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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #18795141 - 09/03/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I only read the first few posts and I cant believe some people said to divorce your wife like its no big deal?!

I would first talk to your wife and explain how you use plants for spiritual purposes. If she doesnt want anything illegal like that in or near your house then you should respect her wishes and find somewhere else to partake in these experiences. If her problem is you being involved with psychs at all, THEN you would need to proceed and really think out which is more important to you, your marriage or drugs?

I have never been married but I have been in love and I know it isnt something to just throw away. I'm not suggesting you lie to your wife, BUT maybe you go out of town on a "golf trip" for the weekend every once in a while :wink:


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: Judeanpeoplesfront] * 1
    #18795145 - 09/03/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I say its pretty simple dude,either hide it from her or quit. Its not like your doing meth behind her back :shrug:.I'm sure it wouldn't be to hard to hide it from her and she's obviously not going to be convinced that psychedelic aren't what she thinks they are. I say have little 2 day trips with your friends and instead setup camp somewhere and trip, or trip with friends.
I don't know why anyone would break off a marriage because of it unless its very essential to your life.
I wish you the best of luck OP, personally I think she's uneducated and being unfair, the way I see it the bible NEVER says anything about not having herbs or cactus or mushrooms, the CLOSEST thing the bible says is not to be a drunk which I don't think applies to psychedelic use.


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #18795190 - 09/03/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I say its pretty simple dude,either hide it from her or quit. Its not like your doing meth behind her back :shrug:.I'm sure it wouldn't be to hard to hide it from her and she's obviously not going to be convinced that psychedelic aren't what she thinks they are. I say have little 2 day trips with your friends and instead setup camp somewhere and trip, or trip with friends.
I don't know why anyone would break off a marriage because of it unless its very essential to your life.
I wish you the best of luck OP, personally I think she's uneducated and being unfair, the way I see it the bible NEVER says anything about not having herbs or cactus or mushrooms, the CLOSEST thing the bible says is not to be a drunk which I don't think applies to psychedelic use.



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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: jivangilad]
    #18795289 - 09/03/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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She has become very much against it, after one time she took mushrooms with me, and had a bad trip.




At least she was open enough to try it! :laugh:


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #18795379 - 09/03/13 05:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm shocked at the amount of people that are suggesting you leave your wife just because she doesn't condone drug use.




I'm not saying that's my advice, but it's extremely difficult in the long run to maintain a relationship when there are such fundamental differences....






That's what I was somewhat getting at as well...


...Except I don't see how someone would even get to the point of marriage with a person that has such an opposing view on something that's important to them.


I mean psychedelics/entheogens (what ever you want to label them) are an important part of my life, my life isn't centered around them but they're an integral part of my life. I can never see my self getting in a relationship with someone (or even being attracted to someone beyond looks) that thought these things were "satanic" and either refused to or couldn't understand why they were so important to me.


It's fine if they don't want to partake...but if they have a warped & stubborn opposing view, that's only going to drive a wedge into the marriage.



Once again...to the OP, all I can say I guess is try to explain where you're coming from and why they're important to you....you can only try to explain your self to a point, she's either going to get it or not....or you can get some mdma for the two of you :smirk: , then explain your self.






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    #18795386 - 09/03/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: miamigorob]
    #18795413 - 09/03/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I think it's absurd to change your ways or give up something that's important to you for someone else, simply because they don't understand it and because they think it's the devil.





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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: openmind]
    #18795540 - 09/03/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I like OMs response. I guess I can't put myself in the mind of someone who's married to someone so close minded about them. That first trip after the divorce would be interesting


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: jivangilad]
    #18795798 - 09/03/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Does she drink coffee? Tea? Eat chocolate? All of those are mind altering plants. Tell her she needs to give all of those up if she doesn't approve of plants.


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: Dark_Star] * 2
    #18795863 - 09/03/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Does she drink coffee? Tea? Eat chocolate? All of those are mind altering plants. Tell her she needs to give all of those up if she doesn't approve of plants.




I've always seen this as a smart ass response and it will certainly make you look foolish if you bring it up in a debate with soemone about drugs. Because those things are so weak compared to something like mushrooms it's almost as if they're not psychoactive.


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: s240779]
    #18795901 - 09/03/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

But they are psychoactive, thus the point is valid. The foolishness is on the part of the people who chose to use them, but deny others the right to use different plants. "cause my plants are better" :cookiemonster:


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: miamigorob]
    #18795904 - 09/03/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

My wife has also been in an ayahuaska ceremony with me.
She didn't especially like it.
She was more open before to this, and even had a few good trips before with mushrooms, but then had this terrible trip.
Besides thinking its satanic, it sits on a deep fear she has.
I can understand even this fear, because those powerful plants can be dangerous. I am aware they are dangerous, but I feel they are calling me, and I have to use them.
I spoke to her about the benefits for me, but obviously, her emotions are strong, especially fear, and therefore she doesn't understand.
What makes it worse is that most people don't understand about the plants, and our christian community also greatly adds to the objection.
It is hard to hide it from her, and she would feel betraid if she finds out. I did try to hide, but she found me preparing the plants, which takes long. I will also feel betraying not to tell.
It is not possible for me to have time out since I have little children.
I myself feel it is unfair, because I always respected her religious life, and even joined a community that follows it.
My wife also doesn't like me doing meditation or yoga, and thinks it is also satanic. But she doesn't fear it so much, and doesn't disturb me about it that much.


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: jivangilad]
    #18795922 - 09/03/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You can point out to her that since they exist, God had to invent them.


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I did try to hide, but she found me preparing the plants, which takes long.




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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: jivangilad]
    #18795954 - 09/03/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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My wife also doesn't like me doing meditation or yoga, and thinks it is also satanic.



I think it's time you two have a proper sit down, and explain to her how things are. You're practically a hippie, doing yoga, meditation and feeling the call of the plants. This is you.

She's some mainstream Jesus-worshiper. :rolleyes: This is her.

These are important make-or-break differences that have to be discussed and harmonized. Either you ruin your relationship by trying to stress each other into the other's way of thinking, or you learn to accept that you're a hippie and a Christian lady in a marriage. It can be made to work if she learns to chill and tolerate, but this calling Satan has to stop, or it's not going to end well.

If that doesn't work, tell her that her Jesus worshiping disturbs the Feng Shui of the place, affects the flow of Force and brings bad Karma in future incarnations, and if you can't use your plants, you'll quit from her weird Jesus cult :lol:


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: Spacerific]
    #18796066 - 09/03/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I know how it is OP. Im in the same shitty situation. I used to smoke so much weed and a little bit of mushrooms while we dated in college. She would smoke with me. Then i quit everything except alcohol to get a job out of college.

4 years later I was between jobs and had time to smoke a few times. She freaked out and was going to divorce me over it. Now im back into mushrooms and just tell her im going out drinking and do it at a friends house.

Im pretty sure she only cared because all she sees me as is the pay check. I have to put up with it for my kids though.


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: grower182]
    #18796150 - 09/03/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If she thinks youre spending too much money of weed or mushrooms then she is dumb, no offese. Going out for a night of drinking can be way more expensive than a mushroom trip lol


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: grower182]
    #18797207 - 09/03/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks, Spacerific.
I guess this has to be done.
We should  make those things clear.
We need to find the ways to do it, although, I cannot think exactly how right now.


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: jivangilad]
    #18797456 - 09/04/13 12:09 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Thanks, Spacerific.
I guess this has to be done.
We should  make those things clear.
We need to find the ways to do it, although, I cannot think exactly how right now.



Simple my good man, feed her some MDMA, take some as well, and then talk about life :lol:


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: Spacerific]
    #18798291 - 09/04/13 07:51 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I'm in a similar boat. I tripped like crazy before I met my wife. Then, during the years after I was done tripping, we met, got married and had kids. Now I'm back into psychedelics and she wants no part of it. She'd hit the roof if she knew I grew shrooms, did many microdoses around her, and tripped balls while she was away. I'm still working on her.. back in 1990 I got her to trip on acid with me, my one trip after my teenage years and before my recent return. It was her only time and she had a blast. As far as divorce, it wouldn't happen over this. We've been together over 25 years and we both plan to be together until the end. I love her, she's great. It would take something much bigger than me tripping to split us up. One of us would have to cheat for that to happen.

Her reasons for not tripping make some sense. She worries about the kids a lot, she worries about her elderly sick parents, she worries about all of her domestic responsibilities. She doesn't want to be in a head space where she's having anxiety attacks about all this stuff. I totally get that.
The part I hate is her rap about how it's illegal, and "why do you need to do that stuff to be happy?". She just doesn't get it.. at least right now.. I think once the kids are moved out and her parents are gone she'll be in my camp. Until then I'll keep it secret from her and I won't worry about it.


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: Spacerific]
    #18799520 - 09/04/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I agree on that mdma suggestion.. if that would ever happen


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