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    #18804258 - 09/05/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: Harrishroom]
    #18804271 - 09/05/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

There isn't quite enough scientific medical research as marijuana is schedule 1, but from experience after my psychedelic use cannabis starts becoming more hallucinogenic and set setting plays a key role in this infamous paranoia, its subjective though and varies person to person .


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: Harrishroom]
    #18804310 - 09/05/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't get paranoid off weed unless I'm smoking it outside and that's kind of a rarity.
I've been quite a heavy smoker for a good 2-3 years and I don't really feel paranoid when sober, and even when I am paranoid it's not over the top.. sometimes it's good to be paranoid and wary of your surroundings.

I think it's just propaganda although a few people I know are quite anxious now and again; not sure if it's from the bud though. It's not like you look at everyone and think they're a spy or out to get you, just loud noises and things like that make you a bit more anxious when you have a joint in your hand.


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: shroomlowie]
    #18804331 - 09/05/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If it weren't illegal I would get noided.  Just sayin.  :shrug:
However, I do notice since I more or less quit weed and only smoke it on very rare occasions, it makes me super paranoid when I do. I think it's one of those threshold effects that actually goes away the more you smoke.  Unless of course you have an underlying condition.


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: shroomlowie]
    #18804355 - 09/05/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

For me, when i first started smoking, I would never get anxious or paranoid. I could smoke as much as I wanted and not worry about anything, but that has definitely changed. There are times when I get pretty bad anxiety from smoking. Certain strains are worse than others and I do find that set and setting are becoming more and more important when I smoke. My mindset at the time of smoking is what is most important. I would say for some people, the paranoia and anxiety does get worse over time. I also know people who never feel anxious. I find that It's kind of hit or miss.

PS: I have been smoking for roughly 3 years now and have only a full month tolerance break and the occasional few day breAks in that time period.


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: Cosmic VOC]
    #18804444 - 09/05/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Nah, I would say the anxiety's worse.


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: theRAPeutic]
    #18804714 - 09/05/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I smoked nearly constantly for four or so years and the paranoia never really got any better or worse, and was always there.  Then I quit everything for like 8 years.  Now when I (very rarely) smoke I get it really bad, ranging from tolerable to very anxiety producing depending on the setting.  Something about it... Just not much fun anymore.


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: spiny]
    #18804750 - 09/05/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hmm, interesting responses, thanks guys!


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: Harrishroom]
    #18804755 - 09/05/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What is worse, being paranoid or knowing you should be.


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: snoot]
    #18804919 - 09/05/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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What is worse, being paranoid or knowing you should be.



Lol so true. I've been smoking constantly for 3 years at first I was a little paranoid. Now I am never paranoid even when I smoke outside with people around. I really think it depends on the person. Hopefully it won't return but I guess itl be an experiment lolz


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: jp9304]
    #18805017 - 09/05/13 08:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

In my experience, marijuana started to give me horrible paranoia, only when high, after about 18 months of smoking, a year of that being up to 3x/week max. And after this had started it just got progressively worse, until now, when I don't even want to smoke. The only time I use is when I'm drunk and out of my friends volcano, which gives me a nice light, clean feeling high to compliment the alcohol.

I found a description once that fit me perfectly (when high ofc): inward, anxious and socially awkward. Three things I'm the opposite of when sober.


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: MitchyDee]
    #18805238 - 09/05/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My paranoia disappeared after I became a pot head.


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #18805267 - 09/05/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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My paranoia disappeared after I became a pot head.




My paranoia disappeared after I became rational.


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #18805325 - 09/05/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Try Siberian ginseng (Eleuthero root) with your herb if this is becoming an issue.

It is safe to use daily and IME adds an easy warmth to the high; as well as clarity and presence.  I feel a loving glow on this combination.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14898265

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The amygdala, which makes up a part of the brain, is said to be the main region of the brain that is linked to fear and anxiety. As sources would have it, it is believed that thoughts of fear, paranoia, and/or depression-etc., has to do with the fact that there is an imbalance/over activity of the amygdala. This imbalance and/or over activity of the amygdala is due to a zinc definciency.

So, the question is, how can this be fixed? It is suggested that herbal supplements as such as Kava Kava, Siberian ginseng, licorice, and/or valerian root can help reduce an over active amygdala


-http://forums.webmd.com/3/anxiety-and-panic-disorders-exchange/tip/108

If that reading is true; then perhaps supplementing with natural sources of Zinc would help curb the issue: http://www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/best-sources-of-zinc/2011/02/09/id/370378


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: flickedbic]
    #18805562 - 09/05/13 10:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have anxiety issues when I get hit with a depressive state due to my manic depressive. Pot completely destroys any anxiety I end up getting, and reduces the depressive state I can end up in.


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: Jimmyhunter1000]
    #18805908 - 09/06/13 12:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I tend to agree with others on this thread perhaps long-term smoking has led to increased anxiety while high but I've become less and less paranoid over the years and the anxiety is only present if I let it be. In my opinion weed is just like any other psychedelic it's all what you make of it.


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: Nihon_Hyperspace]
    #18806182 - 09/06/13 04:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've been smoking it on an almost daily basis for 4 years or so, and never had any problem.

Then I had a mushroom trip that really pushed me to the edge of sanity, and now whenever I smoke weed, I get paranoid about my sanity.

Like I'm examining how others react to me suddenly while high, or I'll examine my mental images and come to the conclusion that they make no sense at all, and that's when I get really paranoid that something's wrong with me.

I feel better when I get sober, though.


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: Harrishroom]
    #18808887 - 09/06/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Harrishroom said:
Hello all, while reading threads on here I notice a lot of people say they used to smoke cannabis a lot, but don't anymore. And on top of that, they usually say the reason is because it was making them paranoid.. I'm new to smoking (a couple months, a few times a week), I never get bad paranoia, just a bit more cautious about mundane things. So has anyone noticed that the more often and longer they've been smoking, the negative side affects get worse..? Idk maybe I'm crazy, it just seems like a lot of people stop after a long time because of the infamous paranoia. Does this paranoia start to transfer into the sober life? I'm not having a problem, the thought just crossed my mind and interested me. Thanks for any input.



When I turned into a predominant positive person my paranoia went away. I just find weed a waste of time now .


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: Harrishroom]
    #18809635 - 09/06/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Literally ive never gotten paranoia from marijuana
I guess it really does differ from person to person

i think the marijuana experience is far too enjoyable to let paranoia
get in the way, a lot of is just psychological stuff

ive heard it can be reduced quite a bit with meditation (amazing with pot)
idk, i dont have any room to say anything because i havent had paranoia
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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: snoot]
    #18809694 - 09/06/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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What is worse, being paranoid or knowing you should be.




Imagine having a good time smoking with your friends after a long week of work/school, and then your friendly neighborhood police officer walks by and gives you a hard time.
Potential court dates, fines, and your name just gains that much more awesome reputation.

It can affect finding jobs, finding a college, or maybe even your view on life - that something so bad could happen just because something on a piece of paper says you did something society doesn't prefer.

I smoke weed, and I do get nervous. "Because the world is fucked up and I'm a product of what I'm seeing."

I smoke weed in unsafe settings, as carefully/safely as I can. Does that make me paranoid? Shit I can't tell from my perspective lol :bigjoint:


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18809771 - 09/06/13 10:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Going through something similar. I've found smoking has that paranoid feeling tagged along when i have a tolerance to bud. When i wait a week, weeks, or preferably a month now...burning is amazing. I've found this to be true time and time again for me.

A week ago i started getting that burnt out feeling quite often...no dreams (because bud supresses your rem sleep) every night and quit for 4 days...the first three days i have ok sleep and 4th day had the rem return, great dreams...felt sooo good, then smoked and it was all magical again ahah. This again is all IME though and everyone is soooo different it's really crazy and so hard to pinpoint the issue for people most of the time...could be anything


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18809922 - 09/06/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i havent smoked for a month or so now, but i stopped because i was smoking about 3-5 times a week for a year or so, i stopped because it was making me paranoid, but thats because ive been caught a few times and i always had that lingering over me, but then there is also the anxiety and paranoia i would get when i wasnt smoking which was the worst.


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: plasma21]
    #18809935 - 09/06/13 11:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ah that's too bad. Well, I'm still smokin'. Just had an awesome time with some friends at a wildlife refuge, such a beautiful place. We listened to Pink Floyd and about how amazing/horrible life can be, and how we are glad that we are all still good friends.

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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: Harrishroom]
    #18810567 - 09/07/13 05:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I use to smoke about daily, about 2 years ago. But after I started using synthetic marijuana and had a few bad reactions to it, when I smoke weed now, The high feels different. I just feel really antisocial, awkward and withdrawn and get really panicky around people, even my best friends. I figure mine is because of the way that synthetic effects your cannabinoid receptors, and also just a mental association between the two or something weird. But I still will smoke, but it feels more backwards, like the whole high I'm waiting to feel social and happy like I do before I smoked, so after it starts to were off I feel good, but normally that bad feeling(you could call it paranoia) won't carry on past the high, I just feel good after words. But as other users have said before, it really just depends on the person. I would not worry about it, I think weed highs get messed up from other drug use. Mine was from synthetic, I've had friends who say their highs are way different then they use to be from using other drugs more often like acid, not in a bad way; but just different. I think its normal for the high to change as you change, but thats just what I think, take it with a grain of salt.

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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: Grateful Dead]
    #18810616 - 09/07/13 06:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I was always fine. I quit for three years because it affected my sport prestations. After the three year break I smoked again and always got really paranoid. Needless to say, I quit again.


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: GoldenEye]
    #18810683 - 09/07/13 07:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've been smoking weed since September 1977 when I was 13. 36 years ago:laugh:  Aside from some dry spells and abstaining for drug tests, I've been consuming non stop.

If I run out for a week or more and then get a new stash, I'll usually celebrate by smoking up a good amount. That gets me paranoid. It's the loss of tolerance and then a strong dose that does it. If I'm just consuming it like normal I never get paranoid. I tried that Spice/K2 crap a couple years ago and it made me extremely paranoid to the point where I never want to do it again.


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: Harrishroom]
    #18816177 - 09/08/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Harrishroom said:
Hello all, while reading threads on here I notice a lot of people say they used to smoke cannabis a lot, but don't anymore. And on top of that, they usually say the reason is because it was making them paranoid.. I'm new to smoking (a couple months, a few times a week), I never get bad paranoia, just a bit more cautious about mundane things. So has anyone noticed that the more often and longer they've been smoking, the negative side affects get worse..? Idk maybe I'm crazy, it just seems like a lot of people stop after a long time because of the infamous paranoia. Does this paranoia start to transfer into the sober life? I'm not having a problem, the thought just crossed my mind and interested me. Thanks for any input.




No.

I find that the more frequently I use weed the more paranoid/anxious I get, I think it's because it builds up in my system. and yes I do find that this carries on into sober life. However by spacing out my smoking I don't get it [the 'noia] and when I do it doesn't really bother me because I know what it is and I know it'll go away really soon.

The problem with being high a lot is you kind of forget that it's possible to not feeling paranoid/anxious and that's when it really stats to become a problem.

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Plus if become dependent on weed to have a good time, you'll be subject to the unwanted effects all the time. Either your stoned and have the 'noia, or you're sober and feel bored and shit.

If you smoke sparsely and make an effort to enjoy sobriety than you can chose between the pleasurable effects of sobriety and the pleasurable effects of being stoned each with their own downsides. 


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: Dawks]
    #18816369 - 09/08/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My paranoid delusions just change. Nonsmoking I think there is some illuminati group or groups trying to take over the world. Stoned I think that cop knew I was high. With constant smoking all anxiety and paranoia give way to"fuck it guess we will see"


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: Smeagol]
    #18816380 - 09/08/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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My paranoid delusions just change. Nonsmoking I think there is some illuminati group or groups trying to take over the world. Stoned I think that cop knew I was high. With constant smoking all anxiety and paranoia give way to"fuck it guess we will see"




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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #18816577 - 09/08/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

There are some motherfuckers who are trying to get me or grab my stash.


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Re: Does the paranoia get worse with experience?? [Re: mpd]
    #18817948 - 09/09/13 06:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you get EXTREME paranoia you're probably on your way into mental illness and should never smoke again. I think a little bit of paranoia that is amusing is okay.

You'll fuck everything up for yourself with mental illness. It's so boring. If it's not boring, it's the kind of horrible debilitating fear that a piss-ant homosexual Asperger's kid would have with a gun held to its head.

If you have a bad time on drugs repeatedly isn't it the worst fucking idea ever to just try again? It's your brain. Unless you're insane already and don't care about living and dying, it's akin to slashing your wrists or something.


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