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DXM and Conspiracy theories
#18805379 - 09/05/13 09:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok so it's been close to a year since I've last robo'd and likely never will again but I've been thinking about this recently. How many of you shroomerites have had the experience of developing intense conspiracy theories that you truly believe while on DXM? My doses ranged from 225mg-360mg but almost always took 300 (always 15mg gel caps). Usually happened on the second half of the trip. For example once I thought I had predicted the shooting incident in the colorado movie theater though this is ridiculous.
Also how many have an intense horrible 20-45 min come up where you literally feel like death?
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Haha my favorite thing to do on DXM is go on the internet so this is probably why. And to clarify I dont think of it as a bad thing I actually enjoy it, I know I'm crazy 
Probably something to do with the sigma receptors affected on DXM that have direct links to schizophrenic individuals. As a neuroscience major I think it's pretty awesome
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: neuroshaman]
#18805509 - 09/05/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's the reason I don't do dxm anymore...
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: neuroshaman]
#18805533 - 09/05/13 10:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, I've robo-tripped many times and never had a problem with it except that one time, and that wasn't really that bad, it was just a few minutes of confusion because a random video of people being tortured popped up. The new and unknown territory I was venturing into with my life, plus the nasty, disturbing video just had me scared pretty good. I eventually pulled myself together, but it took a good 5 minutes or so. On the other hand I have had many wonderful DXM experiences, when not influenced by outside media. Any time I am outside I have the most wonderful trips just lying in the grass and looking up at the trees and stars. I feel so connected with the universe and nature. I think the Shroomery and DXM go very well together, but it's easy to get sucked into the computer for hours and miss out on the experience.
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If I ever do it again I might do it differently. My favorite experience was getting my good friend to do it with me his first time and connecting on a really deep level, even more so than on MDMA.
Also, do you get the shitty come up as well? My friend always got it too, maybe robogels aren't the best method of ingestion because even on 300mg the come up was hell, I can't imagine going upwards of 750 or so
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: falsereality]
#18805572 - 09/05/13 10:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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And elaborate falsreality...what kind of conspiracy theories popped into your head?
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: neuroshaman]
#18805602 - 09/05/13 10:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Are you just talking about the nausea, or what? If nausea is your problem, just take 50 mg diphenhydramine (Benadryl) and it will stop you from puking. I've taken over 900mg with no problems. I used to do syrup, but it started to make puke every time, so I converted to gel-caps.
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The only thing is that the Benadryl will make you drowsy, just don't give in! Keep your eyes open, turn on some music and dance, take caffeine, etc. Whatever it takes to stay awake.
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Not just nausea but literally feeling like a disgusting chemical or something...literally like this animation looks
idk very hard to explain but I doubt I'll ever robo again just thinking of old times
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: neuroshaman]
#18805761 - 09/05/13 11:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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A lot of people get that dirty feeling... I feel a bit odd coming up but at my dose (600mg) - but once you're near peak and begin... well its hard to explain exactly what each person does to attain it... but sort of meditating/letting your mental state be moved by something (itself, the drug?, an outside influence?) while listening to music in the dark. This will take you to insaaaaaaane places, give you amazing, clean, positive epiphanies... My last trip even got the point for the first time ever where I could actually take in more stimuli than just visual in the place that the drug had taken me in my mind, I could smell/feel/taste etc.... But the point of me telling you all this - is when you come back from that state the feeling of cleanliness and euphoria is incredibly strong. ALL bad physical feelings are washed away, and even the typical DXM hangover becomes something more of a afterglow.. no mental fog.
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: twighead]
#18806078 - 09/06/13 02:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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My first and only time taking Dex I kept thinking I was some programed robot being and the DXM was like some glitch protein enzyme that let me break out of my forced viewpoint. DXM made me very deterministic. DXM is just fuckin, weird man.
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: Lizard Eyes]
#18806111 - 09/06/13 02:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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dxm is some shit isn't it
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: Legend]
#18806141 - 09/06/13 03:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm thinking of one day just going to buy some robotussin from the pharmacy and try some as my ode to the psychonaughts who have experimented with it, it doesn't particularly interest me as I've done ketamine at quite high doses but that stuffs quite expensive these days. Nobody in England seems to have any interest in it but there must be something to it as there's a new thread mentioning it like everyday here at the shroomery.
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Why not man. It's definitely more intricate and strange than a lot of common psychedelics but always gave me more of a sense of feeling alone in the universe rather than connected.
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: neuroshaman]
#18808621 - 09/06/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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neuroshaman said: Why not man. It's definitely more intricate and strange than a lot of common psychedelics but always gave me more of a sense of feeling alone in the universe rather than connected.
This too....
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: neuroshaman]
#18808674 - 09/06/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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neuroshaman said: Why not man. It's definitely more intricate and strange than a lot of common psychedelics but always gave me more of a sense of feeling alone in the universe rather than connected.
I feel the opposite. Double your dose.
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: twighead]
#18808691 - 09/06/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've been sick for like the past month as well as allergies and caught walking pneumo. I work with a lot of people all day and interact with 20-50 on any given day. Manual laborers don't take sick days off, they save them for when they're better. If someone at a jobsite isn't sick then it's running around gas stations and lunchbreak etc etc.
So I've got a bottle and a half of Delsym around.
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: twighead]
#18810173 - 09/07/13 01:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Youre probably right but unlike shrooms, I feel like with DXM less is more. As long as less is still a strong 2nd plateau trip...you learn more about yourself this whay IMO
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: neuroshaman]
#18810290 - 09/07/13 02:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Probably something to do with the sigma receptors affected on DXM that have direct links to schizophrenic individuals. As a neuroscience major I think it's pretty awesome
Source? I'd like to see a quote from ANYTHING supporting this.
I know Mercury can act in a similar way as you claim, as far as the schizophrenia. Thats why they call them MadHatters, because they used mercury to make hats, and went crazy!
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: Lizard Eyes]
#18810351 - 09/07/13 02:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lizard Eyes said: My first and only time taking Dex I kept thinking I was some programed robot being and the DXM was like some glitch protein enzyme that let me break out of my forced viewpoint. DXM made me very deterministic. DXM is just fuckin, weird man.
hahah nice to see your take on dxm lizard eyes its not for everyone, if you dont get bodyload too bad (me) its one of the most unique experience you'll ever have
I watched the Joe Rogan Podcast with Neil Degrasse Tyson on while on a small dose of DXM (250) and it was

...then again shit gets REAL crazy in high doses Ive blasted off into the universe, met carl sagan, floated in binary code, seen ancient stones with green ancient text, etc
Yeah, its weird how many mg were you on on that robot trip?
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greencrush420 said: The only thing is that the Benadryl will make you drowsy, just don't give in! Keep your eyes open, turn on some music and dance, take caffeine, etc. Whatever it takes to stay awake.
or make you go totally non-consciousness for hours with no memory recall
seeing straight out people hallucinations detailed as fuck
blabering a lot of insane non-sense to your friend thats not even there
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: SeattleBlue]
#18810369 - 09/07/13 03:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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SeattleBlue said: ...then again shit gets REAL crazy in high doses Ive blasted off into the universe, met carl sagan, floated in binary code, seen ancient stones with green ancient text, etc
I have never had any sort of hallucinations like I'm reading here. Maybe I need a higher dose? Usually trip around 600mg. Highest was 750mg and I just felt like my couch was on a gyroscope spinning for a couple hours. I was literally trying to hang onto my seat while watching Enter the Void.
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: DeeBee]
#18810373 - 09/07/13 03:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have had that same exact feeling Like your on a rollercoaster at times
...this was on a 750 dose All CEV's
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: DeeBee]
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SeattleBlue said: ...then again shit gets REAL crazy in high doses Ive blasted off into the universe, met carl sagan, floated in binary code, seen ancient stones with green ancient text, etc
I have never had any sort of hallucinations like I'm reading here. Maybe I need a higher dose? Usually trip around 600mg. Highest was 750mg and I just felt like my couch was on a gyroscope spinning for a couple hours. I was literally trying to hang onto my seat while watching Enter the Void.
Try smoking weed on the peak, then instead of watching a movie turn out the lights, lie down and listen to music on headphones... close eyes - and if you're not blasting off somewhere in your head with this environment on 750~mg... well... Donno! But this will for sure always have me above my head in inner visual explorations
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: twighead]
#18811146 - 09/07/13 10:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can't smoke the ganja I'm on probation but I'll definitely try the dark room and headphones. Thanks twighead
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: DeeBee]
#18811859 - 09/07/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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DeeBee said: I can't smoke the ganja I'm on probation but I'll definitely try the dark room and headphones. Thanks twighead
Hmm,
Well n2o is a good addition as well
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: SeattleBlue]
#18812788 - 09/07/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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greencrush420 said: The only thing is that the Benadryl will make you drowsy, just don't give in! Keep your eyes open, turn on some music and dance, take caffeine, etc. Whatever it takes to stay awake.
or make you go totally non-consciousness for hours with no memory recall
seeing straight out people hallucinations detailed as fuck
blabering a lot of insane non-sense to your friend thats not even there

Yup, it'll certainly do that at a high enough dosage. I was just telling him to take 50mg for nausea, though. Recreational dosage of DPH is more like 250+ mg.
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Uhm there's a well accepted NDMA receptor theory of schizophrenia. If you take a few minutes to search on google scholar, you'll find a plethora of sources and a wealth of in depth discussions about the topic. I came across that doing a project over the summer for neurobio.
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: JoieDeVivre]
#18813600 - 09/08/13 12:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I gave him the sources...and also I've take DPH twice once at 250 and once at 200, definitely not my thing, I hate benadryl even at the prescribed 25-50 mg doses
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Re: DXM and Conspiracy theories [Re: JoieDeVivre]
#18813630 - 09/08/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Were you talking to me... or just quick reply?
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