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GloomShroom
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FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes)
#18802681 - 09/05/13 10:08 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey guys, feel free to call me Gloomy, but I'm most likely gonna shell out the $10 to change my name since I cant delete my account, since 5 mins after registering I thought of something way more badass that still rhymed and was about mycology... :P
ANYWAYS, first grow EVER. I read a bunch of stuff, so I was hoping for some one on one personal advice for what I already bought and the strains I am going to grow. I consider myself intelligent, and have OCD so can be sanitary, no worries there. So yeah I wanted to skip the PF Cakes method. Why? Mostly because of 2 reasons; 1. I cant afford a pressure cooker for 2 weeks, maybe longer, so I figured this way I could get started and inoculate my spawn(I think I'm using the right terms, been studying on here and youtube for 2 weeks non-stop.), which I bought 4 I think rye berry quart jars and 4 BRF mycobags from Out-Grow. Its all already pre-sterilized so yeah. I know I will most likely NEED a PC so I will buy one in 2 weeks or whenever I get the money. BUT YES TRY TO RECCOMEND A METHOD WHERE I CAN GET A FIRST BATCH DONE WITHOUT A PC!! and 2. 70% of cake pics dont seem to put off very much and either that or just the spray method seems to give contaminations very easily.
oh and I live in the southwest, aka pretty desert-y, and it is really quite dry most of the year, I am more likely to get less mold/fungi then, right?
I also bought 4 bags of sterilized coconut coir mix, some 70mm filters, some 0.2 Micron syringe filters(figured they'd be useful, at least at making more jars when I get a PC eventually, or something), alcohol swabs, vinyl gloves, a lab coat, face/mouth masks, a hygrometer/thermometer.
I bought 2 spore syringes. I got Albino A+ and Golden Teachers (love the looks of each, sound like alright potencey, fruiting output, and ease of growth.)
I will be growing in a closet, with an area between 16 and 24 inches wide(door to back) and almost 5 feet long(horizontal) and over 3 feet tall. I was kinda wanting like 2 big tubs or something.
What teks/method should I use? What should I use as bulk substrate and stuff? I want to use coconut coir, read good things, and I just feel like horse poo would kinda smell and gross me out a little regardless.
what else do I need for your intended setup?
Thank you all in advance, shroom-brethren. Wish me many flushes.
Edited by GloomShroom (09/05/13 10:34 AM)
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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: GloomShroom]
#18802688 - 09/05/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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So yeah I wanted to skip the PF Cakes method. Why? Mostly because of 2 reasons; 1. I cant afford a pressure cooker for 2 weeks, maybe longer, so I figured this way I could get started and contaminate my spawn(I think I'm using the right terms, been studying on here and youtube for 2 weeks non-stop.), which I bought 4 I think rye berry quart jars and4 BRF mycobags from Out-Grow. Its all already pre-sterilized so yeah. I know I will most likely NEED a PC so I will buy one in 2 weeks or whenever I get the money. BUT YES TRY TO RECCOMEND A METHOD WHERE I CAN GET A FIRST BATCH DONE WITHOUT A PC!!
That would be PF TEK the ONLY method that doesn't involve a PC
"Contaminate your spawn?" I think you might have to study some more! Hahaha - kidding, welcome!
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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: mycomattie]
#18802711 - 09/05/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Remove the vendor name from your post. Spores sold from vendors are for microscopy use only.
Unless you order all pre-sterilized bags, you're going to need a pressure cooker.
If you order pre-sterilized rye bags, you can use coir/verm as a substrate, pasteurize it, then spawn your grains to it in something like a monotub
Edited by Trippy_Penguin (09/05/13 10:20 AM)
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GloomShroom
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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: mycomattie]
#18802719 - 09/05/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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really now? Because all the videos and pics ive seen they all were using a PC. my bad.
edit: hahaha I just realized what I wrote. inoculate!!
Edited by GloomShroom (09/05/13 10:33 AM)
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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: Trippy_Penguin]
#18802728 - 09/05/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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My bad! Sorry. Fixed.
I am ordering all pre-sterilized. Well so far all Ive got is the coco coir mix, BRF mycobags, and the rye berry quart jars. I was waiting to find out what I should use as a bulk substrate and casing and what not or whatever, but yes I was gonna get that pre-sterilized too.
Thank you! I expect a long and intimate relationship on this forum in the near future.
Edited by GloomShroom (09/05/13 10:26 AM)
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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: GloomShroom]
#18802742 - 09/05/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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A mixture of coir, vermiculite, and gypsum makes a great substrate that if pretty simple to prep. Later you can add things like horse poo if you'd like.
As long as you stick to cubes, you won't need a casing layer.
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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: Trippy_Penguin]
#18802754 - 09/05/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's what I was thinking, thanks! And I think I said this in my post, maybe not, but yeah I want to avoid horse poo, forever. I assume it smells, at least a little, and it kinda just grosses me out anyways, haha. I heard worm poo is great though and doesn't smell? But yeah the reason I went with the coco coir is because I read that it is naturally less likely to get contams.
Casing is a layer of non-nutritive substance that helps with moisture right? Or am I getting it mixed up with something else?
Edited by GloomShroom (09/05/13 10:35 AM)
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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: GloomShroom]
#18802833 - 09/05/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I thought the same regarding the poop, but when is cured, it smells like soil/earthy. Trust me, I was scared shit, that if my GF caught me fucking around with horse manure she'd kick me out; that's just not the case when it's done right.
And, you can get these results.......
 
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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: mycomattie]
#18802857 - 09/05/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well maybe in the future, but for now I don't want to, larger margin for error being a first timer newbie and all. :P
edit: so your girl (who I assume lives with you?) doesn't know about your grow?? xD
And, you can get these results.......
  
Fucking NOICE bruv!!! soooo thick....wall to wall of the fruit of my labours is my dream...
Edited by GloomShroom (09/05/13 11:06 AM)
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GloomShroom
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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: GloomShroom]
#18806315 - 09/06/13 06:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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bump?
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mycomattie



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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: GloomShroom]
#18806329 - 09/06/13 06:31 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Casing is a layer of non-nutritive substance that helps with moisture right? Or am I getting it mixed up with something else?
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Yup, exactly! But a casing layer isn't needed for cubensis.
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GloomShroom
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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: mycomattie]
#18806352 - 09/06/13 06:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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mycomattie said:
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Casing is a layer of non-nutritive substance that helps with moisture right? Or am I getting it mixed up with something else?
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Yup, exactly! But a casing layer isn't needed for cubensis.
other psilocybin containing strains then I assume? cause I keep reading about casing on this forum...
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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: GloomShroom]
#18806356 - 09/06/13 06:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Guys, I JUST GOT MY SPORE SYRINGES IN THE MAIL last night, AND EVEN GOT A FREE ONE!!! It says something(numbers I think) texas...I heard its a cyan-something not a cube, and is one of the strongest psilocybins in the whole world...??
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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: GloomShroom]
#18806461 - 09/06/13 07:58 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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GloomShroom said:
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mycomattie said:
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Casing is a layer of non-nutritive substance that helps with moisture right? Or am I getting it mixed up with something else?
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Yup, exactly! But a casing layer isn't needed for cubensis.
other psilocybin containing strains then I assume? cause I keep reading about casing on this forum...
Don't worry about "casings". It's used wrong every day here, where people call their bulk substrates a casing. Casing layers is not needed for cubes, but some find it helpful.
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GloomShroom said: Guys, I JUST GOT MY SPORE SYRINGES IN THE MAIL last night, AND EVEN GOT A FREE ONE!!! It says something(numbers I think) texas...I heard its a cyan-something not a cube, and is one of the strongest psilocybins in the whole world...?? 
Your pan cyans would require one, along with some poo. They are less forgiving than cubes, but about 2x as potent.
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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: spacechildo]
#18806544 - 09/06/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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other psilocybin containing strains then I assume? cause I keep reading about casing on this forum...
Yeah - in Psilocybes, species in the mexicana (Mexicana, tampanensis, galindoi) require a casing layer; as do all mushrooms in the Genus Panaeolus.
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Guys, I JUST GOT MY SPORE SYRINGES IN THE MAIL last night, AND EVEN GOT A FREE ONE!!! It says something(numbers I think) texas...I heard its a cyan-something not a cube, and is one of the strongest psilocybins in the whole world...??
Does it say Pan cyanescens? If not, it's likely Texas cubensis
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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: mycomattie]
#18807166 - 09/06/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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it just says PE6 - Texas #1
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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: spacechildo]
#18807230 - 09/06/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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like only the 2nd person to actually help me with some useful info! thanks dude
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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: GloomShroom]
#18807262 - 09/06/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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No problem - PE6 is a cross between PE and Texas. Coincidentally, the pic I posted above is PE6
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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: mycomattie]
#18807791 - 09/06/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I actually meant the guy above you, hahah, awk... but thank you too!! 
SWEET. penis envys are always so FAT and have giant thick lookin caps too (everyone says the caps are more concentrated in psilocybin and psilocin, I think its true I.M.E.)
can you link me to some more pics of this PE6 Texas??
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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: mycomattie]
#18807793 - 09/06/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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oh which of the 3 strains should I grow the most of first?
Albino A+ Golden Teachers or the "PE6 Texas #1"
edit: What pressure cooker should I buy?? and I'd prefer an electric one so I can be discreet....and should I buy one used or is that bad?
Edited by GloomShroom (09/06/13 03:19 PM)
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