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hyphal knots, poor fae, or response to bacteria??update with pin porn
    #18805461 - 09/05/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Third day in the chamber for the two cakes in question. Due to unforseen circumstances and a shitty drill I had to place them in the sgfc before it was complete. So I'm thinking its poor fae.

Thanks in advance







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Re: hyphal knots, poor fae, or response to bacteria?? [Re: heratogwea]
    #18805644 - 09/05/13 10:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

They look fine to me so far.  Consider trimming up that foil, though.  Ideally you want just enough to rest the cakes on.


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Re: hyphal knots, poor fae, or response to bacteria?? [Re: Psilicon]
    #18806275 - 09/06/13 05:49 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks van, will do. Any reason why? I'm guessing something to do with fae?


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Re: hyphal knots, poor fae, or response to bacteria?? [Re: heratogwea]
    #18806303 - 09/06/13 06:08 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You need to complete your sgfc. especially if you didn't drill the bottom ones.
That will give them the perfect fae to start pinning. which is what i guess you're asking about :wink:
The foil is hindering the moist air that's supposed to enter your fc from the bottom,
drawing moisture from the perlite on it's way through.
When your foil covers more area than needed, you get less room for good air.

Sorry if this is incoherent, morning time around here :pipesmoke:


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Re: hyphal knots, poor fae, or response to bacteria?? [Re: spacechildo]
    #18806321 - 09/06/13 06:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Makes perfect sense space. Good morning and thanks for the reply! I did make sure I completed the bottom. I just have a few on the lid to finish up and one side.
I know its a no no, but before bed last night I placed a small fan on low across the room pointing towards the chamber. This morning they looked a little better, and my humidity was still around 94 percent. The verm had actually dried on my cakes quite a bit.
Think I'm gonna birth dunk and roll my other jars today and toss em in there.


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Re: hyphal knots, poor fae, or response to bacteria?? [Re: heratogwea]
    #18806449 - 09/06/13 07:51 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

A fan ruins the natural airflow in the room, and the air wont come in from the bottom of your chamber,
That's important because that's where your perlite is.
You would also have to mist a lot more because as you've seen, they dry up faster.
Just crack a window open, makes for the perfect airflow.

PS: is your sgfc elevated? so air can come in through the bottom?
ps 2: If you use a digital cheap hygrometer, don't. The sgfc makes perfect rh and fae.
And, the more the merrier. A SGFC works best with more cakes in it.


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Re: hyphal knots, poor fae, or response to bacteria?? [Re: spacechildo]
    #18806488 - 09/06/13 08:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I wouldn't use a fan but the chamber is in my basement. I pointed it away after your reply. Yes I do have it elevated, and the hygrometer I'm using is an analog one from the sixties :smile:


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Re: hyphal knots, poor fae, or response to bacteria?? [Re: heratogwea]
    #18806578 - 09/06/13 08:48 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)



This guy was ready to come out :laugh:


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Re: hyphal knots, poor fae, or response to bacteria?? [Re: heratogwea]
    #18807693 - 09/06/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I bet with those holes in the bottom and it being elevated they'll pin like crazy.

I had the same set up but no holes in the bottom and my cakes did EXACTLY what yours are doing.  But I left the FC without the holes for so long that the stale air contamed my cakes and FC with Trich.

Cleaned it out. Birthed, dunk & rolled and about 20+ BIG pins within 48 hours. =))))))

Also.  I added a 6500K fluro which Im sure helped.


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Re: hyphal knots, poor fae, or response to bacteria?? [Re: BLINKfan420]
    #18807795 - 09/06/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I hope so blink. Right now I don't feel like they are sufficient. Really need to get on the rest of the holes tonight. Problem is the drill I have. Its a shitty black and decker without an actual drill bit. So I have to start the holes with a small screw and then enlarge them with a bigger one. Do what you gotta do:shrug:

Have five more dunking right now I will add to the four I have in there. After that I'm gonna try to prepare 10 more jars for sterilization tonight. Will try to update with pics when I'm done :laugh:


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Re: hyphal knots, poor fae, or response to bacteria?? [Re: heratogwea]
    #18808019 - 09/06/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

My first SGFC I did with a candle, nail, hammer and gloves.  Heated up the nail and poked through (if that wasnt obvious).

It took quite a while to say the least..


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Re: hyphal knots, poor fae, or response to bacteria?? [Re: BLINKfan420]
    #18808204 - 09/06/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

you guys can't go out and buy a 1/4" bit? aren't they like a dollar or two?


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Re: hyphal knots, poor fae, or response to bacteria?? [Re: BLINKfan420]
    #18808248 - 09/06/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18800969#18800969

These look like 2 of the 3 cakes from your other thread, where you identified that 3 cakes became infected with maggots.  What happened to the third cake?  Does it look good compared to these 2?    Are any of these the jar that you thought had more than a few maggots, but you only found one?  These are the same cakes in the other thread, so I still vote for throw out.

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So I woke up this morning to find a suspect jar to have a worm or two...to actually have one. This will be the last time I colonize on my attic stairs. Anyway I birthed, rinsed off real good, and dunked. Finally got home and pulled it out to find it looking completely normal, so I rolled and placed with the other two worm cakes in the terrarium.
I actually believe whatever the worms are were actually feeding on the sub not the myc. The reason I say is because the cake I found the worm on this morning finally colonized over the tiny spot that was left, and the single worm I found in that jar was against the glass...presumably dead.

Here is the one I just dunked and rolled. Turned pretty blue after the dunk..was submerged somewhere around 14 hours

And this last pic is of a knot forming that is kind of worrying.


Sorry didn't realize how blurry the last pic was. Will try to update tomorrow with a better pic.




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Re: hyphal knots, poor fae, or response to bacteria?? [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #18808356 - 09/06/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Yes wippy they are the same cakes. The third is looking great. Came out from the dunk completely blue, but has since recovered nicely. I also ground my verm for the third cake so it is completely cased. I'm wondering if these two are looking this way due to the shitty casing job I did.

No smells or colors...so they will stay a little longer.


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Re: hyphal knots, poor fae, or response to bacteria?? [Re: heratogwea]
    #18808678 - 09/06/13 06:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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heratogwea said:
Yes wippy they are the same cakes. The third is looking great. Came out from the dunk completely blue, but has since recovered nicely. I also ground my verm for the third cake so it is completely cased. I'm wondering if these two are looking this way due to the shitty casing job I did.

No smells or colors...so they will stay a little longer.




You would be amazed what contamination bugs bring with them.  I just thought it was important information that was not provided within this thread.  As I posted prior, I have had fungal gnats ruin my oyster grow earlier this year.  The damage is not just from them eating.  I really hope this works out, but wanted to make sure that any help here is aware of the previous contamination.  I really wonder....you posted that you thought there were more than one maggot, but when you got around to it you only found one.  Where did the others go?  Whatever brought the eggs into your grow brought other things with it.  Just my 2 cents.


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Re: hyphal knots, poor fae, or response to bacteria?? [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #18808737 - 09/06/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks whippy.

I am under the impression I had rinsed them all off.. and to be safe I cut the part off the cake that had not colonized due to the worm/s. The cake under the cut appeared perfectly healthy.
I really hope it works out to.. and if it doesn't oh well. At least I am having a great learning experience and a great deal of fun along with it.
Here's to hoping this second batch of jars is worm free:cheers:


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Re: hyphal knots, poor fae, or response to bacteria?? [Re: heratogwea]
    #18808761 - 09/06/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Here's a few knots off a cake I birthed today.





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Re: hyphal knots, poor fae, or response to bacteria?? [Re: heratogwea]
    #18812353 - 09/07/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Just thought I would update with my first pin off these cakes :laugh:




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Re: hyphal knots, poor fae, or response to bacteria?? [Re: heratogwea]
    #18812405 - 09/07/13 06:00 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

There ya go! Good luck and hopefully there will be many more pins to come!:thumbup:


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Re: hyphal knots, poor fae, or response to bacteria?? [Re: BLINKfan420]
    #18812424 - 09/07/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks man! Pretty stoked. Have a good feeling about these :cheers:


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