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Ibogaine sources
    #18806699 - 09/06/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

After reading about this 'drug,' I'm quite interested in it. I find it rather odd that it is schedule 1 in the usa :rolleyes:

Are there any plants that produce a decent amount of ibogaine, but are legal in america?

Any other tips? thank you


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Re: Ibogaine sources [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18806778 - 09/06/13 09:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think Voacanga africana has some similar alkaloids but I don't recall if it has ibogaine or not.


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Re: Ibogaine sources [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18806783 - 09/06/13 09:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

hello,

Ibogaine comes from the plant tabernanthe ibogaine. But the seeds are verry expensice and have to be completly fresh iff viable. I already paid allot for me seeds but without any luck :frown:. I don't know iff there are other inbogaine producing plants.


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Re: Ibogaine sources [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18806785 - 09/06/13 09:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Pretty sure it only comes from Iboga plants. And why the quotations around "drug"?


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Re: Ibogaine sources [Re: plant-paradise]
    #18806801 - 09/06/13 10:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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hello,

Ibogaine comes from the plant tabernanthe ibogaine. But the seeds are verry expensice and have to be completly fresh iff viable. I already paid allot for me seeds but without any luck :frown:. I don't know iff there are other inbogaine producing plants.



Well on the Wikipedia page about ibogaine, a couple other plants are listed. I just can't find what percentage of ibogaine is in any of them, so as to calculate relative potency.

Quotes around drug because the only thing I've read about it is use to treat opiate addiction. And most psychedelics don't really fit the term 'drug' for me completely either :shrug:

And for me 'this' and "this" are different. two sets of quotes means a literal direct quote, one set means not totally literal quoting.


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Re: Ibogaine sources [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18806819 - 09/06/13 10:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Either way ibogaine definitely qualifies as a drug.


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Re: Ibogaine sources [Re: psi]
    #18806827 - 09/06/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Either way ibogaine definitely qualifies as a drug.



What makes you say that? Again, I don't know much about it, but I was surprised that it was scheduled in the US


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Re: Ibogaine sources [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18806828 - 09/06/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Tabernaemontana undulata also contains Ibogaine however most likely in lower quantities. There are sources for BOTH seeds domestically if you use google you will find them.

These 'legal' plants are illegal if you intend on consuming them or have dry material around. T.Pachanoi, Mimosa, and other plants are in a gray zone. Legal to grow as ornamental plant however you MAY be charged with production/manufacturing of a Schedule I drug if they wanted to prosecute you.


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Re: Ibogaine sources [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18806837 - 09/06/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's pretty new. It was a psychedelic used by Africans before anything else, stuff can be really intense too. But you'll probably have to find some illegal vendor to send it to you. I don't know if you could even grow it very well in this climate either.


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Re: Ibogaine sources [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18806847 - 09/06/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Either way ibogaine definitely qualifies as a drug.



What makes you say that? Again, I don't know much about it, but I was surprised that it was scheduled in the US



It sounds like you are equating the word drug with something more like "recreational drug" or something. A drug is just a non-food substance that alters the body's functioning. Ibogaine definitely does that so it's a drug. So are aspirin and penicillin, although neither are "recreational" or even psychoactive.


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Re: Ibogaine sources [Re: psi]
    #18806859 - 09/06/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
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psi said:
Either way ibogaine definitely qualifies as a drug.



What makes you say that? Again, I don't know much about it, but I was surprised that it was scheduled in the US



It sounds like you are equating the word drug with something more like "recreational drug" or something. A drug is just a non-food substance that alters the body's functioning. Ibogaine definitely does that so it's a drug. So are aspirin and penicillin, although neither are "recreational" or even psychoactive.



I tend to be a giant douchebag when im behind a computer.


And whats climate got to do with growing a plant? You can basically re-create any climate indoors right?


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Re: Ibogaine sources [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18806867 - 09/06/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You asked what my reasoning was and I answered.


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Re: Ibogaine sources [Re: psi]
    #18806874 - 09/06/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You asked what my reasoning was and I answered.



:facepalm:

wow, sorry dude. I'm really high

and now embarrassed by my rudeness. again, sorry


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Re: Ibogaine sources [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18806892 - 09/06/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You can recreate a lot of things. But I mean with coca you can recreate almost all of it but the altitude where it grows in SA is something it needs. I just noticed iboga only grows native to Africa so I was just guessin there must be somethin about the climate there you might not get elsewhere. Could be wrong :shrug:


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Re: Ibogaine sources [Re: Eminence]
    #18806900 - 09/06/13 10:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You can recreate a lot of things. But I mean with coca you can recreate almost all of it but the altitude where it grows in SA is something it needs. I just noticed iboga only grows native to Africa so I was just guessin there must be somethin about the climate there you might not get elsewhere. Could be wrong :shrug:



Thats actually good to know. Because in an ideal world where all plants and fungi were legal (like it should be) I would dream of having a coca plant or two. Just to occasionally chew the leaves when I was feeling tired. or too hungry with no food around.

i do not, nor will i ever own coca plants :nono:


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Re: Ibogaine sources [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #18806906 - 09/06/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You asked what my reasoning was and I answered.



:facepalm:

wow, sorry dude. I'm really high

and now embarrassed by my rudeness. again, sorry




No problem man. I wasn't trying to call you out for being "wrong" or anything like that, I just like discussing definitions.

Voacanga apparently contains minimal ibogaine and mostly voacangine, and it sounds like it doesn't do quite the same thing. I got some seeds of it from someone long ago and one sprouted on paper towel, but it took such a long time that I wasn't checking very often and it died before I could transfer it.


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Re: Ibogaine sources [Re: psi]
    #18807698 - 09/06/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Chris Jenks talks about how to extract ibogaine from iboga and converting voacangine from voacanga africana into ibogaine.



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