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InvisiblePestile

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Re: Why are my mushrooms not. .... community built FAQ [Re: tbagtag]
    #18800514 - 09/04/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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tbagtag said:
I was trying to find something positive that came out of this thread, but unfortunately there really isn't anything.  This goes to show why we cant have nice things around here....





Sure we can! Screw what the pessimists are saying!


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Invisiblehankstymcbankerson

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Re: Why are my mushrooms not. .... community built FAQ [Re: tbagtag]
    #18800543 - 09/04/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

There have to be new threads, even if they are rehashed. If every question is answered, no one would ever "need" to post, and then the community dies.

To socialize a bit, sure, some people create threads to ask a question that has been answered before.

Some people are just generally lazy, some want to feel helpful, some want to feed an ego.

But, I believe community and the social aspect of a forum would die off if no new threads were created because everyone "UTFSE".

So, it is what it is I guess. The circle of life. Noobs, those in the helpful stage, and those in the grumpy old man stage 

:bigyesnod:


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InvisibleSpitballJedi
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Re: Why are my mushrooms not. .... community built FAQ [Re: tbagtag]
    #18800563 - 09/04/13 07:05 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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tbagtag said:
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SpitballJedi said:
Welcome to the Shroomery. :thumbup:




I only registered a few months after you Spitball.... I dunno why everyone thinks I'm so new




I know you're not new. I was being playful


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OfflineStromriderM
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Re: Why are my mushrooms not. .... community built FAQ [Re: tbagtag]
    #18800587 - 09/04/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

So many bitter people. I say if you so disgusted with this website then don't use it. Personally I love talking about mushroom cultivation. Whether it's answering some noobs dumb question or discussing advanced or experimental techniques. I thought that was the whole point of the cultivation forum. Some people on this site make me :facepalm:


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Invisibletbagtag
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Re: Why are my mushrooms not. .... community built FAQ [Re: Pestile]
    #18800596 - 09/04/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Pestilence said:
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tbagtag said:
I was trying to find something positive that came out of this thread, but unfortunately there really isn't anything.  This goes to show why we cant have nice things around here....





Sure we can! Screw what the pessimists are saying!





Lol right?  I'll probably asked to have this thread locked or deleted and put together something else that will accomplish the same goal whether it is in journal form or a post.  If anyone is interested they can PM.

And as I always said before, if you dont like what I have to say you can always choose to ignore or put me on ignore.  I don't get worked up over message boards, I am very dry and sarcastic so it gets taken out of context A LOT.  Shit I totally derailed a thread 3 days ago, it happens.

At least the irony in the thread is delicious.


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InvisiblePestile

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Re: Why are my mushrooms not. .... community built FAQ [Re: tbagtag]
    #18800645 - 09/04/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Very much so. :lol:


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Re: Why are my mushrooms not. .... community built FAQ [Re: anne halonium]
    #18800939 - 09/04/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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anne halonium said:
alot of it comes down to ,
peeps dont read.
peeps want instant answers,






That's something even I can agree with, anne. I knew I'd find something! And sadly, it seems to get worse each year.

The typical post goes something like: "I know this has probably been asked a hundred times before, but I want to hear some other/fresh/new opinions on it."  :rolleyes:

I equate that to "I didn't feel like reading through all those other posts with the same question, so I worded my question in a way that would make me not seem lazy"


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Invisibletbagtag
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Re: Why are my mushrooms not. .... community built FAQ [Re: FooMan]
    #18801251 - 09/04/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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FooMan said:
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anne halonium said:
alot of it comes down to ,
peeps dont read.
peeps want instant answers,






That's something even I can agree with, anne. I knew I'd find something! And sadly, it seems to get worse each year.

The typical post goes something like: "I know this has probably been asked a hundred times before, but I want to hear some other/fresh/new opinions on it."  :rolleyes:

I equate that to "I didn't feel like reading through all those other posts with the same question, so I worded my question in a way that would make me not seem lazy"





I agree with this to some effect, but there are legitimate times where the search engine returns very outdated info, then the new poster thinks its gospel and gets flamed.  It's a catch 22 with good intentions.

Usually in those instances you describe Foo, I give an answer if I can and if they keep going for a different answer fishing for what they want to hear I leave it be.

I'll just bite off of NaH and make a copy pasta journal and stamp my answers.  I really enjoy the community discussion that has been occurring in my other thread, not every idea is golden, just thought it would be a good resource to ensure fresh info.

I just hope I dont get jaded to point where I have to flame others for being new (not yours or annes case there Foo).  I think if that time comes for me I'll just take a break from the board and enjoy my fungi.

Didn't really mean to make this a discussion of help the newbies/don't help the newbies, but it is what it is.


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Offlineinvitro


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Re: Why are my mushrooms not. .... community built FAQ [Re: tbagtag]
    #18801712 - 09/05/13 12:47 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I like the sound of a FAQ!


Edited by invitro (09/05/13 06:32 PM)


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InvisibleKjetterfaen
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Re: Why are my mushrooms not. .... community built FAQ [Re: invitro]
    #18801717 - 09/05/13 12:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

And I don't suppose you know of a plugin to this forum structure that accomplishes this? =P

I don't see how it would work anyway. As far as I can see the actual test would either have to be an automated multiple choice / standardized questions test (in which case the solutions would be out in a nanosecond; this is the internet after all) or alternatively would require personal attention from some dedicated moderator.


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Re: Why are my mushrooms not. .... community built FAQ [Re: invitro]
    #18801719 - 09/05/13 12:54 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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invitro said:
Here is an idea that can satisfy both groups.





:smbfacepalm:

Congrats, you have made the shroomery cater to the elitist prick that is most useless when it comes to helping cultivators.



Hey tbag, this thread is fucking nuts.

This is what inevitably happens to this sort of inquiry.

I'd recommend making a journal entry that only you can reply to. That is the best "noob-friendly" advice post you can make...no one can talk shit about it.


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Edited by FrankHorrigan (09/05/13 01:01 AM)


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Offlineinvitro


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Re: Why are my mushrooms not. .... community built FAQ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18801735 - 09/05/13 01:06 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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FrankHorrigan said:
Quote:

invitro said:
Here is an idea that can satisfy both groups.





:smbfacepalm:

Congrats, you have made the shroomery cater to the elitist prick that is most useless when it comes to helping cultivators.



Hey tbag, this thread is fucking nuts.

This is what inevitably happens to this sort of inquiry.

I'd recommend making a journal entry that only you can reply to. That is the best "noob-friendly" advice post you can make...no one can talk shit about it.




This is a great thread, there are already people who don't want to help, my idea makes it so those people don't have to see the nub questions they don't want to see in the first place. 

I'm trying to help, tbag is too, 5 shrooms for you tbag!

Not having a faq and leaving everything in a scattered mess that takes weeks to search through is what is nuts!


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Re: Why are my mushrooms not. .... community built FAQ [Re: invitro] * 1
    #18801738 - 09/05/13 01:10 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Your idea flies in the face of the very idea of this place...

"Everyone can teach someone something."

Is that not how we all get our start?

What you suggest makes it easy to ignore questions people may consider "dumb" or not "worthwhile."

Which will alienate the very base on which the shroomery truly thrives...the newbie who wants to come here and learn from old and new cultivators alike.

Think about when you were new. Would you be pleased to know that everyone had the option to ignore everything you say just because you can't answer a stupid "standardized" test?

Give me a break man :facepalm3:

Personally I would've been pissed.

Cultivation-related communities like this one should never shun new members, actively or passively.


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Re: Why are my mushrooms not. .... community built FAQ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18801743 - 09/05/13 01:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I've had enough.


Edited by invitro (09/05/13 06:33 PM)


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Re: Why are my mushrooms not. .... community built FAQ [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18801744 - 09/05/13 01:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I disagree for the reasons I stated :shrug:

How "you want to interact with it" is taken care of by the handy ignore feature provided.

You feel differently. Well...

My statement stands regardless. This is how I feel about what you said:

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FrankHorrigan said:
Your idea flies in the face of the very idea of this place...

"Everyone can teach someone something."

Is that not how we all get our start?

What you suggest makes it easy to ignore questions people may consider "dumb" or not "worthwhile."

Which will alienate the very base on which the shroomery truly thrives...the newbie who wants to come here and learn from old and new cultivators alike.

Think about when you were new. Would you be pleased to know that everyone had the option to ignore everything you say just because you can't answer a stupid "standardized" test?

Give me a break man :facepalm3:

Personally I would've been pissed.

Cultivation-related communities like this one should never shun new members, actively or passively.




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Re: Why are my mushrooms not. .... community built FAQ [Re: invitro]
    #18801746 - 09/05/13 01:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Again; how would this be implemented? Whether or not it is a good idea is kind of inconsequential if it has no means to operate in the first place, isn't it?


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Re: Why are my mushrooms not. .... community built FAQ [Re: Kjetterfaen]
    #18801755 - 09/05/13 01:29 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

.


Edited by invitro (09/05/13 06:34 PM)


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Re: Why are my mushrooms not. .... community built FAQ [Re: invitro]
    #18801759 - 09/05/13 01:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Because my opinion is that your "testing" option discriminates against new users and that sucks for the very core of this website. I repeated it because I don't think you understand what I am saying.

Just because you don't "feel like" seeing "dumb questions" from new members does not mean that you don't have a worthwhile answer to give them.

I help a shitload of new cultivators despite the fact that I don't particularly feel like it...ever see a silly question you're inspired to respond to? Ever get thanked for it?

That's what makes this place awesome :thumbup:


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Re: Why are my mushrooms not. .... community built FAQ [Re: invitro]
    #18801760 - 09/05/13 01:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

So, if I am understanding you correctly, you don't know the forum-structure or how to implement this? I mean, have you at least seen similar systems on other forums? Because it's usually not a matter of just "quickly coding in an extra function"...


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Re: Why are my mushrooms not. .... community built FAQ [Re: Kjetterfaen]
    #18801762 - 09/05/13 01:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Kjetterfaen said:
So, if I am understanding you correctly, you don't know the forum-structure or how to implement this? I mean, have you at least seen similar systems on other forums? Because it's usually not a matter of just "quickly coding in an extra function"...




:whathesaid:

That too..


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