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Q: PF band tension
    #1879468 - 09/04/03 12:16 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Hello,

As this is my first post, Thanks to everyone (too numerous to mention) whose work has brought be so far already, and the same to everyone who contributes their knowledge and experience here.

As I dream, I am preparing to embark on my first grow. What I'm not sure about is what the PF-tek means by loose jar-bands. I have been admonished thoroughly against drying substrate--I have no PC, so must boil. Does loose mean just before the friction begins to resist, a few circumferencial inches from closed, or half-way through the resistance, or what?

Thank you. I know it's probably not that big a deal, but I really want to make as few blunders as possible.

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Re: Q: PF band tension [Re: Redoc]
    #1879523 - 09/04/03 12:29 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Forget all that crap!

Use Tyvek house wrap for a fiter and two to four 5/16" holes in the lid.

Tighten it down tight. rubber side down on the Tyvek.

Innoculate through ONE hole and seal the Tyvek (needle hole) with candle wax.


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Re: Q: PF band tension [Re: TM]
    #1879542 - 09/04/03 12:33 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I've read good things about tyvek, but hesitate to deviate from the Tek on my first grow, and my question isn't about sterility; I am asking about boiling. It seems if the lids were closed, the pressure in the jars might be a little higher. It sounds ridiculous, but I have a gut feeling about it.

Thanks

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Re: Q: PF band tension [Re: Redoc]
    #1879558 - 09/04/03 12:39 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

You should still use the Tyvek tek described above.

It is THE MOST reliable filter method for ALL jared subtrates.

Anyway, it doesn't much matter how tight your lids are as long as you let the PC cool to room temp before opening it.

(With Tyvek you don't have to) :smile: 


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Re: Q: PF band tension [Re: TM]
    #1879591 - 09/04/03 12:51 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

<grin> I have no PC. I'm boiling the jars. Does this have any effect? I varid the water concentrations in the various jars anyway, but I am curious.

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Re: Q: PF band tension [Re: Redoc]
    #1879631 - 09/04/03 01:04 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

People have some success boiling the jars. The right way is a PC, obviously.

I've never boiled, so I can't help you there.


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Re: Q: PF band tension [Re: TM]
    #1879900 - 09/04/03 02:16 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Well, thanks anyway.  I was postponing the expense of the PC until I had some success w/o it.  I've tried and failed a few times before, and am losing some of my energy with this.  I have yet to harvest even one basidiocarp. 

Oh well...we trudge on.  :smile:

redoC


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Re: Q: PF band tension [Re: Redoc]
    #1879981 - 09/04/03 02:38 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

It just can't be stated how important a PC is...and trying and failing is a common theme without one.

I would say buy one...after all, it's not like you can't find other uses for a PC in the kitchen.

Mmmm...Beef and Noodles...me hungry...


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    #1879987 - 09/04/03 02:41 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I have had failures before, not because of contam. Quite the contrary, even after I expose the jars on purpose to contamination, it takes a couple weeks for them to take any noticable effect. That is what led me to the theory that my cakes were dried out because NOTHING flourished in them, so I'm trying to keep from over-cooking my cakes. I've varied the water content on this attempt, but am trying still to cover all my bases.

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Re: Q: PF band tension [Re: Redoc]
    #1880378 - 09/04/03 07:04 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Steaming is enough.


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Actually, it's very easy to isolate a super producing sclerotia strain.

Follow the strain isolation technique on Let's Grow Mushrooms, and then select sectors early which are brown in color.  By the second or third transfer, you'll see stones developing, and this is only about 1 month after the original swipe of spores on agar.

Now, take each stone and move it to a new dish.  Soon, the mycelium will grow out and you'll see fresh stones developing, and if they're good strains, the sclerotia is forming long before the mycelium reaches the edge of the plate.  Pick strains which form four or five stones within two weeks and use these for your grain masters.
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Re: Q: PF band tension [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1881797 - 09/04/03 06:26 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

maybe you should try the "hominy"-project...

no pc needed at all !

and dont close your jars completely, they can crack from the overpressure


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