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Re: Awesome gift ideas.... [Re: kr0nik0]
    #19334267 - 12/27/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

But it'll be tougher for engraving or accenting.

But yeah, you're very welcome, bud


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Re: Awesome gift ideas.... [Re: shLong]
    #19334270 - 12/27/13 07:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

But please post them here too if you post them elsewhere. I'd love to see ya the process and/or final piece.


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Re: Awesome gift ideas.... [Re: shLong]
    #19334293 - 12/27/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

what kinda stuff are you thinking about putting in it? I would probably recommend a beeswax finish


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Re: Awesome gift ideas.... [Re: Bambi]
    #19334339 - 12/27/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

For sure shLong. I'll start posting some pictures on this thread as soon as I get started.

I'm still looking on the web for different finishes. I didn't realize there are so many ways to go about it. I've researched a bit on Linseed and Tung oil, as well as Varnish. I'm completely new to this so I'm trying to educate myself on the pros and cons of each one.

I saw you post that you used beeswax on that bowl right? It looked really nice. I want a finish that's not overly shiny. Just a nice matte finish that makes the wood look as natural as possible. Would the beeswax do that?

As far as what I'm putting in it, it's just going to be a little box to keep a couple pipes, papers, and maybe a sectioned off compartment to hold a small bud jar. Basically a little stoner's toolbox lol.
So I'm thinking the base will be around 12"x6" or so.


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Re: Awesome gift ideas.... [Re: kr0nik0]
    #19334414 - 12/27/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

my favorite finish is a 1/3 carnauba wax and 2/3 beeswax mixture.

Another one i like is briwax. I dont particulararly care for varnishes and i have never used the tung oil or linseed oil., I've only used mineral oil, walnut oil, and then the other things i mentioned.


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Re: Awesome gift ideas.... [Re: Bambi]
    #19334639 - 12/27/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That's interesting. Carnauba wax is the same type of of wax that I use to wax my car. So that with the beeswax is the mixture you used for the bowl in your pictures?


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Re: Awesome gift ideas.... [Re: kr0nik0]
    #19334658 - 12/27/13 09:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yeah that is, but make sure it is pure wax and not mixed with nasty stuff..


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Re: Awesome gift ideas.... [Re: Bambi]
    #19334669 - 12/27/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Right on. That's exactly what I'm looking for.
A nice matte finish that really just shows the natural patterns and color of the wood.


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Re: Awesome gift ideas.... [Re: kr0nik0]
    #19336207 - 12/28/13 09:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, the carnauba/bees wax combo comes out a bit shiny, It makes the wood look very clean almost marble like.
I mix the waxes because the carnauba wax is a very hard but brittle wax with a high melting temp, and the bees wax is a bit more malleable and easier to apply. So mixing the two keeps some of the strength of carnauba, but the beeswax keeps the melting temp down and gives more work-ability. And when i mix them, make sure to use more bees than carnauba because the carnauba retains its properties more than the bees.  Also keep in mind that adding this mix or either wax would not dye the wood to bring out the grain. If applied by itself then it will simply show the grain that is already there and not change the coloring of the wood at all. This is also all foodsafe

The briwax, walnut oil, and mineral oil are probably more up your alley as far as the matte goes.
The briwax is a premade wax that is not food safe, but the mixture must have some mineral oil or something in it because unlike the waxes above, it does sorta stain the wood a little bit when applied. It will bring out the grain a bit and end up a nice low key finish. The walnut oil, which is foodsafe, is a naturally drying oil so when applied it will eventually act while it also darkens the wood a little bit. the brand of oil i use (mahoneys mahogany walnut oil i think) dries and strengthens the wood a little when doing so. The mineral oil, also foodsafe and what schLong uses on his cutting boards, is an oil that does not dry naturally, so this finish would need to be reapplied more than the other finishes mentioned. When applied wit will seep into the grain and bring out the colors of the wood already visible without darkening (other than what wetting the wood would do), but the surface mineral oil can be wiped or washed away so reapplying mineral oil periodically keeps the wood protected.

Just my two cents and what ive learned through use and google


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Re: Awesome gift ideas.... [Re: Bambi] * 1
    #19336274 - 12/28/13 09:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:thumbup:
Quality fucking post


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Re: Awesome gift ideas.... [Re: shLong]
    #19336317 - 12/28/13 10:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

shLong said:
:thumbup:
Quality fucking post




Thank you for all the information Bambi. You rock!

I just found a place online that's a couple miles from my house that just specializes in woodworking. About to go by the wood I need. I'm still undecided between oak and walnut. I was looking at walnut last night, and it looks really beautiful. Can't wait to get started on this when I get back home. :awesomenod:


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Re: Awesome gift ideas.... [Re: kr0nik0]
    #19336341 - 12/28/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Oak is easier to match up colors  amongst other oak..
Walnut varies quite  a bit more.


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Re: Awesome gift ideas.... [Re: shLong]
    #19336362 - 12/28/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Alright. I was just looking at pictures last night, and it looked nice. I'll go with the "North American White Oak" I believe it was called. It looked a little bit too light colored for my preference in the pictures, but I guess since it'll darken with the finish it should be perfect.


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mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”



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Re: Awesome gift ideas.... [Re: kr0nik0]
    #19336557 - 12/28/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Also red oak...
Is what I use when I say "oak".
And black walnut


Edited by shLong (12/28/13 11:17 AM)


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Re: Awesome gift ideas.... [Re: shLong]
    #19336661 - 12/28/13 11:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Oh I got you. Well off to the store I go, but before I leave just one more question.

Should I buy a wood glue? If so, is there a brand that you suggest?
Or should I just put it together using a drill and wood-screws?


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the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”



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Re: Awesome gift ideas.... [Re: kr0nik0]
    #19336730 - 12/28/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Nice woodworks in this thread:thumbup:Extra virgin olive oil makes a fine finish on the cutting boards.It leaves a very warm,low gloss finish,is food safe and durable.


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Re: Awesome gift ideas.... [Re: kr0nik0]
    #19336735 - 12/28/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Titebond 2 or 3 glue depending on water proofing needs.
(and clamps)
I use 3 for the cutting boards for the waterproofing needs of them.


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Re: Awesome gift ideas.... [Re: shLong]
    #19336892 - 12/28/13 12:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

For my works, i just use any CA glue, usually a medium, but I actually need some thin for the inlays i do


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Re: Awesome gift ideas.... [Re: Bambi]
    #19340899 - 12/29/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

As far as me selling on etsy, I don't think so.
I looked on there and they have some fucking beautiful work for super cheap (imo)...
I did see one for 500 and even though  I would never spend that sort of money on wood, it's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.



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Re: Awesome gift ideas.... [Re: shLong]
    #19342080 - 12/29/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

damn that is nice i wouldnt wanna cut on it lol


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