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    #18801237 - 09/04/13 09:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: thelightandsound]
    #18801319 - 09/04/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

no instructions? dropping a q tip into some grains?? 120$??

I've got a bridge to sell you  :derfase:


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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: JohnnieYen]
    #18801546 - 09/04/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

like I said I dont really care about the $. Just need to know if after I drop cutip head with spores in over the rye berries if I need to add anything else. Instructions are a bit stupid.


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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: thelightandsound]
    #18801551 - 09/04/13 11:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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like I said I dont really care about the $. Just need to know if after I drop cutip head with spores in over the rye berries if I need to add anything else. Instructions are a bit stupid.



This has fail written all over it.

Spore swabs are not usually 100% clean, there are always going to be contams.

Sure it might work, but it will most likely contam.

Get some agar and some petri dishes, pour a couple plates, and streak the swab an a plate or 2.

Then make a transfer of clean mycellium and use a clean agar wedge to knock up a grain jar.

Simple, and just about guaranteed not to fail.


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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: JohnnieYen]
    #18801627 - 09/04/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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no instructions? dropping a q tip into some grains?? 120$??

I've got a bridge to sell you  :derfase:




:lol:

but i have heard if done correctly it will work.

ultimately, like hacker said.. agar


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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: PhosCap]
    #18801861 - 09/05/13 02:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

so no water must be added?


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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: thelightandsound]
    #18801918 - 09/05/13 02:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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so no water must be added?



Added to what?


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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: PussyFart]
    #18802225 - 09/05/13 06:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds kinda sketchy, OP.  Good luck though!


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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: thelightandsound]
    #18802335 - 09/05/13 07:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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so no water must be added?




Not until the bag is fully colonized and you have transferred the grains to the microbox or whatever you're supposed to grow them in, then add the casing, put the lid on and wait for that to colonize 20-30%, then you dunk* the box, drain the excess water, remove the lid and put it in the bag.

*fill the box with water for 24 hours


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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: Pestile]
    #18803212 - 09/05/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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thelightandsound said:
so no water must be added?




Not until the bag is fully colonized and you have transferred the grains to the microbox or whatever you're supposed to grow them in, then add the casing, put the lid on and wait for that to colonize 20-30%, then you dunk* the box, drain the excess water, remove the lid and put it in the bag.

*fill the box with water for 24 hours



So you want him to soak his rye grains for 24 hours after they have been cased?

What the fuck?

Once you case the grains, wait until the mycellium pokes thru the casing layer and fruit it.

If you are going to dunk the grains, do it for 10-20 minutes right before you lay them in the tray to be cased or right before spawning.

Do not dunk them once cased in a tray.


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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: PussyFart]
    #18803247 - 09/05/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Fuck, I don't even know WHAT he has besides a myco bag. All I did was explain how the "grow kit" he is in possession of shouldn't have water before it was fully colonized. Do you know what he has besides a bag of rye? Do you know if he will be putting it in a tray or if he's using a "make your own growkit" with a microbox?

I don't want to spread bad info, but I once received one of these growkits, though with a syringe, and I thought the instructions for that one would be like his.


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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: Pestile]
    #18804030 - 09/05/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ok, sorry for my lack of explination.

Check it.

The entire mushroom kit came with
1 bag of rye berries in a tall bag
1 cutip with spores on it inside tied bag
1 thing of compost that im supposed to fridge
and a dvd. But the dvd shows them growing some other way.



At the very top of the bag where its tied off. Under that there was a section with a cutip and spores on it im assuming. The directions say to keep the top part tied and then the sporetip which is already inside the bag will be let loose and falls into the rye berries. From there you are supposed to shake it vigorously for 2 minutes. Its not too clear after that. So from that point am I supposed to just let it sit on my counter in a spot thats 70-80degrees until the myc forms?

I guess im just assuming it would need water because how else would it form? The spores just attach to the dry rye berries?

Keep in mind the bag never gets opened even through all of this. It is sealed at the top. It says after the myc has formed in the bag (about 3 weeks) to use the compost it came with and mix it together. This is where im confused as well. Am I mixing it in the bag these rye berries are in? Or do I need to go make a DYI tupperware thing for these bad boys.


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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: thelightandsound]
    #18804079 - 09/05/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

This folks, is why you don't buy growkits!

You're going to get nothing but contamination if you want to drop the whole Q-Tip into the bag.  You won't ever get to needing the compost, unfortunately.  Unless you want to do some agar work I don't see this turning out too well.


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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: thelightandsound]
    #18804083 - 09/05/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm curious, what was the DVD?


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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: thelightandsound]
    #18804117 - 09/05/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Op, I don't doubt your mmj growing skills.  Up until 3 years ago I was in the same field.  But,  mycology is a different beast all together.  This kit sounds awful, but salvageable. But your first post You say you're not taking this seriously.  So here is my fun project that I'm not going to take too seriously: read read read and utsf


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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: tbagtag]
    #18804216 - 09/05/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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thelightandsound said:
so no water must be added?




Not until the bag is fully colonized and you have transferred the grains to the microbox or whatever you're supposed to grow them in, then add the casing, put the lid on and wait for that to colonize 20-30%, then you dunk* the box, drain the excess water, remove the lid and put it in the bag.

*fill the box with water for 24 hours





So the way it is right  now is correct then? Just let it sit until the myce is formed? Also can I use this bag to grow the shrooms? Like when its filled with the myce and im mixing it with the compost it came with. Can I just put it back in the bag and tie it up or do I need to make a small grow chamber? I think I can do it in the bag...
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Op, I don't doubt your mmj growing skills.  Up until 3 years ago I was in the same field.  But,  mycology is a different beast all together.  This kit sounds awful, but salvageable. But your first post You say you're not taking this seriously.  So here is my fun project that I'm not going to take too seriously: read read read and utsf






Im just not sure what can be done. You dont have to feed it. Theres no schedule. So I just figured id get a few shrooms and be happy with it.

Its only day 3 since I dropped the q tip. Is there anything I can do at THIS point right now to help? I mean or should I just let it sit and do its thing until I see the colinization? How long am I looking at?

Its a cambodian strain. I hear it colonizes fast.


So do the spores attach themselves to the rye berries? Is that how it works? Any tips for my current situation?


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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: thelightandsound]
    #18804359 - 09/05/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I would probably stick with NaH's advice if you get a fully colonized bag, make a tray and put some casing on it.

For the time being you need to keep the bag at ~70°F. When 20-30% of the grains are colonized you should shake the bag to spread out the colonized grains.
I don't know much about this type of inoculation so I can really say how spore swab works, that's usually something being used in combination with agar.


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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: Pestile]
    #18804417 - 09/05/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I would probably stick with NaH's advice if you get a fully colonized bag, make a tray and put some casing on it.

For the time being you need to keep the bag at ~70°F. When 20-30% of the grains are colonized you should shake the bag to spread out the colonized grains.
I don't know much about this type of inoculation so I can really say how spore swab works, that's usually something being used in combination with agar.





When will I start to see colinization?


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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: thelightandsound]
    #18804469 - 09/05/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I can take a couple weeks before you see any sign of mycelium.


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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: thelightandsound]
    #18804475 - 09/05/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

1)6 days
2)2 weeks
3)Never
4)Any of the above
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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: thelightandsound]
    #18804480 - 09/05/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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1)6 days
2)2 weeks
3)Never
4)Any of the above
:bigyesnod:




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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: Pestile]
    #18804687 - 09/05/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

They use to sell these in seattle. They hardly ever work, when they do who knows weather they will be cubes or something non active. You got it from planet K? Go get your money back and do it the right way, pf tek for starts.


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Re: Cubensis questions [Re: Pestile]
    #18805608 - 09/05/13 10:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Pestilence said:
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TheHastyTadpole said:
1)6 days
2)2 weeks
3)Never
4)Any of the above
:bigyesnod:




^
This





I agree, and OP sorry if i came off harsh earlier, I am generally on the side of new cultivators, but it caught me off guard with the "not taking it serious" comment.  I dont expect people to live, eat, breath mycology, but I do expect that they put some effort into it.  I have no problem with you, and I know you have this kit with no instructions, but with what you have you are going to need to do some research for even as you put it "a few shrooms".  I'm also not going to harp on the kit - but from everything you described so far I doubt that you will get those.  I hope you prove me wrong, but I also hope you look at some of the other grow kit grows that were attempted on here and it may help shed some clarity on what you have ahead of you.


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