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FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes)
    #18802681 - 09/05/13 10:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hey guys, feel free to call me Gloomy, but I'm most likely gonna shell out the $10 to change my name since I cant delete my account, since 5 mins after registering I thought of something way more badass that still rhymed and was about mycology... :P

ANYWAYS, first grow EVER. I read a bunch of stuff, so I was hoping for some one on one personal advice for what I already bought and the strains I am going to grow. I consider myself intelligent, and have OCD so can be sanitary, no worries there. So yeah I wanted to skip the PF Cakes method. Why? Mostly because of 2 reasons; 1. I cant afford a pressure cooker for 2 weeks, maybe longer, so I figured this way I could get started and inoculate my spawn(I think I'm using the right terms, been studying on here and youtube for 2 weeks non-stop.), which I bought 4 I think rye berry quart jars and 4 BRF mycobags from Out-Grow. Its all already pre-sterilized so yeah. I know I will most likely NEED a PC so I will buy one in 2 weeks or whenever I get the money. BUT YES TRY TO RECCOMEND A METHOD WHERE I CAN GET A FIRST BATCH DONE WITHOUT A PC!!
and 2. 70% of cake pics dont seem to put off very much and either that or just the spray method seems to give contaminations very easily.

oh and I live in the southwest, aka pretty desert-y, and it is really quite dry most of the year, I am more likely to get less mold/fungi then, right?

I also bought 4 bags of sterilized coconut coir mix, some 70mm filters, some 0.2 Micron syringe filters(figured they'd be useful, at least at making more jars when I get a PC eventually, or something), alcohol swabs, vinyl gloves, a lab coat, face/mouth masks, a hygrometer/thermometer.

I bought 2 spore syringes.
I got Albino A+ and Golden Teachers (love the looks of each, sound like alright potencey, fruiting output, and ease of growth.)

I will be growing in a closet, with an area between 16 and 24 inches wide(door to back) and almost 5 feet long(horizontal) and over 3 feet tall. I was kinda wanting like 2 big tubs or something.

What teks/method should I use? What should I use as bulk substrate and stuff? I want to use coconut coir, read good things, and I just feel like horse poo would kinda smell and gross me out a little regardless.

what else do I need for your intended setup?

Thank you all in advance, shroom-brethren. Wish me many flushes. :wink:


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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: GloomShroom]
    #18802688 - 09/05/13 10:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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So yeah I wanted to skip the PF Cakes method. Why? Mostly because of 2 reasons; 1. I cant afford a pressure cooker for 2 weeks, maybe longer, so I figured this way I could get started and contaminate my spawn(I think I'm using the right terms, been studying on here and youtube for 2 weeks non-stop.), which I bought 4 I think rye berry quart jars and4 BRF mycobags from Out-Grow. Its all already pre-sterilized so yeah. I know I will most likely NEED a PC so I will buy one in 2 weeks or whenever I get the money. BUT YES TRY TO RECCOMEND A METHOD WHERE I CAN GET A FIRST BATCH DONE WITHOUT A PC!!





That would be PF TEK :shrug: the ONLY method that doesn't involve a PC

"Contaminate your spawn?"  I think you might have to study some more!  Hahaha - kidding, welcome!


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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: mycomattie]
    #18802711 - 09/05/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Remove the vendor name from your post. Spores sold from vendors are for microscopy use only. :rules:

Unless you order all pre-sterilized bags, you're going to need a pressure cooker.

If you order pre-sterilized rye bags, you can use coir/verm as a substrate, pasteurize it, then spawn your grains to it in something like a monotub :thumbup:


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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: mycomattie]
    #18802719 - 09/05/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

really now? Because all the videos and pics ive seen they all were using a PC. my bad.

edit: hahaha I just realized what I wrote. inoculate!! :wink:


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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: Trippy_Penguin]
    #18802728 - 09/05/13 10:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My bad! Sorry. Fixed.

I am ordering all pre-sterilized. Well so far all Ive got is the coco coir mix, BRF mycobags, and the rye berry quart jars. I was waiting to find out what I should use as a bulk substrate and casing and what not or whatever, but yes I was gonna get that pre-sterilized too.

Thank you! I expect a long and intimate relationship on this forum in the near future. :stoned:


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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: GloomShroom]
    #18802742 - 09/05/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

A mixture of coir, vermiculite, and gypsum makes a great substrate that if pretty simple to prep. Later you can add things like horse poo if you'd like.

As long as you stick to cubes, you won't need a casing layer.


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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: Trippy_Penguin]
    #18802754 - 09/05/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's what I was thinking, thanks!
And I think I said this in my post, maybe not, but yeah I want to avoid horse poo, forever. I assume it smells, at least a little, and it kinda just grosses me out anyways, haha. I heard worm poo is great though and  doesn't smell? But yeah the reason I went with the coco coir is because I read that it is naturally less likely to get contams.

Casing is a layer of non-nutritive substance that helps with moisture right? Or am I getting it mixed up with something else?


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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: GloomShroom]
    #18802833 - 09/05/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I thought the same regarding the poop, but when is cured, it smells like soil/earthy.  Trust me, I was scared shit, that if my GF caught me fucking around with horse manure she'd kick me out; that's just not the case when it's done right.

And, you can get these results.......



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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: mycomattie]
    #18802857 - 09/05/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well maybe in the future, but for now I don't want to, larger margin for error being a first timer newbie and all. :P

edit: so your girl (who I assume lives with you?) doesn't know about your grow?? xD



And, you can get these results.......






Fucking NOICE bruv!!! :laugh: soooo thick....wall to wall of the fruit of my labours is my dream... :smile:


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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: GloomShroom]
    #18806315 - 09/06/13 06:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: GloomShroom]
    #18806329 - 09/06/13 06:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Casing is a layer of non-nutritive substance that helps with moisture right? Or am I getting it mixed up with something else?


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Yup, exactly!  But a casing layer isn't needed for cubensis.


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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: mycomattie]
    #18806352 - 09/06/13 06:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Casing is a layer of non-nutritive substance that helps with moisture right? Or am I getting it mixed up with something else?


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Yup, exactly!  But a casing layer isn't needed for cubensis.




other psilocybin containing strains then I assume? cause I keep reading about casing on this forum...


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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: GloomShroom]
    #18806356 - 09/06/13 06:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Guys, I JUST GOT MY SPORE SYRINGES IN THE MAIL last night, AND EVEN GOT A FREE ONE!!! It says something(numbers I think) texas...I heard its a cyan-something not a cube, and is one of the strongest psilocybins in the whole world...?? :shocked:


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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: GloomShroom]
    #18806461 - 09/06/13 07:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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GloomShroom said:
Quote:

mycomattie said:
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Casing is a layer of non-nutritive substance that helps with moisture right? Or am I getting it mixed up with something else?


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Yup, exactly!  But a casing layer isn't needed for cubensis.




other psilocybin containing strains then I assume? cause I keep reading about casing on this forum...




Don't worry about "casings". It's used wrong every day here, where people call
their bulk substrates a casing.
Casing layers is not needed for cubes, but some find it helpful.


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Guys, I JUST GOT MY SPORE SYRINGES IN THE MAIL last night, AND EVEN GOT A FREE ONE!!! It says something(numbers I think) texas...I heard its a cyan-something not a cube, and is one of the strongest psilocybins in the whole world...?? :shocked:




Your pan cyans would require one, along with some poo.
They are less forgiving than cubes, but about 2x as potent.


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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: spacechildo]
    #18806544 - 09/06/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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other psilocybin containing strains then I assume? cause I keep reading about casing on this forum...




Yeah - in Psilocybes, species in the mexicana (Mexicana, tampanensis, galindoi) require a casing layer; as do all mushrooms in the Genus Panaeolus.

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Guys, I JUST GOT MY SPORE SYRINGES IN THE MAIL last night, AND EVEN GOT A FREE ONE!!! It says something(numbers I think) texas...I heard its a cyan-something not a cube, and is one of the strongest psilocybins in the whole world...?? :shocked:





Does it say Pan cyanescens?  If not, it's likely Texas cubensis


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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: mycomattie]
    #18807166 - 09/06/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

it just says PE6 - Texas #1


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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: spacechildo]
    #18807230 - 09/06/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

like only the 2nd person to actually help me with some useful info! thanks dude


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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: GloomShroom]
    #18807262 - 09/06/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No problem - PE6 is a cross between PE and Texas.  Coincidentally, the pic I posted above is PE6


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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: mycomattie]
    #18807791 - 09/06/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I actually meant the guy above you, hahah, awk...
but thank you too!! :laugh:

SWEET. penis envys are always so FAT and have giant thick lookin caps too (everyone says the caps are more concentrated in psilocybin and psilocin, I think its true I.M.E.)

can you link me to some more pics of this PE6 Texas??


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Re: FIRST grow ever! Help me make it a success! (bulk, not PF cakes) [Re: mycomattie]
    #18807793 - 09/06/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

oh which of the 3 strains should I grow the most of first?

Albino A+
Golden Teachers
or the "PE6 Texas #1"

edit: What pressure cooker should I buy?? and I'd prefer an electric one so I can be discreet....and should I buy one used or is that bad?


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