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rawrrock
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Question on mycelium growth in colder climate
#18801545 - 09/04/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey all, I'm new here and about to start on my first grow, I live in a very cold climate where my house is usually only 60-64 degrees. Would it be beneficial to me to create a warmer space for the jars? I know closets aren't the greatest place for jars due to poor GE, but it's too expensive to heat my whole house. But I've also heard that "incubators" aren't good either. Any advice to a new guy would be extremely helpful! Just picked up a couple Paul Stamets books and not going to start my first grow for a week or two. Thanks everyone.
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PussyFart
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Re: Question on mycelium growth in colder climate [Re: rawrrock]
#18801565 - 09/04/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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rawrrock said: Hey all, I'm new here and about to start on my first grow, I live in a very cold climate where my house is usually only 60-64 degrees. Would it be beneficial to me to create a warmer space for the jars?
It would speed up colonization by a few days, but that's about it....assuming your talking about cubes.
Jars/bags/tubs/trays should colonize @ room temperature getting ambient/indirect light.
Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.
Light is a secondary pinning trigger. For tropical species temperature is not a pinning factor.
P. Cubensis are a tropical species. You could colonize at 70F and fruit at 80F with great results.
Light has been proven beneficial during all stages of mycellium growth. Mushrooms like mammals have a circadian rhythm.
You want ambient/indirect light(on a 12/12 schedule preferably) for colonization and consolidation.
You want direct/intense 6500K light on a 12/12 schedule for fruiting.
Optimal temps are mid 70s throughout the whole grow, but anywhere from 65F-80F is acceptable.
Incubation is outdated/uneeded unless temps in the range stated above cannot be kept.
The inside of the jar is always a few degrees warmer than the outside because the mycellium produces heat..mycellium tends to stall at temps above 86F , and contams thrive.
Fruiting at cooler temps tends to produce denser, meatier fruits, while fruiting at higher temps will often produce hollow, less dense stems.
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rawrrock said: I know closets aren't the greatest place for jars due to poor GE, but it's too expensive to heat my whole house.
Do not worry about GE in a closet, it will be just fine.
Now if you were putting them in a sealed bin in the closet, that would be different.
The jars have holes/filters on them, that is good enough.
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rawrrock said: Any advice to a new guy would be extremely helpful! Just picked up a couple Paul Stamets books and not going to start my first grow for a week or two. Thanks everyone.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Question on mycelium growth in colder climate [Re: PussyFart]
#18801600 - 09/04/13 11:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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The best kind of incubator is the tub-in-tub incubator.
If you'd like to warm your jars a bit, I'd recommend looking at that. 60-64 is pretty cold for decently-paced growth. Having steady, consistent temps in the mid-70s will give you much better performance in all aspects.
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rawrrock
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Re: Question on mycelium growth in colder climate [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18801621 - 09/04/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I really appreciate the time you guys gave to help me out. Thanks a lot!
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Re: Question on mycelium growth in colder climate [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#18804940 - 09/05/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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FrankHorrigan said: The best kind of incubator is the tub-in-tub incubator.
If you'd like to warm your jars a bit, I'd recommend looking at that. 60-64 is pretty cold for decently-paced growth. Having steady, consistent temps in the mid-70s will give you much better performance in all aspects.
I made a tit as close as i could to your tek but i had a question. There is an air pocket where the airpump builds up and then releases with a loud gurgle. Have you run across this? Is there anyway to prevent/fix it?
also less likely could i use this set up to heat up a mini mono? would it still get enough FAE if it were sitting in an opened up tit like you have?
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Re: Question on mycelium growth in colder climate [Re: michgan241]
#18805024 - 09/05/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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But I've also heard that "incubators" aren't good either.
It's not good to have the jars close to a heat source or inside a container that would limit the GE. One thing I experimented with last winter is burying them up to the lid in vermiculite. When it's cold <70F that seems to shave a couple days off the colonization time.
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