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Psychedlics are evil
    #18804629 - 09/05/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I am writing a paper on the opposing views of psychedelics for one of my classes.  Unfortunately all I kind find is positive view points on them.  The only article I have found opposing the positive view of them is on bad trips.  Anyone have any links to more perspectives on the negative perspective of them?

Also for those bored or those who care enough to read here is my what I have so far.  Open to criticism



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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: thelanzii]
    #18804637 - 09/05/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

A paper huh... nice opening statement.


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: thelanzii]
    #18804639 - 09/05/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

one time this friend of a friend went to the cemetery on shrooms, and he saw a ghost as he and his accomplices were climbing over the fence to get out, and he had a heart attack and died.


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: akira_akuma] * 3
    #18804649 - 09/05/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

this one time, a friend of mine took shrooms, and the very next day he was a homosexual.


true story:lolfat:


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: thelanzii]
    #18804651 - 09/05/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Your paper should be about how people who have never used them think they're evil, but those people don't know shit.  A bunch of old geezers in govt making laws about shit they know nothing about, why write a paper supporting that even if you have to?  There is enough bullshit in drug laws/ideas to be supporting that crap.  Support the counter culture :thumbup:


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: Salomon]
    #18804654 - 09/05/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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this one time, a friend of mine took shrooms, and the very next day he was a homosexual.


true story:lolfat:




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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: thizzlemaniac]
    #18804665 - 09/05/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Your paper should be about how people who have never used them think they're evil, but those people don't know shit.  A bunch of old geezers in govt making laws about shit they know nothing about, why write a paper supporting that even if you have to?  There is enough bullshit in drug laws/ideas to be supporting that crap.  Support the counter culture :thumbup:



Definitely do this. Don't give those with a closed mind an edge they don't need. They already have us outnumbered.


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: Salomon]
    #18804666 - 09/05/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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this one time, a friend of mine took shrooms, and the very next day he was a homosexual.


true story:lolfat:




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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: thizzlemaniac] * 1
    #18804668 - 09/05/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Unfortunately I have to address the opposing party to fulfill the requirements of the assignment.  I am not fond of entertaining the opposition on this topic but will do so to please the grader.


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #18804675 - 09/05/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I always get super tempted to write papers on dr00gz but being that I'm a Chem. Engineering major I wanna seem as square as possible. Which is hard...


OP you should write about possible contaminants, mistaken drugs, or poor synths.  I've had some bad blotters that had my kidneys (I think?) in pain for days afterwards.


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: thelanzii]
    #18804681 - 09/05/13 07:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

u should write about psychosis and delusional magical thining that can come with tripping too much


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: Sheekle]
    #18804682 - 09/05/13 07:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

that's a good suggestion.


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: Futuresight]
    #18804686 - 09/05/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Your paper should be about how people who have never used them think they're evil, but those people don't know shit.  A bunch of old geezers in govt making laws about shit they know nothing about, why write a paper supporting that even if you have to?  There is enough bullshit in drug laws/ideas to be supporting that crap.  Support the counter culture :thumbup:



Definitely do this. Don't give those with a closed mind an edge they don't need. They already have us outnumbered.




True, anyone who writes that psychedelics are "evil" is just plain ignorant.  Either write the truth or don't bother.  Psychedelics are hard to wrap your mind around and are not for everyone, but evil....fuck no.

Edit:I read your response before posting this, again don't support the bullshit just because you're looking for a good grade.  It does none of us any good.  That's like those jokes about womens rights where the woman makes an ignorant statement that sets women back 100 years...that's kinda what you're doing.  No disrespect but I hope you understand where I am coming from. :peace:


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: Futuresight]
    #18804689 - 09/05/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I would address the misconceptions that surround pshychedelic drug use, starting with the propoganda of "reefer madness".


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: thelanzii] * 1
    #18804699 - 09/05/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've had a friend who killed himself from taking waaaaaay too many shrooms and I'll never say that they are evil.  It's all in the individuals mind.  You know that feeling like you are never going to come down, but you want to because time is going by SO SLOW?  Negative thoughts and feelings are evil and contribute to bad trips, other wise phychedelicas are great...there's your paper the end :tongue:


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: qman]
    #18804700 - 09/05/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

evil minds on Acid are twice as evil. Charles Manson.

you want negative shit, go there.


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18804707 - 09/05/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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evil minds on Acid are twice as evil. Charles Manson.

you want negative shit, go there.




Yea write about that or something if your being forced to


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: Lizard Eyes]
    #18804708 - 09/05/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

good idea for sure.  definitely will do some research on that. Thanks for the suggestion.  its for a psychology class so the teacher is somewhat open minded.

I just made the title so it would attract attention.  By no means would I ever speak negatively about the psychedelics.  I will address the misconceptions and plain ignorance of the opposing the view as opposed to supporting their ideas.  I will post the final paper so you can see how It all comes together. 
Thanks for all the suggestions!


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: thelanzii]
    #18804713 - 09/05/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: thelanzii]
    #18804715 - 09/05/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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good idea for sure.  definitely will do some research on that. Thanks for the suggestion.  its for a psychology class so the teacher is somewhat open minded.

I just made the title so it would attract attention.  By no means would I ever speak negatively about the psychedelics.  I will address the misconceptions and plain ignorance of the opposing the view as opposed to supporting their ideas.  I will post the final paper so you can see how It all comes together




The first thing one should be taught about writing is that a good writer presents every opposing side and leaves their opinion out of it at least until the end.  Hints on opinion are welcomed sometimes but generally not.  Any negative or even positive rant just seems like poor reading material to the reader.


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: thizzlemaniac]
    #18804733 - 09/05/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: thelanzii]
    #18804734 - 09/05/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

LSD crystals are stored in your spine so when ever you crack your back you trip bawwlss

shrooms make you gay

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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: thelanzii] * 1
    #18804738 - 09/05/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Risks:
Mental health problems (in rare cases , predisposed people, weed would have done it too,... syd barret.?)
Psychosis, usually temporary  (if overused)
unwanted spiritual experiences (if not ready/overused)
change direction in life, after figuring yourself out (a possibility)
hurting yourself / saying something stupid (if you are not careful about set/setting/dose, don't talk to boss while tripping, or drive while tripping)
hppd (usually temporary, sometimes lasting)

Benefits:
improved life view,  cure depression / cluster headaches / death anxiety/anxiety/addiction
shamanic use through time to heal the soul (psychedelics are usually natural shamanic plants)
often more creative
they can be the start of a spiritual path, many become buddhists/hippies/religious after them
can often cure addiction (people sometimes stop smoking weed/drink alcohol/overeating)

Typical users:
shamans
counter culture (hippies) / people interested in exploring their minds

Abuse potential:
every 3-4 days or so due to tolerance with most psychedelics
more than that and you have to double up dosages, not economical for most people
not physically addicting, most people do them once every week, few weeks, every few months, just once
and they often become boring after a number of uses / many stop due to bad trips

It might be worth mentioning that most psychedelics do the same, dissolve boundaries
and show us what we are inside
so we might be able to make our outside reflect our inside one day with enough processing, and be happy

Even if you have to write about their evil side, a good writer mixes more than that in...
either directly/indirectly, no need to produce more misinfo
Always be objective.... scientifically objective


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: dark3st]
    #18804752 - 09/05/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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OP this news report will help ya. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13135806/fpart/1





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Police Discover Hallucinogenic Mushrooms; 2 Arrested
September 1, 2010 - 4029tv.com

UNIONTOWN, Ark. -- Deputies investigating a string of burglaries in Crawford County on Monday were led to the home of Brody Watson and Jennifer Ann Prince.

When they arrived at the home on Hideaway Lane in Uniontown, they found a psilocybin mushroom growing operation.

The pair was arrested and is now charged with manufacturing of a controlled substance.

This was the first time the Crawford County Sheriff’s Department had a case involving mushrooms.

Ron Brown of the Crawford County Sheriff’s Department said, “It’s probably being used more often in Crawford County than we know. But like I said, it's the first one that we, the Sheriffs Department, have come across."

"(Users) experience an exhilaration that makes them think that they can do things that they can't do, like fly,” said Chris Harrison of the Arkansas State Crime Lab of using the mushrooms. “And so they'll jump off buildings. They tend to be more suicidal, than homicidal."

Deputies said they took every precaution in removing the drugs, because of their toxic nature.

“It’s my understanding that just breathing it can be very toxic,” Brown said.

Watson and Prince are no longer considered suspects in the burglaries, just persons of interest, deputies said. The case is still open.






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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: dark3st]
    #18804764 - 09/05/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18804853 - 09/05/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

In the Bible and other sacred texts, it says that using tools of divination, practicing magic, conjuring familiar spirits and reading the future are sins. Psychedelics are known tools of divination, which people have used to practice magic, conjure spirits, and read the future. It is common when on a hallucinogen to experience these things.

The reason why these things are considered a sin is not very clear, but I will give my opinion based on what I know. A psychedelic could be viewed as sinful because it is pleasurable to your body. This is proven by the influx of serotonin and dopamine that usually occurs. It makes you feel good. Anything that is pleasurable to the animal body is generally considered a sin. This is a sin because the body is animalistic, but more importantly, because the body dies. By becoming attached to it, you will die with it. Paul teaches how the mind is of God and the body is of the Devil, and is sin. The main point is to dissociate the mind from the body to dissociate from sinful action and reaction. The same is taught in the Bhagavad Gita.

It is also taught that it is important to be sober in order to keep a logical and levelheaded mind; in order to be prepared, to be responsible, to conduct yourself appropriately and in order to serve the betterment of mankind. Taking psychedelics is serving yourself because you want something from them, so in this way, taking them can be seen as a selfish act. In a sense, you are taking psychedelics for you own self gratification. This is considered sinful, or rather, this is sin itself.

Psychedelics also tend to bring out the primal in man. It can cause violent activity and bewilder the user. On psychedelics, one can not function in society. He is essentially incompetent through most of the experience. It does not promote learning in any relevant sense, such as with a text book or mathematics.

Another reason psychedelics can be bad is that they can be addictive just like any other substance, cause brain damage and kill people. They have been used to brain wash people and to torture people. You can read about MkUltra and how the CIA was handing LSD out to college students, and not with good intentions.

Other than that, the negatives of psychedelics would be the same negatives that are associated with all medicine.

Personally, it's not black or white for me. Even though psychedelics do make you feel good, a lot of them also make you impotent and have no interest in eating food. As we know sex and eating food has always been considered selfish and evil.

I think psychedelics are only beneficial and good when used as medicine just like any other drug. They've been show to prevent migraines and treat depression. Other than that, it is selfish and not necessary to use them, but they sure are fun.

Okay, I'm done.


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: thelanzii]
    #18804858 - 09/05/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Nemmies said:
Unfortunately I have to address the opposing party to fulfill the requirements of the assignment.  I am not fond of entertaining the opposition on this topic but will do so to please the grader.




do something about the potential implications on mental health, also HPPD.


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18804909 - 09/05/13 08:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Nemmies said:
Unfortunately I have to address the opposing party to fulfill the requirements of the assignment.  I am not fond of entertaining the opposition on this topic but will do so to please the grader.




do something about the potential implications on mental health, also HPPD.



care to provide a source.  all my google sources show up with them finding they are not linked with mental health and can even have positive effects.  Not one title I saw said the two were linked.  weird
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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18804923 - 09/05/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Syd barret...

almost everyone in pink floyd and beatles tripped psychedelics (LSD) in the 60-80s

but syd barret went crazy from LSD...

could have happened with other drugs too I'm sure, weed i.e.

many people go crazy from weed and end up in a mental hospital from it too, but 95% of people who smoke it don't


if you are a good writer you can even write how unstable you can become after a dissolved ego, and how a functioning ego needs to protect us ;-)
then you might get an A if you do that good

it's a bit true, but also a bit false at the same time (I believe most people would benefit from getting dissolved once)
it has as many benefits as problems...  many people benefit from dissolving ego temporarily and rebuilding themselves
gives them a whole new view on life, and happiness like never before

but for some people it breaks them, if they already got DR/DP issues/smoke weed at the same time/have mental problems already
each person has to decide for themselves if they want to do it, it's not without risks
but most people come out fine
John Lennon had egodeath, albert hofmann had egodeath, my old I had it too
it's usually beneficial , but it has downsides too  , hard to function in society sometimes (but sometimes it makes it easier to function/be social/outgoing too)

you have to figure out yourself what that means :-) , it changes you a lot


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: Salomon]
    #18804946 - 09/05/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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this one time, a friend of mine took shrooms, and the very next day he was a homosexual.


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: Gilgamesh18]
    #18804953 - 09/05/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I would talk about the "evil" criminalization of psychedelics have brought,  and just talk about people undergoing the extremely harsh penalties for such harmless drugs.
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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: lessismore]
    #18804973 - 09/05/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Criminalization = multiple deaths of young people who had their lives in front of them, university/high school students  , taking 25i-nbome as they couldn't find LSD, and death from 1-2 drops

think I've seen at least 5-10 deaths from it now that could have been avoided if LSD/mushrooms were legal

that is evil, more evil than any psychedelic can bring onto you
and it's usually not even from shady drug dealers, but people not being informed that taking 2 drops could be dangerous, because 25i is so potent

making drugs illegal is going away from an informed society
people are being fed misinfo by the gov, so they stop trusting the gov completely..!


you could write about how evil 25i-nbome is (new designer drug, new psychedelic), it has killed many people
I've tripped on it myself, many people have, didn't enjoy it though (only because I couldn't find LSD - also I've studied 4 years at university / 17 years in school , productive member of society putting my life at risk unknowingly sometimes due to drug laws, didn't know it could be lethal)

it's cheaper than LSD and lasts as long as LSD, $0.3 for a 10 hour trip, LSD is $10 for 10 hours


and it's not only psychedelics that cost lives
ecstasy too, due to prohibition , lots of deaths each year(many many ER visits costing tax money), due to people not knowing what they get

weed too, fake weed, destroying your kidneys , or killing people (several deaths+ER visits costing tax money too)

but there will always be a demand, and innocent victims as long as the war continue
the original drugs were harmless all of them , without much abuse potential

btw my uncle got a bsc in philosophy and loves to trip LSD/meditate too :-) , so they're not so evil
they help you explore your mind, but with prohibition you die instead because you get something else


Edited by lessismore (09/05/13 08:48 PM)


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: thelanzii]
    #18805003 - 09/05/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Nemmies said:
Quote:

Bodhi of Ankou said:
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Nemmies said:
Unfortunately I have to address the opposing party to fulfill the requirements of the assignment.  I am not fond of entertaining the opposition on this topic but will do so to please the grader.




do something about the potential implications on mental health, also HPPD.



care to provide a source.  all my google sources show up with them finding they are not linked with mental health and can even have positive effects.  Not one title I saw said the two were linked.  weird
im gonna check the databases as well




I didnt have one. It was a suggestion, smart ass, but since you cant even handle a google search I did one for you. Third link that showed up.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9875725


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18805059 - 09/05/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

everything is both good and evil.


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: druqs]
    #18805070 - 09/05/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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druqs said:
everything is both good and evil.




mushrooms are balance.


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: Legend]
    #18805095 - 09/05/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Once my friend took shrooms and satan ate him.


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: druqs]
    #18805111 - 09/05/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

4 articles you can find on google:
Some tourist in the NL took shrooms and sliced his dog into pieces in the back of his van to free its mind from the devil

another guy cut of his penis during a trip

and some teen girl in the NL jumped out from xxth floor, then NL banned shrooms

and jerrod laughner smoked salvia, it makes you ccrazy


or maybe the sample size was small, millions of people take psychedelics, most get happy from them
there have been a few suicides as well, but suicides are normal among nontripping people too


Edited by lessismore (09/05/13 09:03 PM)


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18805132 - 09/05/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Bodhi of Ankou said:
Quote:

Nemmies said:
Quote:

Bodhi of Ankou said:
Quote:

Nemmies said:
Unfortunately I have to address the opposing party to fulfill the requirements of the assignment.  I am not fond of entertaining the opposition on this topic but will do so to please the grader.




do something about the potential implications on mental health, also HPPD.



care to provide a source.  all my google sources show up with them finding they are not linked with mental health and can even have positive effects.  Not one title I saw said the two were linked.  weird
im gonna check the databases as well




I didnt have one. It was a suggestion, smart ass, but since you cant even handle a google search I did one for you. Third link that showed up.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9875725



woah man just a question.  no need to think I am personally attacking you.  I should have searched more specifically.  appreciate the source and insight


Edited by thelanzii (09/05/13 09:08 PM)


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: thelanzii]
    #18805194 - 09/05/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

.


Edited by thelanzii (09/06/13 08:32 AM)


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: thelanzii]
    #18805195 - 09/05/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Say its evil that they're illegal


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #18805197 - 09/05/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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xbloodwhipx said:
Once my friend took shrooms and satan ate him.




one time when i was tripping on 3 grams of mush, i closed my eyes, and it was like being
inside of a slaughter house. i had vivid images of bloody dead meet hanging all around me,
with screams of animals, and chainsaws in the distances. i was laying on the floor with blood
all around me. i blame my past experience in a slaughter house for this. i now limit my meat
intake 10 fold.


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: thelanzii]
    #18805203 - 09/05/13 09:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Looks good so far! Can't wait to read it when it's done.


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: Futuresight]
    #18805236 - 09/05/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

To say that psychedelics are evil is retarded. Psilocybin has no conscious and if it did then it would most likely be grey. Even with the human aspect that it attaches itself to, it would most likely be a grey area of moral value like so many are. I think your paper should stand above ignorance. You could address the truth wholeheartedly and earnest. Calling something evil and then trying to go with a bunch of stereotypical idiotic judgements might be easier but it's not the righteous path.


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18805270 - 09/05/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I do admit it was a shitty thread title choice.  I was initially having trouble with the view on why a party would feel negatively towards psychedelics.  I at no point in the paper call them evil nor do I feel that way or have found any sources saying such.


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: thelanzii]
    #18805316 - 09/05/13 09:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well you could go onto say that psychedelics are not for everyone and can harm a users psyche if he or she is not mentally prepared or built to incorporate these trance states into their lives. You could also tell of the ones who prefer to use this form of psychoactives as a form of recreation and end up having bad trips that harm their psyche. Also, be sure to use the term psychoactive, not drug, or psychedelic. Drug is to psychoactive as pussy is to gentalia, it's negative and unprofessional. It's not to be used within a community unless they already have a comfort with it.


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: lessismore]
    #18805475 - 09/05/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

mio said:
4 articles you can find on google:
Some tourist in the NL took shrooms and sliced his dog into pieces in the back of his van to free its mind from the devil

another guy cut of his penis during a trip

and some teen girl in the NL jumped out from xxth floor, then NL banned shrooms

and jerrod laughner smoked salvia, it makes you ccrazy


or maybe the sample size was small, millions of people take psychedelics, most get happy from them
there have been a few suicides as well, but suicides are normal among nontripping people too



thanks for all the help mio


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Re: Psychedlics are evil [Re: thelanzii]
    #18805618 - 09/05/13 10:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

http://deoxy.org/w_psyrel.htm
this guy has some interesting stuff to say


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