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ghiajake
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I had planned on doing it outdoors anyways. Girlfriend would have my ass for doing it inside. Need to get some new clean straw first though.
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Re: Lime soaking straw [Re: ghiajake]
#18892295 - 09/26/13 01:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just wanted to share a pic of mushrooms growing on lime treated straw. ~9lbs straw, 8 jars of spawn.
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CAP_TURTLE
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any idea how much the bag weighs overall? Also how do you weigh your straw? I have buckets of HK variety pinning like crazy and have been picking outgrows pulmonarius strain but it is still fruiting very weak :/ So I won't share those.......
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deadmandave
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the log probably weighs about 35 lbs total. I estimated the weight of the straw based on how much of the bale i used when chopping/pasteurizing. so all these numbers are just estimations
im using pulmonarius as well. How old is your culture & what's your spawn ratio?
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My culture was one from outgrow and not old at all. My spawn ratio is approximately 2-2.5lbs of spawn to a 5 gallon bucket.
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ghiajake
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So I did my first attempt at lime pasteurizing straw today. Did enough for one bag each of King and Pink Oysters. I have a question. I plan on spawning from grain to plugs for noc'ing downed trees and stumps. My question is has anyone tried lime pasteurizing dowels?
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Re: Lime soaking straw [Re: ghiajake]
#18962208 - 10/11/13 12:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Seems that plugs(hard wood) might benefit from heat pasteurization by allowing the higher temps to expand the less dense, outer wood or the adhering, resin layers within. These checks and cracks created in the process would allow spawn to gain foot holds within the plug's core. However, A dose of Lyme surly couldn't hurt by saturating the heated, opened .pores of the inner wood .
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ghiajake
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Re: Lime soaking straw [Re: cubenpete]
#18962249 - 10/11/13 12:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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That brings up another thought. Creating a mild to moderate vacuum on the plugs while soaking should help open the pores of the wood without over saturation. I've noticed it helps with my grain spawn hydration when I pour boiling water onto dry grains in a 5 gallon bucket, then seal the lid, shake, burp, and repeat until the lid stays sucked in. Really sucks the plastic bucket in tight on the sides. I think I'll try a batch of plugs vacuum sealed during lime pasteurizing soak in a couple quart jars and see how they do.
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Re: Lime soaking straw [Re: ghiajake]
#18962288 - 10/11/13 01:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You could use a vacuum sealer... I use mine to marinate mushrooms and veggies, really gets the marinade deep into the organism.
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ghiajake
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I borrowed my gf's mom's food sealer, I just don't know if the vacuum would be strong enough to open the pores of the wood without heat. No harm in giving it a shot though.
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Re: Lime soaking straw [Re: ghiajake]
#18962436 - 10/11/13 02:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's under vacuum, after you vacuum seal it, put it in a pot of boiling water. I'm sure it's enough to force water into them though.
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akalais
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Would lime work on sawdust too?
Following this thread, since I'm very interested on the viability of chemical pasteurization.
Edited by akalais (10/11/13 01:07 PM)
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ghiajake
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Re: Lime soaking straw [Re: akalais]
#18967921 - 10/12/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I did see either on this thread or one of the others about lime pasteurizing sawdust. If I remember correctly it worked good.
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Re: Lime soaking straw [Re: ghiajake]
#18970854 - 10/13/13 01:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah i tried it for p pulmonarius. It did work nice. I mixed the lime and water together and then mixed water with the sawdust until it was hydrated.. and that was it! pasteurized! all 9 bags i made colonized without a problem and fruited wonderfully.
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ghiajake
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What ratio of lime to water did you use?
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Re: Lime soaking straw [Re: ghiajake]
#18970873 - 10/13/13 01:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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