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My First Grow [Monotub Log]
#18808441 - 09/06/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is my first attempt at cube cultivation. I wanted to first thank everyone in this community for the incredible amount of information available.
On to the grow.
I started with a spore print of berma. Transfered in open air to a syringe. I inoculated 4 quart jars of organic rye berries. Once fully colonized I g2g the 4 into 40 jars in a glovebox I made.

Once fully colonized I use the Elementary Coir tek to make 7 mono tubs. I dumped about 3/4+ of the substrate into the tubs, dumped in spawn and mixed it up very evenly, flattened it out smooth, then added the remaining substrate and flattened it smooth. I would have made 8 but one of my jars got trich, now I have 4 colonized jars sitting around.
I made one/two monotubs a day till I had them all. So they are currently at various stages of colonization.

I will update this thread and OP as I continue.
One problem I'm having is a tub starting to fruit before fully colonizing. Should I wait or take the tape off to introduce fruiting conditions?


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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: BlackieChan]
#18808528 - 09/06/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Did you use a top later of coir to cover the grains? If you did then maybe that's why that one is pinning because everything under that layer may be fully colonized. If that's the case I would definitely introduce fruiting conditions. One other thing I want to point out is the horrible results I had with those purple tubs once. When you introduce fruiting conditions to those you should lose purple lids and replace them with press and seal.
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: bulkgrownoob]
#18808576 - 09/06/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just found this on a website about lighting principles:
" Lets say we have a blue box. When light hits the box, all of the wavelengths are absorbed except for blue, which is reflected. This is why we see the box as blue."
The light required by mushrooms for pinning is in the blue spectrum. Those purple boxes are too close to that spectrum and reflect the blue spectrum of light instead of absorbing it/allowing it to pass through
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: BlackieChan]
#18808588 - 09/06/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have this theory about the premature pinning. The tub was on top and I'm thinking that without the weight of other tubs on top of it, it was getting to much FAE through the loose fitting lid. I transfered the tub to the bottom of the stack and 16 hours later the new top has a pin emerging. Now the new top is the most colonized so it might be a coincidence.
So if this is the case should i throw some weights on top of the top tubs?
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: bulkgrownoob]
#18808605 - 09/06/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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bulkgrownoob said: Did you use a top later of coir to cover the grains? If you did then maybe that's why that one is pinning because everything under that layer may be fully colonized. If that's the case I would definitely introduce fruiting conditions. One other thing I want to point out is the horrible results I had with those purple tubs once. When you introduce fruiting conditions to those you should lose purple lids and replace them with press and seal.
I did add a top later, and I adjusted my OP according. As to the purple tubs, I went to 4 Wal-Marts and couldn't find anything else so I gave up. I figured I would try and if the results aren't up to par I will replace them.
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bulkgrownoob said: Just found this on a website about lighting principles:
" Lets say we have a blue box. When light hits the box, all of the wavelengths are absorbed except for blue, which is reflected. This is why we see the box as blue."
The light required by mushrooms for pinning is in the blue spectrum. Those purple boxes are too close to that spectrum and reflect the blue spectrum of light instead of absorbing it/allowing it to pass through
I completely agree with this concept. I'm just hoping that since the tubs are transparent and not a solid color and that they are closer to the red of purple than the blue that enough of the blue spectrum will be allowed through.
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: BlackieChan]
#18808653 - 09/06/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can't see the clear bins too well in the pics but are those the sterilite bins with latching lids? That's what myself and most people on here use and never have premature pinning in bins without anything weighing them down. And as far as the purple bins I'm just trying to help you with what I suggested.. You can try if you'd like without altering the lids but there was a time when I had 5 purple bins, 5 light green ones(same kind as the purple) and 5 clear ones. The clear and light green all gave me 4+ oz dry each. Purples gave me about 7-14g each
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: bulkgrownoob]
#18810125 - 09/07/13 12:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: BlackieChan]
#18810291 - 09/07/13 02:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've read that if it pins you should fruit it. Don't know enough to tell you why it pinned but ya, just fruit those IMO. You can use a spawn:substrate of even 1:10, so you could use those leftover jars. Or just throw them in some dirt and see what happens. Best of luck!
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: BlackieChan]
#18810297 - 09/07/13 02:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sweet grow. Did you keep them in the dark when the tubs were colonising?
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: Chilled]
#18811082 - 09/07/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Did you use a top later of coir to cover the grains? If you did then maybe that's why that one is pinning because everything under that layer may be fully colonized. If that's the case I would definitely introduce fruiting conditions. One other thing I want to point out is the horrible results I had with those purple tubs once. When you introduce fruiting conditions to those you should lose purple lids and replace them with press and seal.
The light required by mushrooms for pinning is in the blue spectrum. Those purple boxes are too close to that spectrum and reflect the blue spectrum of light instead of absorbing it/allowing it to pass through
no. just no. The monotubs in my sig are blue. Point disproven.
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I've read that if it pins you should fruit it. Don't know enough to tell you why it pinned but ya, just fruit those IMO. You can use a spawn:substrate of even 1:10, so you could use those leftover jars. Or just throw them in some dirt and see what happens. Best of luck!
Good God. Please don't post if you don't know what you're talking about. Throw them in some dirt and see what happens? 
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I have this theory about the premature pinning. The tub was on top and I'm thinking that without the weight of other tubs on top of it, it was getting to much FAE through the loose fitting lid. I transfered the tub to the bottom of the stack and 16 hours later the new top has a pin emerging. Now the new top is the most colonized so it might be a coincidence.
Light isn't your problem. Please, don't take everything you read on here to heart. Half of it is incorrect and you're gonna get yourself in trouble trying to follow bad advice.
Your theory here with the FAE is what I was going to say. A substrate will only produce fruit when there is some sort of air exchange, even the slightest.
One thing you could try if you're using a trash bag liner to reduce side pinning is to cut the bag after full colonization. Just tie the bag shut (it doesn't have to be tight) right after you mix the spawn and right before you set the tub into colonization, set the lid on the monotub and then wait. You're pretty much guaranteed that you won't have early FAE in order to make up for those loose lids.
As a temporary solution, you could set your tubs individually inside a trash bag and tie it shut? Not sure how far you are on colonization by the pictures, so I'm not sure that will have any effect this late in the game.
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So if this is the case should i throw some weights on top of the top tubs?
If the tubs are stacked and the top tub is the only one showing pins then yes, this is what I would do. Remember not to open them before full colonization or you're setting yourself up for failure, whether it's contamination or early pinning.
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If you're tub is fruiting before full colonization than it is most likely contamed. Probably bacteria. You can and should go ahead and put it into fruiting conditions.
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Remember not to open them before full colonization or you're setting yourself up for failure, whether it's contamination or early pinning
This is incorrect. You can open it up to take a peek or a pic. It will not hurt a thing
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I've read that if it pins you should fruit it. Don't know enough to tell you why it pinned but ya, just fruit those IMO. You can use a spawn:substrate of even 1:10, so you could use those leftover jars. Or just throw them in some dirt and see what happens. Best of luck!
Good God. Please don't post if you don't know what you're talking about. Throw them in some dirt and see what happens? 
I was just throwing out an idea, not a recommended strategy. I did it and it give me fruits and it's fun to see them grow outdoors. But the extra jars he has is off-topic so nevermind.
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: verbineus]
#18812834 - 09/07/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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thank you all for the responses.
it's good to hear about the blue monotubs growing, that's a relief.
the premature pins won't stop growing so I introduced fruiting conditions.


Polyfil and oscillating fan.

Hoping for the best.
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Chilled said: Sweet grow. Did you keep them in the dark when the tubs were colonising?
No i kept them as is. They are in my bedroom because I have no where else to put them. I have CFL lights that are on intermittently through out the day, as well as sunlight coming in indirectly through the closed blinds on my windows.
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: BlackieChan]
#18812850 - 09/07/13 08:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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BlackieChan said:
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: Stromrider]
#18814243 - 09/08/13 07:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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psillyshroomer said: If you're tub is fruiting before full colonization than it is most likely contamed. Probably bacteria. You can and should go ahead and put it into fruiting conditions.
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Remember not to open them before full colonization or you're setting yourself up for failure, whether it's contamination or early pinning
This is incorrect. You can open it up to take a peek or a pic. It will not hurt a thing
Maybe you didn't understand. Remember not to open them your tubs before full colonization.
It will hurt something. It will hurt the substrate's chance to reach full colonization before pins show up. Which is in some terms failure because the main pinning triggers are 100% colonization, introduction of FAE, and evaporation off the substrate which comes with FAE.
Your substrate may not completely fail because of opening the tub before full colonization, but you will cut short the potential that substrate has because it's missing part of the equation for best results (100% colonization). Think about it, you won't receive any sort of even pinset from a substrate which isn't fully colonized.
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psillyshroomer said: If you're tub is fruiting before full colonization than it is most likely contamed. Probably bacteria. You can and should go ahead and put it into fruiting conditions.
Midnight Cyclone said:
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Remember not to open them before full colonization or you're setting yourself up for failure, whether it's contamination or early pinning
This is incorrect. You can open it up to take a peek or a pic. It will not hurt a thing
Maybe you didn't understand. Remember not to open them your tubs before full colonization.
It will hurt something. It will hurt the substrate's chance to reach full colonization before pins show up. Which is in some terms failure because the main pinning triggers are 100% colonization, introduction of FAE, and evaporation off the substrate which comes with FAE.
Your substrate may not completely fail because of opening the tub before full colonization, but you will cut short the potential that substrate has because it's missing part of the equation for best results (100% colonization). Think about it, you won't receive any sort of even pinset from a substrate which isn't fully colonized.
Whatever you say dude. I'm not in the mood to argue this early. Btw I understood you just fine.
You should read this. A lot of good info here: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18784975#18784975
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: Stromrider]
#18814289 - 09/08/13 08:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Whatever you say dude. I'm not in the mood to argue this early.
Why can't I have a discussion without someone thinking I am trying to argue? You tried to disprove a statement I made, and I did the same thing to you.
Thank you for that link btw, it will help answer the OP's question. You should have just posted that in the first place instead of "arguing" with me. 
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Should I wait or take the tape off to introduce fruiting conditions?
From FrankHorrigan himself: (the link that psilly posted)
â– Pinning before full colonization is a sign that the mycelium can't find any more "food" to consume. This is usually indicative of contamination.
â– If your bulk substrate is pinning prior to full colonization, you can and should put it into fruiting conditions.
â– A good way to test a spawn jar for contams is to break it up at full colonization and not open it. Check it in 48 hours and see if it has recovered properly. If not, toss it.

EDIT: the first bullet is in assumption that you have a proper tub with no FAE during the colonization period.
â– Bulk substrate is less nutritious than PF cakes and can be fruited at 100%. As fresh air is the number one pinning trigger, it is important to give it what it needs as soon as possible for best results.
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Sorry you will have to excuse me this morning. I am kind of tired and grumpy. I got a new puppy that refuses to let me sleep
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: Stromrider]
#18814305 - 09/08/13 08:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Frank just made that list of tips and tricks the other day. I think it is genius. It is all answers of the most common mycology ques on here. It should be in bold letters at the top of the cult forum. I kind of feel like a douche when I link someone to it but I feel like people should take a look. It is good stuff man!
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: Stromrider]
#18815748 - 09/08/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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These are growing pretty fast. I'm upset about the non-even pinset, but it's my first time so I'm not too worried.

Also I'm getting side pins from not using a liner.
 
When making the tubs I was thinking I could take a short cut and tape the outside, then I learned that it's not the light triggering the pins. That's why the other tubs have no tape. With my next grow I'm going to use liners. I will be taking a live tissue sample from a large mushroom and making some liquid culture.
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: BlackieChan]
#18815755 - 09/08/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Definitely use a liner next time and definitely don't make an lc. Lc's are too sketchy man. Get you some agar and petri dishes.
Hell you'd be better off taking tissue straight to grain than you would lc
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: Stromrider]
#18815797 - 09/08/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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psillyshroomer said: Definitely use a liner next time and definitely don't make an lc. Lc's are too sketchy man. Get you some agar and petri dishes.
Hell you'd be better off taking tissue straight to grain than you would lc
I was thinking I'd make one of those master cultures with karo or honey, and make some working cultures from them. I like using syringes and the idea of innoculating 40 jars at once sounds awesome to me. What is it about them that you don't like? I haven't heard anything negative yet.
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: BlackieChan]
#18815816 - 09/08/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well the main thing is that if an Lc is contamed you can not see it.
Also all you really need is one coloinzed grain jar then you can use it to make 10 to 15 more jars doing g2g transfers. It is a super fast way to increase your stock culture. Even faster than inoculating with a lc
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: Stromrider]
#18815842 - 09/08/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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psillyshroomer said: Well the main thing is that if an Lc is contamed you can not see it.
I thought if you used all clear ingredients you could see it? I assume the main contaminates are green and black? I also hate ordering online and paying shipping, not mention I'm very careful (paranoid) and buy all my supplies in cash from separate stores, so I am wanting to avoid buying petri dishes and dextrose/agar online. Any suggestions where to buy locally?
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yeah that's what I did with this grow. I took 4 jars into 40. They colonized pretty fast, not sure on time because I'm too busy to check every day. Which is why the set and forget strategy was exactly what I needed. I just remember checking and about half the jars were done and the other half were about 80%.
One jar did get trich in a small spot, i shook it and it recolonized in a day but i destroyed it anyway to be safe. The last thing i wanted was to make a tub, have it grow a bunch of trich while I was away, and cover my house in spores.
Now I'm wondering if I should take my 4 remaining fully colonized jars left over and make another 40? Or if I want to wait and use a clone. I'm not too familiar with strain isolation but I think the community is pretty in unison about the benefits so I want to try it out.
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: BlackieChan]
#18815861 - 09/08/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Taking tissue straight to grain can work but you have to have excellent sterile procedure. There is a mushroom cultivation shop near where I live in Asheville NC where I buy all my agar supplies. He has a website and can ship you stuff discretely. You can also call him and do it over the phone
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: Stromrider]
#18815875 - 09/08/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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psillyshroomer said: Taking tissue straight to grain can work but you have to have excellent sterile procedure. There is a mushroom cultivation shop near where I live in Asheville NC where I buy all my agar supplies. He has a website and can ship you stuff discretely. You can also call him and do it over the phone
what's his website?
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: BlackieChan]
#18815886 - 09/08/13 04:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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His website is fungiasheville. Com
I think I also forgot to mention that working with your culture on agar is fun as hell
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: Stromrider]
#18817000 - 09/08/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, you learn pretty quickly that side pins can be a pain and IMO are generally best to avoid.
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With my next grow I'm going to use liners.

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I will be taking a live tissue sample from a large mushroom and making some liquid culture.
Just be careful with LCs. You have to test them to make sure they're not contaminated. Test them on a small number of jars as to eliminate the potential of ruining an entire batch of jars.
You should look into agar man. Agar is best practice and will give you better results grow to grow if you can learn to isolate and whatnot. I say you should learn agar for the sole purpose of knowing you have a clean set of inoculant. Then you don't have to worry about contams from any sort of syringe or LC.
I'm still not into agar, and I do use LCs. Just saying you must be pretty sterile while using an LC and also making sure you're on the right track to success with agar to look forward to.
Keep up the fresh air and the updates
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This came out of no where today!
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: BlackieChan]
#18817105 - 09/08/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Definitely trich.
So contamination was the culprit.
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Quarantine that tub in hopes of not spreading trich to your others.
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I harvested the tub and threw it out. I actually dumped the cake in my back yard just to see what will happen to it. I put the cubes I harvested in my dehydrator.
Now a bunch of other tubs are pinning before full colonization. If my whole crop is contaminated that is really going to suck. Idk what I did wrong. I followed the damion coir tek exactly. It might have been that one of my cats pawed the polyfil out of a hole in the tub. I didn't notice trich till after that. who knows.
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: BlackieChan]
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I'm surprised my cat hasn't attacked the polyfill 'toys' on my tub. Man, that sucks. Well at least you got a little bit of fruit out of it and you live to try again another day. I used Frank's tek to pasteurize the coir/verm and knock on wood no contam yet. Had a small 1st flush and just letting it rest before dunking and seeing what happens on flush 2
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: druranium]
#18817790 - 09/09/13 04:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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You guys it doesn't matter if the polyfill falls out of the holes you the cat paws it out or whatever. Properly pasteurized substrate is contam resistant. When mine starts to pin I leave one of the holes open. I also take the lid off daily to peek.
Blackie just water that sub that you threw in the back yard daily and you should still get some nice fruits off of it
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: BlackieChan]
#18817822 - 09/09/13 04:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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BlackieChan said: I started with a spore print of berma. Transfered in open air to a syringe. I inoculated 4 quart jars of organic rye berries. Once fully colonized I g2g the 4 into 40 jars in a glovebox I made.
Open air = fail.
Why would you make your syringe in open air if you had a SAB for G2G? Anyway be sure to use your SAB for that kind of work and you will have better success. Also agar is the shit, get it going ASAP
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: Pastywhyte]
#18817824 - 09/09/13 04:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: Pastywhyte]
#18817856 - 09/09/13 05:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said:
Open air = fail.
Why would you make your syringe in open air if you had a SAB for G2G? Anyway be sure to use your SAB for that kind of work and you will have better success. Also agar is the shit, get it going ASAP 
Hadn't made the glove box yet.
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: BlackieChan]
#18817884 - 09/09/13 05:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't like your sig blackie.
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: Stromrider]
#18819065 - 09/09/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ha ha, yeah the NSA probably has a special algorithm to seek out drug pics and scan the exif for coordinates. It's already come out that they are sharing info with the DEA. Man, all this stuff that used to be ridiculed as 'paranoid tinfoil hat talk' is reality now.
This is a good free mac app that strips exif: Imageoptim
Good luck w/ your outdoor bed blackie!
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: druranium]
#18819370 - 09/09/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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druranium said: Ha ha, yeah the NSA probably has a special algorithm to seek out drug pics and scan the exif for coordinates. It's already come out that they are sharing info with the DEA. Man, all this stuff that used to be ridiculed as 'paranoid tinfoil hat talk' is reality now.
This is a good free mac app that strips exif: Imageoptim
Good luck w/ your outdoor bed blackie!
another good mac app is opening the picture in preview and taking a screen shot. haha.
and an update, I currently have two tubs in fruiting with an oscillating fan blowing on them.
Where do you think I went wrong making the substrate? The jars colonized perfectly and I tested every single jar by shaking and letting it recolonizing before spawning with it because I was in no hurry.
When preparing the substrate I put a brick of coir into a 5 gallon bucket, added 2 quarts of vermiculite, put the lid on, boiled 4.5 quarts of water, dumped in the bucket and snapped the lid on tight. After 45 minutes I stirred the bucket up and added a digital thermometer on a long wire that I could leave the read-out on top of the bucket. I waited till between 80-90 degrees. I then wiped my tub down with IPA and dumped 3/4 of the bucket, emptied 5 spawn jars into it, mixed it in well with no gloves, even it out, dumped the rest of the substrate, evened it out, and put the lid on. I don't understand what I did wrong.
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: BlackieChan]
#18819383 - 09/09/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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BlackieChan said: another good mac app is opening the picture in preview and taking a screen shot. haha.
That is not only for mac, there is a PrtScrn button on every keyboard that does the same thing.
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: PussyFart]
#18819394 - 09/09/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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BlackieChan said: another good mac app is opening the picture in preview and taking a screen shot. haha.
That is not only for mac, there is a PrtScrn button on every keyboard that does the same thing.
I'm aware. I was just referencing how he phrased it.
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: BlackieChan]
#18820786 - 09/09/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Failed grow is finally cracker dry. 18.5 grams. Meh. Oh well. 6 more tubs to go!
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: BlackieChan]
#18820809 - 09/09/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well I guess it isn't a complete fail then is it
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: Stromrider]
#18821975 - 09/10/13 03:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't feel too bad, your 'failed grow' yielded the same as my 1st flush...just finished drying and weighing and its 18grams. Man I hope the second flush does better...
Who knows exactly why it contam'd.. . The open air syringe does sound risky...but wouldn't you notice the contam in your spawn when it's fully colonized and you open the jars? Can it 'lay dormant'? Lot of people around here say to pasteurize and skip the bucket tek so that's what I did. My underacheiver tub appears to be due to using multispore to innoc and daytime temps being 90+ degrees in my house for the last 2 weeks. Everytime I open the lid it smells wonderful though, so fingers crossed progress marches on!
I didn't even think of taking a screenshot to get rid of exif data So simple!
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: druranium]
#18822984 - 09/10/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah Im gonna pasteurize properly next time. I don't think the contam came from the spawn.
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: BlackieChan]
#18824022 - 09/10/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I had another one contam today.
 
Only got a few little premature shrooms from it. I'm thinking that that bucket coir tek isn't working so well for me. Mold definitely seems to be the cause of the premature pinning. Since both contammed about a day after fruiting conditions I'm beginning to believe that the FAE is helping the mold along. So I think I will be letting the pinheads grow further before introducing fruiting conditions like I did on the first tub, so at least I can harvest more weight before having to dispose them because of right now.
As with my other tubs, only one of the 4 left colonizing doesn't show any signs of premature pinning anywhere on it. I have high hopes that this will be the tub to provide a significant yield.
The other tub in fruiting conditions doesn't show signs of contam yet. fingers crossed!
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: BlackieChan]
#18828877 - 09/11/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The tub in fruiting is still growing and not contaminated! 
These others tubs have some serious side pinning going on, but I'm just gonna let them set for a bit.
 
Now how do you guys pasteurize coir and vermiculite? I have 40 jars but they all half these huge holes in them. Is that a problem?

Also my electric pressure cooker only fits 2 quart jars so I guess I will have to buy something bigger. I need to any way after all the FUN of sterilizing all those 40 jars.
And before anyone says lid holes that big will cause FAE, I have had these in open air in my kitchen for about a month fully colonized and no pins. So I guess it's fine.
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: BlackieChan]
#18829017 - 09/11/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why didn't you get the next batch ready while waiting for monos? Get that perpetual-ness going
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Re: My First Grow [Monotub Log] [Re: Nice Ol Bud]
#18829377 - 09/11/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice Ol Bud said: Why didn't you get the next batch ready while waiting for monos? Get that perpetual-ness going 
Waiting for a fruit to clone. I don't want to buy a syringe.
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