feels Like We Only Go Backwards'. Really nice psychedelic rock :smile:

How are you doing?


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