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starlighter
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I think I found a Reishi ?
#18803434 - 09/05/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hi, is this Reishi? I'm going to make a tea with it but I want to make sure it is Reishi first... thanks...
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: starlighter]
#18803449 - 09/05/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Unfortunately not.
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: Tangich]
#18803456 - 09/05/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's reishi
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: vjp]
#18803461 - 09/05/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Really??
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: Tangich]
#18803493 - 09/05/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea, why not?
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: vjp]
#18803535 - 09/05/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks very atypical to me. Too yellow. Never seen them looking like this, even when old and/or sun-bleached. And the real G. lucidum we have here has a stipe even when growing from trees.
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: Tangich]
#18803586 - 09/05/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ganoderma Tsugae, possibly. Sometimes high C02 environments can cause mutations. Size shape and color can be affected.
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: dodeski]
#18804175 - 09/05/13 05:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks like Piptoporus betulinus to me... But what do I know? Was it on birch, dead or alive?
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: fry day]
#18804289 - 09/05/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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it was alive ..not sure what but i think tree stump and it was around a area where other reishi looking ones were also growing.... do you think its safe to try a tea with?
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: starlighter]
#18804409 - 09/05/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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No joy, battling TI's. If no TI chimes in seconding birch polypore, then not.
lmgtfy
Research the suggestions you've been given and see what YOU think, you've got the thing.
In the meantime, you might get it sliced and dried. Cross section pics might help resolve.
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: fry day]
#18804832 - 09/05/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Alright thanks for helping though...I think its reishi...or that other ganoderma tsugae one but even if im wrong there are no known species in polypores that are poisonous so if it is a polypore then no matter if its reishi or not this is safe to consume right?
Edited by starlighter (09/05/13 07:50 PM)
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: starlighter]
#18805245 - 09/05/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeh, but there'd be no point in bothering to prepare it for tea if it's not one of the good ganodermas.
BUT, if you don't do something to get it dry quickly it's gonna rot. Catch-22.
Did you section it?
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: fry day]
#18805940 - 09/06/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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All tree conks contain immunomodulating compounds. All known tree conks are edible as of today's knowledge database.
-------------------- "People use the word "natural" ... What is natural to me are these botanical species which interact directly with the nervous system. What I consider artificial is 4 years at Harvard, and the Bible, and Saint Patrick's cathedral, and the Sunday school teachings." -Timothy Leary “You are an explorer, and you represent our species, and the greatest good you can do is to bring back a new idea, because our world is endangered by the absence of good ideas. Our world is in crisis because of the absence of consciousness.” ― Terence McKenna "In defying the authority we become the authorities" - Unknown
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: dodeski]
#18805992 - 09/06/13 12:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Where you at? Might be g. curtisii. Cut it in half and show us the flesh, reishi has a nice red tone to it. EDIT Either way, it might be too old and nasty to be of use.
Edited by RiparianZoneJunky (09/06/13 12:59 AM)
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: dodeski]
#18806012 - 09/06/13 01:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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dodeski said: All tree conks contain immunomodulating compounds. All known tree conks are edible as of today's knowledge database.
I was beginning to suspect that...
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: fry day]
#18806501 - 09/06/13 08:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Even if it is birch polypore....it has many medicinal uses...It can be used as a antiseptic and a anesthetic. You can make a field bandaid out of it. or it can be used in dried form to start fires. They found some on that iceman dude...the 5000 yr. old mummy. Pretty cool stuff, I must say. M
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baltimark said: Even if it is birch polypore....it has many medicinal uses...It can be used as a antiseptic and a anesthetic. You can make a field bandaid out of it. or it can be used in dried form to start fires. They found some on that iceman dude...the 5000 yr. old mummy. Pretty cool stuff, I must say. M
Piptoporus betulinus has an awful acidic smell (reminds me of when we synthesized aspirin/salicylic acid in high school chemistry) and it is only used to get rid of worms/intestinal parasites. If I remember the mechanism of action correctly, it does so by giving you massive diarrhea, so while I doubt that is what it is, I don't recommend anyone going around eating birch polypores.
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You can make a field bandaid out of it.
Extremely effective, too. At least as much so as a man made one.
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it is only used to get rid of worms/intestinal parasites. If I remember the mechanism of action correctly, it does so by giving you massive diarrhea, so while I doubt that is what it is, I don't recommend anyone going around eating birch polypores.
I have not read this. It may be used for those things but I've not read about it being it's only use.
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: Untitled]
#18806723 - 09/06/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Untitled said:
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You can make a field bandaid out of it.
Extremely effective, too. At least as much so as a man made one.
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it is only used to get rid of worms/intestinal parasites. If I remember the mechanism of action correctly, it does so by giving you massive diarrhea, so while I doubt that is what it is, I don't recommend anyone going around eating birch polypores.
I have not read this. It may be used for those things but I've not read about it being it's only use.
Nor did I....there is a wealth of information available though. I actually ate a small piece last weekend ...wasn't that terribly acidic smelling or tasting and I did not get anything near diarrhea. I also made a bandaid out of it.which does indeed work...it sticks to itself like plaster.
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HOW did you make a bandaid? Just take a slice thru the whole conk? Enquiring minds wanna know!
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: fry day]
#18806845 - 09/06/13 10:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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When you find one in a young white state, you can peel off the pore surface which is a mm or so thick, and cut it to size.
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: Untitled]
#18806858 - 09/06/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ah, thanks. I bet this would work with any of the Ganodermas and Fomes also.
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: fry day]
#18808128 - 09/06/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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i cut it up inside it looks liek thatredish brown color
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: starlighter]
#18808517 - 09/06/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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starlighter said: i cut it up inside it looks liek thatredish brown color
I'd call it reishi then.
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Can Reshi be used to encompass a genus or is it used only for the Ganoderma Lucidum? I have read that Lucidum, Tsagae and organense are genetically similar but grow from different substrates. For example Tsagae suposedly only grows on hemlock while Oregonense grows on Douglass fir. They also differ microscopically in size and shape.
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: dodeski]
#18814987 - 09/08/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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heres pictures of the inside...

thanks for helping... do you think it is still good enough to make a tea ?
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: starlighter]
#18815318 - 09/08/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well that Is actually a hard question to answer. Basically this it is a piece of perishable food. Mushrooms can be a host to numerous bacteria and pathogens that can cause food born illness.
The first questions I would ask myself are;
Does this mushroom look like it is in severe decay (does it look fresh)? Does it smell putrid, rancid or rank? Does it feel putrid? Most bacteria can be killed in a long steep of boiling water. It is not the bacteria that gets you sick though, in most cases, it's their accumulated toxic excrement which will leach into your water..
-------------------- "People use the word "natural" ... What is natural to me are these botanical species which interact directly with the nervous system. What I consider artificial is 4 years at Harvard, and the Bible, and Saint Patrick's cathedral, and the Sunday school teachings." -Timothy Leary “You are an explorer, and you represent our species, and the greatest good you can do is to bring back a new idea, because our world is endangered by the absence of good ideas. Our world is in crisis because of the absence of consciousness.” ― Terence McKenna "In defying the authority we become the authorities" - Unknown
Edited by dodeski (09/08/13 02:18 PM)
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: dodeski]
#18815752 - 09/08/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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dodeski said: Well that Is actually a hard question to answer. Basically this it is a piece of perishable food. Mushrooms can be a host to numerous bacteria and pathogens that can cause food born illness.
The first questions I would ask myself are;
Does this mushroom look like it is in severe decay (does it look fresh)? Does it smell putrid, rancid or rank? Does it feel putrid? Most bacteria can be killed in a long steep of boiling water. It is not the bacteria that gets you sick though, in most cases, it's their accumulated toxic excrement which will leach into your water..
Good post. @ OP, it's hard to tell whether it's old and moldy or growing new mycelium and just eating itself. Looks pretty old and past it's prime to me. What I would do is throw this one out, note the location where you found it and come back a few times after warm rains. IME, g. lucidum likes the heat of summer with lots of rainfall, and can grow very large in a matter of days. Once you find some fresh conks, now that you can confidently ID it, you could harvest some. Look up how to make a reishi tincture online, that is IMO, the easiest and best way to take advantage of it's health benefits.
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Best to slice and dry or tincture as soon as you finish photography/sporeprint, same day or no later than next day after collection, frig it overnight if you must. These fungi break down very quickly.
That looks rotten to me.
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Re: I think I found a Reishi ? [Re: fry day]
#18816086 - 09/08/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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ya alright , thank you...
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