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Re: Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18802130 - 09/05/13 05:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I am hammered.




That's pretty clear. Based on the PM you sent it's pretty clear you're an angry drunk.


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Re: Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18802177 - 09/05/13 05:48 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Seems to be a lot of that going around these days. :lol:


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Re: Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius [Re: Icelander]
    #18802235 - 09/05/13 06:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Too much. It's a shame people lose control over themselves.


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Re: Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #18802240 - 09/05/13 06:24 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Kids mostly.  Just learning about life and believing they got it down.


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Re: Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius [Re: Icelander]
    #18802252 - 09/05/13 06:33 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Wait until they realize that much of what they know and think is wrong.


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Re: Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #18803758 - 09/05/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Wait until they realize that much of what they know and think is wrong.



Like that Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house.  It's sad that they get their world news from comedians and entertainment figures but it just goes to illustrate the vapidity of most young people.  There are honest youngsters like the guy who started the I don't give a fuck thread, which is fine, but then there are the ignoramuses who are uninformed and don't know it and continue to babble complete bullshit.


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Re: Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18803906 - 09/05/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Wait until they realize that much of what they know and think is wrong.



Like that Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house.  It's sad that they get their world news from comedians and entertainment figures but it just goes to illustrate the vapidity of most young people.




It is sad, but "they saw it on the internet so it must be true".


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There are honest youngsters like the guy who started the I don't give a fuck thread, which is fine,




Admirable, but rare.

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but then there are the ignoramuses who are uninformed and don't know it and continue to babble complete bullshit.




Pathetic, but all too common.


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Re: Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18804018 - 09/05/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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You have nothing.  Prove the Senate reports wrong.  Prove the administration officials wrong.  Prove that the dodgy dossier is wrong. I've got evidence.  You have nothing besides "believe me," "believe GWB," "believe Cheney." 

You can't.  You're wrong.



Please provide a link from the Senate Reports.  Thanks in advance.





I've already given the link to the Senate reports.  You should go read them and stop being an ignorant, old, piece of nothing.
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So if I wrote a book... that would be proof?

Cool. I'll get right on it.





Your book wouldn't convince anybody but idiots like Sarah Palin and Zappa.



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Right.  All my links are nothing.  Even your link proves you wrong.  That's what happens when you don't read them.




You haven't posted any links, you old, old POS.



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Yeah, you have nothing (both LDS & ZIG).  Peace.




You made a claim.

You were asked to back it up.

You can't, or won't.



Yet we have nothing.

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Everything I've posted backs up my "claims."  You have nothing. My evidence is overwhelming once again.  It is clear you are nothing but a piece of ....



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I've already posted a quality article that calls him on his bullshit, and he ignored it.  I bet he comes in here and tries to spin your words, insults your intelligence, and possibly call you names.

Don't count on any intelligent conversation, just remember, he started this thread with the title "Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius."




Personal attacks: the foundation of any good argument. Keep it up, you'll go far here.


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Re: Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius [Re: setb]
    #18804261 - 09/05/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It's kind of funny but the link you cite from him supports my position.  We are clearly not dealing with a Mensa member here.


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Re: Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18804443 - 09/05/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Speaking of vapid, Sarah Palin sayin 'Let Allah sort them out' That's about as vapid as you get, and a very very callous thing to say. That's nice she isn't troubled by the death and destruction that happen away from her little reality tv show bubble. I sure am glad she isnt in any part of government, yea she makes a great reality tv star and a pundit who riles up her own base. She serves nothing to discourse except making politics more and more polarized and uncouth. I think this former beauty queen and her rabid anti-intellectualism is to bizarre for even herself to believe. Unfortunately we have people like this on both political parties.

For example, I don't think Obama is a Kenyan muslim socialist out to destroy the USA like a lot of xenophobic jingoists and morons believe. However, I do disagree with the president on his expansion of executive power, some of his foreign policy moves, some of his domestic agenda. I think as a progressive he has stabbed any progressive thinker in the back. He reminds me more of a cross between GWB and Bill Clinton. Except lacking the political acumen of GWB,and lacking the foreign and fiscal strengths of Bill Clinton.

Lets acknowledge the absolute need for more inclusion of "third party" choices, the last truly viable third party has to itleast go back to the Whigs, but this democracy needs more choice. We have to pick between two political parties that more or less, think, do and operate at almost the same exact wave length, otherwise we will have a very dichotomous situation in this country where politics and its discourse will become more reactionary and divisive.


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Re: Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18804467 - 09/05/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Speaking of vapid, Sarah Palin sayin 'Let Allah sort them out' That's about as a vapid as you get, and a very very callous thing to say. That's nice she isn't troubled by the death and destruction that happen away from her little reality tv show bubble. I sure am glad she isnt in any part of government, yea she makes a great reality tv star and a pundit who riles up her own base. She serves nothing to discourse except making politics more and more polarized and uncouth. I think this former beauty queen and her rabid anti-intellectualism is to bizarre for even herself to believe. Unfortunately we have people like this on both political parties.


  There is nothing anti-intellectual about Sarah Palin and she is completely right that there are no good guys in this fight.  I don't want to be al Qaeda's airforce.  I would take her over Obama any day.  I would take a severed foot over Obama.
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For example, I don't think Obama is a Kenyan muslim socialist out to destroy the USA like a lot of xenophobic jingoists and morons believe.




I don't think he is a Kenyan Muslim either but I do think that his policies are extremely deleterious to American and utterly antithetical to its founding vision and cause of glory.
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However, I do disagree with the president on his expansion of executive power, some of his foreign policy moves, some of his domestic agenda. I think as a progressive he has stabbed any progressive thinker in the back. He reminds me more of a cross between GWB and Bill Clinton. Except lacking the political acumen of GWB,and lacking the foreign and fiscal strengths of Bill Clinton.




The only strength Obama has is weasel polishing.  He is a serial job applicant who sucks at every job once he gets it.
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Lets acknowledge the absolute need for more inclusion of "third party" choices, the last truly viable third party has to itleast go back to the Whigs, but this democracy needs more choice. We have to pick between two political parties that more or less, think, do and operate at almost the same exact wave length, otherwise we will have a very dichotomous situation in this country where politics and its discourse will become more reactionary and divisive.




Bull Moose was the last viable third party and the Whigs were not, I believe, a third party.  I think the third party then was the Dems.


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Re: Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18804588 - 09/05/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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There is nothing anti-intellectual about Sarah Palin




Look I don't know the woman personally, she could read Dostoevsky in her spare time, or is a fan of the writings of Spengler,or a Mensa member. Her very being exudes campiness, even fellow republicans don't take her seriously, sure they appreciate her ability to raise money, but she has also supported candidates who run against their own establishment incumbents.

Now, I don't necessarily think that limited air-strikes or effects based operations is the solution in Syria, im not sure what the solution is, but if you are afraid of being "Al Qaeda's airforce" then you should equally realize that I don't want to protect scumbags like Hizb Allah, who last I checked rammed a explosives laden truck into our Embassy in Beirut, and weeks later then slammed another explosives laden truck into the Marine Barracks resulting in one of the largest losses of life of marines in one day since WWII. Then these Syrian Cocksuckers have the gall to hack our Marines' website exhorting this very same message, Not to be an "Airforce for Al Qaeda and actually exhorting our troops to fight with their army against "Al Qaeda" Even though this regime poured money into sunni and baathist rebels in Iraq whose weapons killed and maimed thousands of our soldiers and marines.

The second and third things we agree on, im not that rabid in my dislike for Obama, a typical lying politician, they are a dime a' dozen, especially coming from Illinois politics which is a synonym for political corruption. Obama like I said has stabbed progressives in the back so hard, that even pro-liberal blogs like CrooksandLiars.com are calling for his head.

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Bull Moose was the last viable third party and the Whigs were not, I believe, a third party.  I think the third party then was the Dems.




LOL, I was actually going to say this, but I wasn't sure if the Bull Moose party actually landed Roosevelt the presidency, although I know it was a very popular political party at its peak. The whigs were certainly a third party, they did elect two presidents. William Henry Harrison and Millard Fillmore.


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Re: Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18804630 - 09/05/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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There is nothing anti-intellectual about Sarah Palin




Look I don't know the woman personally, she could read Dostoevsky in her spare time, or is a fan of the writings of Spengler,or a Mensa member. Her very being exudes campiness, even fellow republicans don't take her seriously, sure they appreciate her ability to raise money, but she has also supported candidates who run against their own establishment incumbents.[/qupote]

A lot of the establishment Republicans do not like her.  Fuck them, they suck.
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Now, I don't necessarily think that limited air-strikes or effects based operations is the solution in Syria, im not sure what the solution is, but if you are afraid of being "Al Qaeda's airforce" then you should equally realize that I don't want to protect scumbags like Hizb Allah, who last I checked rammed a explosives laden truck into our Embassy in Beirut, and weeks later then slammed another explosives laden truck into the Marine Barracks resulting in one of the largest losses of life of marines in one day since WWII. Then these Syrian Cocksuckers have the gall to hack our Marines' website exhorting this very same message, Not to be an "Airforce for Al Qaeda and actually exhorting our troops to fight with their army against "Al Qaeda" Even though this regime poured money into sunni and baathist rebels in Iraq whose weapons killed and maimed thousands of our soldiers and marines.




There is no reason to get involved at all.  None.  They are both sides scum.  I wouldn't piss on any of them if they were on fire.
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The second and third things we agree on, im not that rabid in my dislike for Obama, a typical lying politician, they are a dime a' dozen, especially coming from Illinois politics which is a synonym for political corruption. Obama like I said has stabbed progressives in the back so hard, that even pro-liberal blogs like CrooksandLiars.com are calling for his head.




You got your ruinous healthcare and he's moving to gun control and government paying for tuition.  Progressives have no beef and if they complain they just expose themselves as the whiny brats I always knew they were.
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Bull Moose was the last viable third party and the Whigs were not, I believe, a third party.  I think the third party then was the Dems.




LOL, I was actually going to say this, but I wasn't sure if the Bull Moose party actually landed Roosevelt the presidency, although I know it was a very popular political party at its peak. The whigs were certainly a third party, they did elect two presidents. William Henry Harrison and Millard Fillmore.




He did not win as Bull Moose but he made a credible showing.  I believe the Whigs predated the Democrats so that is why I said the Dems were the third party at the time.


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Re: Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18804859 - 09/05/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius [Re: imachavel]
    #18806262 - 09/06/13 05:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Speaking of vapid, Sarah Palin sayin 'Let Allah sort them out'




She may not be a part of the government but I sure wish someone involved has this attitude. Tell me: who's side should we take? The brutal dictator or Al-Quida?

I have an idea, since you seem like such a rabid hawk bent on starting WW3: you pick up a rifle and you fight.


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Re: Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius [Re: setb]
    #18807641 - 09/06/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/obama-enters-the-lions-den-us-president-to-talk-syria-in-russia/article14118653/?service=mobile

Apparently Obama and Putin have agreed to disagree. Im glad these people could work this out like gentlemen


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Re: Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius [Re: setb]
    #18807860 - 09/06/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Speaking of vapid, Sarah Palin sayin 'Let Allah sort them out'




She may not be a part of the government but I sure wish someone involved has this attitude. Tell me: who's side should we take? The brutal dictator or Al-Quida?

I have an idea, since you seem like such a rabid hawk bent on starting WW3: you pick up a rifle and you fight.




Because your exaggerations of Al Qaeda and their all encompassing strength and power are ludicrous. Al Qaeda is completely decentralized, Zawihiri couldn't even prevent a merger between his own organizations he is supposed to be head of. Their has been even increasing fights between Al Nusra and Al Qaeda in Iraq leadership on how command should be delegated.

I don't see how i'm a hawk for debating in a thread about Syria, because you disagree with me. I don't even advocate military action or strikes. I only thing we should arm the FSA and its more moderate elements who have absolutely nothing in common with Al Qaeda or Jabhat al Nusra.

I Have no intention of flying to Turkey, sneaking into Syria a war that isn't my own, that's why I believe we should give the moderate forms of FSA weapons, because my biggest fear is once Assad starts losing more and more of his territory, more and more chemical weapons WILL fall into the hands of maybe not so nice fellas. Remember this war started over people wanting to oust a dictator and have more say in their government, it was a wholly secular uprising, but jackoff jihadi's have to steal other folks' thunder for their own PR 

But not im definitely not going to do what this guy did.
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Re: Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18807874 - 09/06/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It seems you are making a stronger case for supporting Assad. 

I believe, as Putin does, that Kerry is lying about the makeup of the rebels in order to appease his foot in the mouth boss's ego.  They are at least half jihadist nutcases and they are better organized than whatever passes for a moderate in nutcakeland.


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Re: Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18807972 - 09/06/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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It seems you are making a stronger case for supporting Assad. 

I believe, as Putin does, that Kerry is lying about the makeup of the rebels in order to appease his foot in the mouth boss's ego.  They are at least half jihadist nutcases and they are better organized than whatever passes for a moderate in nutcakeland.





So you would rather have Hizb Allah and Iran on Israel's doorstep, Assad has his fingers in many pies, whatever his situation it wont change facts on the ground. the conflict in Ireland had their loyalists, their radicals and their moderates, that's how peace comes about. People in Syria who are from Syria do not want a perpetual jihad, remember the reason Assad was protested against was because of a stagnant economy and the fact he represses any other opposition or democratic check on his power.

Either way, Syria, and Assad will fall, eventually in a very protracted war, or if not a civil war that's going to last for a long long time and will inevitably draw in other countries and escalate further shiia sunni conflict.


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Re: Sarah Palin, foreign policy genius [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #18807992 - 09/06/13 04:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

We just cant let radical salafist jerk offs who give one shit about Syria, or the Syrian state, once Assad falls, which I think is inevitable, almost all of Syria is Sunni. Get their hands on any type of chemical weapons which im sure Assad has some laying around, ive heard even Syrian chemical weapons were tested on Darfurian rebels by Sudan several years ago, so we know they have stockpiles.


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