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22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA)
    #18803724 - 09/05/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's a really high number...more than 1/5 pregnant woman choose to have an abortion. I'm doing a paper on this statistic for sociology class. The problem with this stat is that abortion clinics report to no one but themselves. There is no checks and balances in the industry...Interested to hear your thoughts/opinions! Might benefit my paper :wink:


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Magicman69]
    #18803727 - 09/05/13 03:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's really surprising and I find it kind of hard to believe, but at the same time I think it's plausible.

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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Sheekle] * 7
    #18803732 - 09/05/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Good.  It should be higher.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18803737 - 09/05/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Good.  It should be higher.



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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Sheekle]
    #18803740 - 09/05/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I believe the abortion rate is much higher in other countries, it's a form of birth control.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Sheekle] * 1
    #18803754 - 09/05/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yea I mean if a woman is pregnant with a child they don't want, I think abortion is a sensible thing. I mean it is all up to the mother, and if they don't want the child then abort it! It will save us money in the long run and will help curb our population growth so I am all for it.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: qman]
    #18803759 - 09/05/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Sheekle] * 4
    #18803760 - 09/05/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
Good.  It should be higher.



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We do kind of have a population problem...like on earth...just saying:shrug:


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18803765 - 09/05/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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MisterSandman said:
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Sheekle said:
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Mush4Brains said:
Good.  It should be higher.



:thefuckisthis:




We do kind of have a population problem...like on earth...just saying:shrug:



Oh, I'd thought the population problem was on mars.

I'd think the people who don't want children shouldn't be getting pregnant in the first place, rather than having to have an abortion.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18803767 - 09/05/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

so that means that the population of the US should be like 400 million or something?

Maybe one of these babies had a solution for the ecconomic crisis, but too bad, its in the dumpster now...


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18803769 - 09/05/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Over population is a global problem more than an USA issue. Our birth rate to death is 1.2. Africa's is like 4.3 or something really high. And they're life expectancy is only 55..so they're really popping kids out


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Magicman69] * 1
    #18803782 - 09/05/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

if 35% miscarry and 20% are aborted thats a 50% chance of a baby coming out after sex and theres like a 10% chance it's autistic past a certain age. :dawerp:


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #18803791 - 09/05/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Oh the 22% figure does not include miscarriages or abortions because of birth defects.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Sheekle]
    #18803796 - 09/05/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Sheekle said:
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Sheekle said:
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Mush4Brains said:
Good.  It should be higher.



:thefuckisthis:




We do kind of have a population problem...like on earth...just saying:shrug:



Oh, I'd thought the population problem was on mars.

I'd think the people who don't want children shouldn't be getting pregnant in the first place, rather than having to have an abortion.



True in theory but condoms break and even the pill craps out occasionally. I mean it could happen to you, suppose you bang every day and don't want a kid and then, boom, pregnancy? :shrug:


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Sheekle]
    #18803835 - 09/05/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Sheekle said:
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MisterSandman said:
Quote:

Sheekle said:
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Mush4Brains said:
Good.  It should be higher.



:thefuckisthis:




We do kind of have a population problem...like on earth...just saying:shrug:




I'd think the people who don't want children shouldn't be getting pregnant in the first place, rather than having to have an abortion.




I totally agree, but unfortunately a lot of people are retarded.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Synthe]
    #18803857 - 09/05/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Abortion is such a touchy topic. Its very ignorant so say a 12 week old is not a human being and can be killed at will by the mother. At that point they have beating hearts, hands, feet and sex. On the other hand its ignorant to tell woman what she can and can not do with her own body. You would think with all the birth control methods, the abortion rate would be significantly lower. I think abortions should be frowned upon, not publicly funded, but also available when necessary. How do we as a country become more responsible with our reproductive organs?


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Magicman69]
    #18803863 - 09/05/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Damn thats high i had no idea they were killing that many :sad::sad:


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Magicman69]
    #18803869 - 09/05/13 03:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

But do they have brains?

My cat has a brain. I know for a fact she doesn't think, it's all nature.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Magicman69]
    #18803873 - 09/05/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Patlal said:
so that means that the population of the US should be like 400 million or something?

Maybe one of these babies had a solution for the ecconomic crisis, but too bad, its in the dumpster now...




Maybe they were the next unibomber.  That's such a tired argument.

Of course people should be working to prevent pregnancy, but there are enough fucking kids in foster care already, just fucking abort it.

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Its very ignorant so say a 12 week old is not a human being and can be killed at will by the mother.




It's a clump of cells, not a human being.  It has no emotional or physical feelings.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18803902 - 09/05/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.irisremembers.com/resources/development.cfm

Week 3
Sperm meets egg within the fallopian tube and the miracle of life begins. Although several sperm may penetrate the egg's outer layer, only one sperm will enter the ovum and fertilize it. In the middle of the ovum, the chromosomes of mother and father splash about and bits of information from both begin to form the chromosomes of your baby. At the moment of conception, your baby's gender is determined thanks to the sex chromosomes in the father's sperm. Fertilization, the joining of the sperm and the egg in the fallopian tube (top right) to form a unique human being, occurs. Forty-six chromosomes provide the blueprint for the embryo's physical characteristic

The picture on the right is a fertilized egg only thirty hours after conception. Magnified here, it is no larger than the head of a pin.
Still rapidly dividing, the developing embryo, called a zygote at this stage, floats down from the fallopian tube and towards the uterus.

Conception is the moment at which the sperm penetrates the ovum. Once fertilized it is called a zygote, until it reaches the uterus 3-4 days later.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Magicman69]
    #18803909 - 09/05/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Abortion is such a touchy topic. Its very ignorant so say a 12 week old is not a human being and can be killed at will by the mother. At that point they have beating hearts, hands, feet and sex. On the other hand its ignorant to tell woman what she can and can not do with her own body. You would think with all the birth control methods, the abortion rate would be significantly lower. I think abortions should be frowned upon, not publicly funded, but also available when necessary. How do we as a country become more responsible with our reproductive organs?




Having a heart, hands, and feet, does not make it human. I could cut off all of those items off my body and I am still me, the brain or nervous system is what we are, a 12 week fetus does not have that, so the comparison is not there in my opinion.


Edited by qman (09/05/13 04:03 PM)


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Konyap]
    #18803911 - 09/05/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Week 10
The embryo is now about 1 inch in length. Facial features, limbs, hands, feet, fingers, and toes become apparent. The nervous system is responsive and many of the internal organs begin to function.

The baby has begun moving inside the womb although it's too small for mom to notice. Most of the joints are formed now - elbow, wrist, knee, shoulder, and ankle as well as the hands, fingers, feet and toes.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Magicman69]
    #18803916 - 09/05/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

22%?  Yeah right.  If only.  Maybe they count the morning after pill or something.  Even then I don't believe it.
















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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Konyap]
    #18803919 - 09/05/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you go 10 weeks and find out you need an abortion all of a sudden, well I guess your birth control didn't work:lol:


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Magicman69]
    #18803920 - 09/05/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Gasp, You mean we live in an age of medical science where people make choices about their biological functions every day? And the world hasn't ended? Shocking.

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Maybe one of these babies had a solution for the ecconomic crisis, but too bad, its in the dumpster now...




Or maybe that baby was born, but got killed by a kid whose mom couldn't afford birth control or an abortion.

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Magicman69 said:
Its very ignorant so say a 12 week old is not a human being...



I think it's ignorant to say it is. The argument in a nutshell, between two beliefs.

Whatever your feelings or reasons  are, the world that has safe abortions is better than the one without.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: qman]
    #18803931 - 09/05/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Magicman69 said:
Abortion is such a touchy topic. Its very ignorant so say a 12 week old is not a human being and can be killed at will by the mother. At that point they have beating hearts, hands, feet and sex. On the other hand its ignorant to tell woman what she can and can not do with her own body. You would think with all the birth control methods, the abortion rate would be significantly lower. I think abortions should be frowned upon, not publicly funded, but also available when necessary. How do we as a country become more responsible with our reproductive organs?




Having a heart, hands, and feet, does not make it human. I could cut off all of those items off my body and I am still me, the brain or nervous system is what we are, a 12 week fetus does not have that, so the comparison is not here in my opinion.




The species is human all the way through. Whether it should be considered a person is up for debate.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: psi]
    #18803937 - 09/05/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Now we're all specist:lol:


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: psi]
    #18803962 - 09/05/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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qman said:
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Magicman69 said:
Abortion is such a touchy topic. Its very ignorant so say a 12 week old is not a human being and can be killed at will by the mother. At that point they have beating hearts, hands, feet and sex. On the other hand its ignorant to tell woman what she can and can not do with her own body. You would think with all the birth control methods, the abortion rate would be significantly lower. I think abortions should be frowned upon, not publicly funded, but also available when necessary. How do we as a country become more responsible with our reproductive organs?




Having a heart, hands, and feet, does not make it human. I could cut off all of those items off my body and I am still me, the brain or nervous system is what we are, a 12 week fetus does not have that, so the comparison is not here in my opinion.




The species is human all the way through. Whether it should be considered a person is up for debate.




I agree, but we are our brains, so what value does a 12 week undeveloped human brain have?  Not much.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: qman]
    #18803970 - 09/05/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I had an abortion but I was really, really sick.

Either way, pro choice all the way.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Konyap]
    #18803975 - 09/05/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The fact that there is no regulation in the industry is what troubles me. The only numbers we have to go by are those that clinics choose to report..and they have an agenda.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Magicman69]
    #18803981 - 09/05/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I had to sign a shit ton of papers, they do report them. Trust me. Because the state wants to know if they made me follow the stupid waiting laws and shit.

They do report them.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #18803992 - 09/05/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I had to sign a shit ton of papers, they do report them. Trust me. Because the state wants to know if they made me follow the stupid waiting laws and shit.

They do report them.




Well you know crack babies actually have a chance to lead pretty successful lives.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Konyap]
    #18803997 - 09/05/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, maybe, probably. Who knows.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #18804003 - 09/05/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah, maybe, probably. Who knows.




My mistake...?


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Konyap]
    #18804011 - 09/05/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah fuck kids man! I'm not having kids for atleast 10 years and is want any girl who I accidentally go pregnant to get an abortion! I take all the precautions but just saying, if somehow it happened, I'd want her to get an abortion. Because straight out, in not ready, responsible or stable enough to have kids! Wouldn't be fair to the kid.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Konyap]
    #18804013 - 09/05/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What? lol


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #18804049 - 09/05/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Being able to get an abort makes people live more by their desires

Maybe it would be better if it had consequences going out every weekend fucking strangers?

One possibility for a child, better get it right


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: lessismore]
    #18804052 - 09/05/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah well ive been with my guy for almost a decade and had I not gotten so sick, things would've been different.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: lessismore]
    #18804064 - 09/05/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Being able to get an abort makes people live more by their desires

Maybe it would be better if it had consequences going out every weekend fucking strangers?

One possibility for a child, better get it right




My friends step dad has a family, he told me he had sex with 70 people by the time he was 17.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Konyap]
    #18804067 - 09/05/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I had to sign a shit ton of papers, they do report them. Trust me. Because the state wants to know if they made me follow the stupid waiting laws and shit.

They do report them.




Well you know crack babies actually have a chance to lead pretty successful lives.



Crack babies was propaganda honestly, they're 99% normal, but if you had a mom who was on crack then you're probably in a poor economic present state and that's why a lot of them happen to have messy lives :shrug:


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18804109 - 09/05/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
Good.  It should be higher.




It's funny how the pro-abortion folks aren't even trying to hide it anymore.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Lynnch]
    #18804147 - 09/05/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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the world that has safe abortions




The pro-abortion crowd likes to spout this off on the regular, but...



The media almost completely ignored this case, lest they turn the tide of public opinion on their precious eugenics program.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18804166 - 09/05/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
Good.  It should be higher.




I completely agree. Many people's lives are ruined by having kids and not being ready. Not to mention the population is growing at an alarming rate.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: RockyRaccoon]
    #18804199 - 09/05/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Exactly, the anti-abortion fucktards seems to forgot that although life is precious it has costs.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: setb]
    #18804222 - 09/05/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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setb said:
Quote:

Mush4Brains said:
Good.  It should be higher.




It's funny how the pro-abortion folks aren't even trying to hide it anymore.




Why should I be hiding my opinion about abortion?


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18804291 - 09/05/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I survived abortion! That's how tough I am


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Patlal]
    #18804301 - 09/05/13 05:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You're only tough if you crawled back in after they sucked you out.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18804441 - 09/05/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
Good.  It should be higher.




:manofapproval:

You. You're a good motherfucker.


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Re: 22% of all pregnancies end in abortion (USA) [Re: something super extreme]
    #18805127 - 09/05/13 08:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

"22% of all pregnancies end in abortion"



Sorry. Couldn't help it.


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