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    #18803515 - 09/05/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've reached a point after working for years towards my goals, and taking one setback after another where I just don't care anymore. Used to want to be married, definitely don't want that. Wanted kids too, don't want it. Wanted my career to pick up to satiate my ego, don't want that.

I feel like an animal, the little goals and drive which were drilled into me by society are too much a burden now. Don't want them, don't care. All that being said I'm enjoying my time and still working on 'progressing', but don't feel the same about it.

Anyone have thoughts on what it means to be content? For me right now it equates being tired, and just enjoying what I have without thinking about the future, or the past, or your problems, or my problems.


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Re: Contentment? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18803552 - 09/05/13 02:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Good attitude imo. :thumbup:


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Re: Contentment? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18803747 - 09/05/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like you're figuring it out.
I don't know though :shrug:


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Re: Contentment? [Re: cez]
    #18804107 - 09/05/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i will be content when i can poop freely in public

no, but kinda

contentment comes and goes ime, no stopping the dreams


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Re: Contentment? [Re: Hobozen]
    #18804240 - 09/05/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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i will be content when i can poop freely in public





Move to India dude, they poop in the streets there


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Re: Contentment? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18804508 - 09/05/13 06:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i was actually thinking that


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Re: Contentment? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18805613 - 09/05/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds good to me.  I find contentment is a free position of satisfaction where I'm neither tied down by concerns or driven forward by desires.  It's a progressive thing though, and full contentment is difficult to achieve without some minimum conditions, like not being hungry or dangerously cold.


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Re: Contentment? [Re: DisoRDeR]
    #18806272 - 09/06/13 05:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Societal personal progressive concerns about success and personal contentment in the now seem to be equal conundrums of life. I think the key to this is to find ways to balance them both at the same time, and not fully committing to one or the other, for dissatisfaction of the unknown would envelope us with a full commitment to a single particular lifestyle.


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Re: Contentment? [Re: DisoRDeR]
    #18806480 - 09/06/13 08:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It's a progressive thing though, and full contentment is difficult to achieve without some minimum conditions, like not being hungry or dangerously cold.




The minimum conditions I think would be subjective, the more tired I get the less I care what I do or don't have. Contentment in hunger and without shelter is certainly possible, perhaps not under torture

I'm just too tired to care anymore, which is its own form of contentment


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Re: Contentment? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18806622 - 09/06/13 09:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I can say that with the lessening of energy due to aging I care a lot less about almost everything.


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Re: Contentment? [Re: Icelander]
    #18808305 - 09/06/13 05:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

there is a lot about contentment in taoism, and it seems like you have reached a point, by literally giving up on your desires/attachments, etc, that a great taoist sage would be proud of.  Being content with what you have is excellent.
quote from bhagavad gita: ( I know its not taoist, but my tao the ching is not around me at the moment, but this will do)
But the man who delights in the self,
who feels pure contentment and finds
perfect peace in the self-
for him there is no need to act

He has nothing to achieve by action
nothing to gain by inaction
nor does he depend on any
person outside himself

without concern for results
perform the necessary action
surrendering all attachments
accomplish life highest good

Hope that helps...


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Re: Contentment? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18808379 - 09/06/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Repertoire89 said:
I've reached a point after working for years towards my goals, and taking one setback after another where I just don't care anymore. Used to want to be married, definitely don't want that. Wanted kids too, don't want it. Wanted my career to pick up to satiate my ego, don't want that.

I feel like an animal, the little goals and drive which were drilled into me by society are too much a burden now. Don't want them, don't care. All that being said I'm enjoying my time and still working on 'progressing', but don't feel the same about it.

Anyone have thoughts on what it means to be content? For me right now it equates being tired, and just enjoying what I have without thinking about the future, or the past, or your problems, or my problems.




I think contentment is a stillness of sorts. And not in the conventional sense of not moving. Because then you get restless. Like if you were to be strapped to a board unable to move anything but your eyes. You'd get really restless and just the ability to scratch your balls would be such a blessing.

But a stillness of desires. Not getting what you want nor getting what you don't want. If desires are still, there is no wanting to begin with.

I dunno how to really find perfect stillness in this way though. It seems like a fairy tale to me. Not to mention that trying to find perfect stillness would only push it away because it would be a desire, confusing the whole issue even more. I've settled for, in the same way as you, focusing on what's right here. Not much else to be done. But that hardly means the fairy tale is true, that desires don't come up, that things that I don't want to happen, don't happen. There's contentment in the mix, sure, but that's not all.

I find contentment is a product of circumstance in many ways although IME there are ways to increase the number of circumstances in which it is present.


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Re: Contentment? [Re: Kickle]
    #18809022 - 09/06/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Those are some interesting points, overall I've felt more content since dropping eastern philosophy. Dropping the whole search for contentment altogether has brought me a lot more peace, its too ironic for words


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Re: Contentment? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18809051 - 09/06/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: Contentment? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18809218 - 09/06/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Searching for contentment has made it very apparent that peace isn't something I'm likely to experience for an extended amount of time.


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Re: Contentment? [Re: Memories]
    #18809259 - 09/06/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:thumbup:  All I've gotten is some of what I call "golden moments". :shrug:


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Re: Contentment? [Re: Memories]
    #18809371 - 09/06/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Searching for contentment has made it very apparent that peace isn't something I'm likely to experience for an extended amount of time.




At your age I couldn't imagine feeling as stress free as I feel now, what a mess. My life isn't much more stable now but just tired of caring, it takes a bit of energy to worry about shit


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Re: Contentment? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18809534 - 09/06/13 09:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Tired... I'm so tired of all this...


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Re: Contentment? [Re: Icelander]
    #18809682 - 09/06/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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:thumbup:  All I've gotten is some of what I call "golden moments". :shrug:




*Yeah, way to give up bros!* (sarcasm)


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Re: Contentment? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18810274 - 09/07/13 02:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I've reached a point after working for years towards my goals, and taking one setback after another where I just don't care anymore. Used to want to be married, definitely don't want that. Wanted kids too, don't want it. Wanted my career to pick up to satiate my ego, don't want that.

I feel like an animal, the little goals and drive which were drilled into me by society are too much a burden now. Don't want them, don't care. All that being said I'm enjoying my time and still working on 'progressing', but don't feel the same about it.

Anyone have thoughts on what it means to be content? For me right now it equates being tired, and just enjoying what I have without thinking about the future, or the past, or your problems, or my problems.





What were you practicing that you failed at?

The best teacher on this planet for internal alchemy and awareness:

http://mantakchia.com/


Most of his teachings are free and posted online for everyone.


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Re: Contentment? [Re: teknix]
    #18810279 - 09/07/13 02:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Here's all of his video's (or most of them) for free as well. (As we should expect from an enlightened teacher)

http://www.youtube.com/user/utcoffice/videos?view=0


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Re: Contentment? [Re: teknix]
    #18810466 - 09/07/13 04:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

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:thumbup:  All I've gotten is some of what I call "golden moments". :shrug:




*Yeah, way to give up bros!* (sarcasm)




How does telling  my actual experience in life equate with giving up?  Had I given up I would not have had those almost perfect moments.


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    #18810745 - 09/07/13 08:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

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What were you practicing that you failed at?

The best teacher on this planet for internal alchemy and awareness:

http://mantakchia.com/


Most of his teachings are free and posted online for everyone.




I haven't failed at anything, the setbacks in my life are entirely financial at this point. Enough to drive someone crazy being that my situation has recently turned up so I'm worse off financially than I was at 18, just keep going in circles in that sense.

I don't need a teacher, if someone's going around proselytizing to people they could learn a lot from me but I don't take students


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Re: Contentment? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18810783 - 09/07/13 08:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've always cultivated contentment. It became a necessary attitude once my highest goals were dashed on the rocks of life. I never consciously wanted prestige, but there were subtle desires for a kind of prestige that were killed when I was rejected from training in a particular school of psychology. I then took to being content with a lifestyle as an over-qualified professional working beneath my potential, but I chose to be the best at where I landed. I did have two months off in the summer for almost 3 decades, and worked only 212 out of 365.25 days per year, so I had time to play even if I wasn't making big bucks. Now, whatever little ambition I had professionally is pretty much gone. I did write a book that I'd really like to publish, but on the other hand, it's kind of like a drawing I had as a kid that I'd take out and add to now and again. It was a machine with a large diamond-like crystal that absorbed energy from the sun. My book ends with the Tibetan Buddhist notion of the Diamond Body that dwells in the solar lotus of the Heart. I'm not gonna make money from this book, I just want to share a story about some interesting things that have happened to me, so it's a matter of self-expression. But then again, there's that self sneaking back in wanting some recognition before I die. :shrug: That's the opposite of contentment. :tongue:

Contentment is not equal to being life-weary. It is a genuine appreciation of the things we have, in the relative absence of ambition, or desire for 'more.' I appreciated the yellow Ferrari I saw rip up the boulevard yesterday, leaving Lambourghini of Miami, but I don't secretly wish I owned one. That desire would put me as I am today in hock, or I'd have to be a different me altogether for me to afford it. If I owned it, I wouldn't be the married me, because that car is for transporting strippers, and high-end call girls IMO. No, I have a 10 year old silver Mazda Miata, with only 26,000 miles and my wife has a 7 year old silver Mazda 3, with maybe 18,000 miles, and a status car is not something we think about. Just a concrete example. We're more content than most people we meet.


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Re: Contentment? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #18810825 - 09/07/13 08:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I've always cultivated contentment.

then again, there's that self sneaking back in wanting some recognition before I die. :shrug: That's the opposite of contentment. :tongue:

Contentment is not equal to being life-weary. It is a genuine appreciation of the things we have, in the relative absence of ambition, or desire for 'more.'

leaving Lambourghini of Miami, but I don't secretly wish I owned one.




Sounds like eastern philosophy, too much stress for me trying to think along certain patterns. Would rather settle with what I have


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Re: Contentment? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18810875 - 09/07/13 09:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Settling always seems to have disappointment woven into it, where contentment is a genuine appreciation. But those are just my semantics. My wife is beautiful, but she isn't the image of my perfect female fantasy. Yet I am content to be with her and I don't sneak around trying to find my fantasy. Besides, I might find an appearance of my fantasy, but it is doubtful that she'd have the substance of interior qualities. It is best to eliminate my idiotic desire for a certain appearance and appreciate what I have - someone who is into me as I am into her. There is no "eastern philosophy" about it, just common sense.


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Re: Contentment? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #18811245 - 09/07/13 11:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I was pretty disappointing about a lot of things, and could choose to be so now. Its not worth the effort in caring though, fuck it


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