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JuicyCat
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Three times now and no effect. B+
#18805170 - 09/05/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I grew some B+ and ended up with about 20 grams. In the grow stage in the Shotgun box, I had a good amount of green and black mold on my cakes so those got tossed. Yielding 20g, my roommate and I ate 4.5 grams each and nothing happened. Repeated a week later and same out come.
Is it possible to grow a bad batch? Because of the mold issues and such?. The reason I ask this is because 5 months ago a grow a batch and just 2.5g would get you going fine. Is B+ a strain that is that weak?
Can a B+ be grown and look great but not be potent? Why would this second batch be so worthless?
Edited by JuicyCat (09/05/13 09:07 PM)
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Re: Three times now and no effect. B+ [Re: JuicyCat]
#18805189 - 09/05/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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If the sh rooms aren't cracker dry your dosage is off,
They should snap when you bend them and crackle in pieces
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JuicyCat
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Re: Three times now and no effect. B+ [Re: Agentchewy]
#18805225 - 09/05/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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As dry as a cracker should be. Weight is correct. Effect is not.
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Re: Three times now and no effect. B+ [Re: JuicyCat]
#18805228 - 09/05/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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What prescriptions do you take
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JuicyCat
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Re: Three times now and no effect. B+ [Re: JuicyCat]
#18805257 - 09/05/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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None. 81mg of aspirin everyday that I can remember to take it. That is all. Same with the other takers. No other meds.
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Agentchewy
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Re: Three times now and no effect. B+ [Re: JuicyCat]
#18805292 - 09/05/13 09:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds like you got sold bunk spores, its quite possible they may not even be cubensis
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JuicyCat
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Re: Three times now and no effect. B+ [Re: JuicyCat]
#18805320 - 09/05/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok,bunk spores can happen? I grew B+ from spores bought from a different supplier and those rocked. This batch here if from a new place more local to me. Freespores.com
I did consider this to be a possible cause for weak shrooms. Now im pissed cause I have 12 brand new cakes starting to pin. Grrrrr!!!
This is what I grew then dried, then ate and the got dissapointed. (second flush)

Edited by JuicyCat (09/05/13 10:00 PM)
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Re: Three times now and no effect. B+ [Re: JuicyCat]
#18805330 - 09/05/13 09:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just try them, multi spore growing can vary in potency
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JuicyCat
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Re: Three times now and no effect. B+ [Re: Agentchewy]
#18805356 - 09/05/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Agentchewy said: Just try them, multi spore growing can vary in potency
Huh? I have tried them I personally have eaten about 13 grams in three different attempts. Oh you mean this new batch I have coming.
"Multi Spore Growing" What does that mean?
I think I bought from Hawks Eye last time and prolly will again next time. Realyl bummed as I even made a bunch of spore print of this bad batch.
Edited by JuicyCat (09/05/13 09:49 PM)
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Re: Three times now and no effect. B+ [Re: JuicyCat]
#18805384 - 09/05/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
JuicyCat said:
I did con cider this to be a possible cause for weak shrooms. Now im pissed cause I have 12 brand new cakes starting to pin. Grrrrr!!!
Con Cider, gets you pissed and steals your wallet!
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JuicyCat
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Re: Three times now and no effect. B+ [Re: JuicyCat]
#18805409 - 09/05/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Derp, Con Cider lol...
So even a nice looking Cube B+ like the above can be weak and non potent?
Edited by JuicyCat (09/05/13 10:00 PM)
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Re: Three times now and no effect. B+ [Re: JuicyCat]
#18805516 - 09/05/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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JuicyCat said: Derp, Con Cider lol...
So even a nice looking Cube B+ like the above can be weak and non potent?
Potency can vary based on genetics. Yes it is possible for this to happen. You didn't get sold "bunk" spores, just the genetics in the mushrooms turns out that it didn't produce much alkaloids.
Mutli-spore means straight from the syringe. Keeps in mind that there are billions of possible genetics that can come together in just 1 syringe.
The best thing I can say at this point, is to let their cakes do their next flush and hope for the best. You can either take a spore print and give it another attempt, or try for a new syringe. Just remember that the "strain" name doesn't mean anything. You won't see a difference in any of the strains except for PE, Albino PE, and a couple other select ones.
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Edited by Jimmyhunter1000 (09/05/13 10:23 PM)
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JuicyCat
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Re: Three times now and no effect. B+ [Re: JuicyCat]
#18805674 - 09/05/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Great info and help,,, thanks guys,,
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Re: Three times now and no effect. B+ [Re: JuicyCat]
#18805751 - 09/05/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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My B+ were weak too, but inactive must be a real bummer!
Of course a cube is a cube but B+ are pretty legendary for weak mushrooms, have to wonder if there's maybe not something to it!
I got weak B+ from two separate grows, so even if a cube is a cube, silly superstition or not, I'm still going to avoid them from now on I think!
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Re: Three times now and no effect. B+ [Re: wolf8312]
#18805823 - 09/05/13 11:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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They could be loseing potency drying them. Have u tried a fresh dose?
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Re: Three times now and no effect. B+ [Re: Magicman69]
#18806392 - 09/06/13 07:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't want to disparage a particular "strain" but there have been many reports of totally bunk b+ genetics over the years. Search the forums for that and you'll see. Of course there are plenty of successful awesome B+ grows as well.
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JuicyCat
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Re: Three times now and no effect. B+ [Re: gornyhuy]
#18807281 - 09/06/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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gornyhuy said: I don't want to disparage a particular "strain" but there have been many reports of totally bunk b+ genetics over the years. Search the forums for that and you'll see. Of course there are plenty of successful awesome B+ grows as well.
In your opinion, what would be and easy/better alternative to grow? I think I might try Penis Envy?
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Re: Three times now and no effect. B+ [Re: JuicyCat]
#18807326 - 09/06/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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JuicyCat said:
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gornyhuy said: I don't want to disparage a particular "strain" but there have been many reports of totally bunk b+ genetics over the years. Search the forums for that and you'll see. Of course there are plenty of successful awesome B+ grows as well.
In your opinion, what would be and easy/better alternative to grow? I think I might try Penis Envy?
PE can be a bit harder actually because it tends to grow very slowly, its prone to a first flush of "blob" mutants, and it generally doesn't drop spores so you can't take prints very well. (Though you can get nice black spore swabs.)
Pretty much any cubensis strain you see at Shroomery sponsors should be fine. Personally my first ever flush was Thai Lipa Yai from Ralphsters and it was absolutely awesome. I had zero contams, very nice flushes, great yield, and the 1st trip off half an eight still ranks as one of the best nights of my life.
"A cube is a cube" - look at the grow logs on the cultivation forum and pick one you like the looks of.
Good luck!
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Re: Three times now and no effect. B+ [Re: JuicyCat]
#18807862 - 09/06/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Three times now and no effect. B+ [Re: JohnnieYen]
#18807903 - 09/06/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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no expert, but ive seen B+ being referred to as bunk+ because of the poor reliability of the strain. when you buy b+ spores theres a good chance they dont work, if you're set on growing b+ and you dont want to grow other strains, buy more spores until you get a potent batch and grow your next generations from that batch.
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