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OfflineMisterSandman
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How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds?
    #18794383 - 09/03/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So hypothetically speaking I have this friend, who may or may not need to be able to destroy a laptop and phone within 15-30 seconds at any given moment. I guess we could push it to 45 seconds max.

And I mean like completely destroy it, fry everything, the hard drive, EVERYTHING.

So how would my friend go about this? It has to be fairly straight forward. I'm talking like sleeping in bed to.....BAM get up and destroy it right then and there.

I'd say brute force (hammer, smashing, etc...) is out of question.

Fire is to dangerous and complicated.

Submerging them in water might work, but I feel like it wouldn't be enough.

What I was thinking was.....my friend has this big ass magnet. The package claims it is able to hold up 95 lb. So do you think he could maybe just run the magnet all along the laptop a few times, then maybe throw it in the toilet for good measure?

He tried the magnet on an old guitar tuner he didn't want anymore but it didn't seem to have any effect. But when it got near his cellphone it made the screen flip side was and go all crazy. and that was from like a half foot away.

So what do you guys think?


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman] * 2
    #18794387 - 09/03/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:youseethisshit:


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Sheekle]
    #18794399 - 09/03/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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:youseethisshit:




Come on Sheekle, don't be like that. This is very important and my friend would really like to know asap


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18794400 - 09/03/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

thermite


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: AWS] * 3
    #18794403 - 09/03/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Destroy it now. Avoid the time crunch.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: AWS]
    #18794410 - 09/03/13 01:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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AWS said:
thermite



this or a bomb


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: trampis]
    #18794413 - 09/03/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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trampis said:
Destroy it now. Avoid the time crunch.




True. But it's a really nice laptop, and he doesn't want to destroy it unless it is absolutely necessary.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18794414 - 09/03/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

He should just destroy them now while he has a chance. Better safe than sorry...if the situation is that intense.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: AWS] * 2
    #18794415 - 09/03/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

There is no way to destroy a hard drive that quickly. You would be surprised how destroyed a hard drive can be and still be able to pull information off of it with the right equipment. Even thermite is not going to do enough damage in that little time.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18794417 - 09/03/13 01:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

MisterSandman said:
So hypothetically speaking I have this friend, who may or may not need to be able to destroy a laptop and phone within 15-30 seconds at any given moment. I guess we could push it to 45 seconds max.

And I mean like completely destroy it, fry everything, the hard drive, EVERYTHING.

So how would my friend go about this? It has to be fairly straight forward. I'm talking like sleeping in bed to.....BAM get up and destroy it right then and there.

I'd say brute force (hammer, smashing, etc...) is out of question.

Fire is to dangerous and complicated.

Submerging them in water might work, but I feel like it wouldn't be enough.

What I was thinking was.....my friend has this big ass magnet. The package claims it is able to hold up 95 lb. So do you think he could maybe just run the magnet all along the laptop a few times, then maybe throw it in the toilet for good measure?

He tried the magnet on an old guitar tuner he didn't want anymore but it didn't seem to have any effect. But when it got near his cellphone it made the screen flip side was and go all crazy. and that was from like a half foot away.

So what do you guys think?






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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: WordSoup]
    #18794421 - 09/03/13 01:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Once you light the thermite it will be difficult to stop.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: WordSoup]
    #18794422 - 09/03/13 01:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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WordSoup said:
There is no way to destroy a hard drive that quickly. You would be surprised how destroyed a hard drive can be and still be able to pull information off of it with the right equipment. Even thermite is not going to do enough damage in that little time.




No one's going to be able to stop it before it does it's thing.. I doubt even if they expected the laptop to be under thermite they'd be able to do much to stop it.

If you're not going to completely obliterate the hard drive, then there's little point in even trying to hide whatever.. As someone stated even hard drives that seem to be damaged beyond all recognition can still give up access to the data on it.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18794427 - 09/03/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

k3nnyw said:
Quote:

AWS said:
thermite



this or a bomb




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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18794430 - 09/03/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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MisterSandman said:
Quote:

trampis said:
Destroy it now. Avoid the time crunch.




True. But it's a really nice laptop, and he doesn't want to destroy it unless it is absolutely necessary.




Clear hard drive. Fill with porn, Clear hard drive again. Sell.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman] * 4
    #18794433 - 09/03/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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MisterSandman said:
So hypothetically speaking I have this friend, who may or may not need to be able to destroy a laptop and phone within 15-30 seconds at any given moment. I guess we could push it to 45 seconds max.

And I mean like completely destroy it, fry everything, the hard drive, EVERYTHING.

So how would my friend go about this? It has to be fairly straight forward. I'm talking like sleeping in bed to.....BAM get up and destroy it right then and there.

I'd say brute force (hammer, smashing, etc...) is out of question.

Fire is to dangerous and complicated.

Submerging them in water might work, but I feel like it wouldn't be enough.

What I was thinking was.....my friend has this big ass magnet. The package claims it is able to hold up 95 lb. So do you think he could maybe just run the magnet all along the laptop a few times, then maybe throw it in the toilet for good measure?

He tried the magnet on an old guitar tuner he didn't want anymore but it didn't seem to have any effect. But when it got near his cellphone it made the screen flip side was and go all crazy. and that was from like a half foot away.

So what do you guys think?




only time i ever hear of authorities busting down someones door and going straight for the laptop is usually connected to kiddie porn. you dealin kiddie porn?


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman] * 1
    #18794436 - 09/03/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You're better off with extremely strong encryption.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: WordSoup]
    #18794437 - 09/03/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe just replace the hard drive?  Or is there important info on the one that may need to be destroyed?  I would think magnet is the best bet.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #18794439 - 09/03/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Shroomslip said:
Quote:

WordSoup said:
There is no way to destroy a hard drive that quickly. You would be surprised how destroyed a hard drive can be and still be able to pull information off of it with the right equipment. Even thermite is not going to do enough damage in that little time.




No one's going to be able to stop it before it does it's thing.. I doubt even if they expected the laptop to be under thermite they'd be able to do much to stop it.

If you're not going to completely obliterate the hard drive, then there's little point in even trying to hide whatever.. As someone stated even hard drives that seem to be damaged beyond all recognition can still give up access to the data on it.




He'd rather not burn his house down though.

So the magnet won't work?


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman] * 1
    #18794442 - 09/03/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yall have been watchin too much breaking bad


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: current]
    #18794443 - 09/03/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

current said:
Quote:

MisterSandman said:
So hypothetically speaking I have this friend, who may or may not need to be able to destroy a laptop and phone within 15-30 seconds at any given moment. I guess we could push it to 45 seconds max.

And I mean like completely destroy it, fry everything, the hard drive, EVERYTHING.

So how would my friend go about this? It has to be fairly straight forward. I'm talking like sleeping in bed to.....BAM get up and destroy it right then and there.

I'd say brute force (hammer, smashing, etc...) is out of question.

Fire is to dangerous and complicated.

Submerging them in water might work, but I feel like it wouldn't be enough.

What I was thinking was.....my friend has this big ass magnet. The package claims it is able to hold up 95 lb. So do you think he could maybe just run the magnet all along the laptop a few times, then maybe throw it in the toilet for good measure?

He tried the magnet on an old guitar tuner he didn't want anymore but it didn't seem to have any effect. But when it got near his cellphone it made the screen flip side was and go all crazy. and that was from like a half foot away.

So what do you guys think?




only time i ever hear of authorities busting down someones door and going straight for the laptop is usually connected to kiddie porn. you dealin kiddie porn?




I knew someone would bring this up. NO IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CHILD PORNOGRAPHY.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18794448 - 09/03/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Open up your computer and take a plug in from an old lamp and connect one wire to each side of the hard drive. Make it so the cords can come out of the laptop and are easily accessible.  When needed plug in the cord to an outlet.  the electrical surge being put through both the hard drive and computer will be enough to fry it and then still be able to unplug it from the wall before it gets too hot.  You need only fry the mother board


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18794450 - 09/03/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

STRONG acid(not the hippie-kind)


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18794452 - 09/03/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

MisterSandman said:
Quote:

Shroomslip said:
Quote:

WordSoup said:
There is no way to destroy a hard drive that quickly. You would be surprised how destroyed a hard drive can be and still be able to pull information off of it with the right equipment. Even thermite is not going to do enough damage in that little time.




No one's going to be able to stop it before it does it's thing.. I doubt even if they expected the laptop to be under thermite they'd be able to do much to stop it.

If you're not going to completely obliterate the hard drive, then there's little point in even trying to hide whatever.. As someone stated even hard drives that seem to be damaged beyond all recognition can still give up access to the data on it.




He'd rather not burn his house down though.

So the magnet won't work?



It could work, but I wouldn't want to rely on it..


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: TheWiz]
    #18794453 - 09/03/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ever watched breaking bad "Magnets Bitch" Just make a simple electro magnet and turn it on when "HE" needs it destroyed. Itll wipe every clean (well unless they have a mass hacker in which case they wouldnt need your mates laptop anyway.)


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: TheWiz]
    #18794454 - 09/03/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Maybe just replace the hard drive?  Or is there important info on the one that may need to be destroyed?  I would think magnet is the best bet.




That's the thing. There is all sorts of important shit on it (a lot of it not related to the need to destroy it) and it would be a pain in the ass to get it all back. Some of it would even be gone forever.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18794456 - 09/03/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:callingbullshit:

im kidding.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: current]
    #18794462 - 09/03/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i actually know of a program that takes less than 30 seconds. its almsot like installing a fresh OS, but in seconds. im not giving you the link till you tell me what youre trying to destroy. its only fair..


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: current]
    #18794464 - 09/03/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

move everything to an external hard drive, I believe some have the ability to erase themselves completely if you set up a password and enter it incorrectly.



if it's not too much data, move it to a thumbdrive. much easier to destroy with a few hammer strikes and tossing it onto a lit burner.


also strong acid would work (but should be handled with extreme care)


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Astrodelic]
    #18794474 - 09/03/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It doesn't matter if it will erase if you guess the incorrect password.  Before any lab will try and guess a password, they will mirror every bit on the drive, which gives them unlimited attempts at cracking your password.  Encryption is the only way to stop someone from getting access to your drive in this scenario.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: current]
    #18794477 - 09/03/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

current said:
i actually know of a program that takes less than 30 seconds. its almsot like installing a fresh OS, but in seconds. im not giving you the link till you tell me what youre trying to destroy. its only fair..




Asshole. I think I'll just tell him to stick with the magnet and keep a bucket full of liquid around to submerge it in for good measure.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Astrodelic]
    #18794480 - 09/03/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

a thumb drive would work and formatting them is pretty quick too. you wouldnt even have to smash it. i saw a 64 gig thumb drive at walley world for like 30.00


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18794487 - 09/03/13 01:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
It doesn't matter if it will erase if you guess the incorrect password.  Before any lab will try and guess a password, they will mirror every bit on the drive, which gives them unlimited attempts at cracking your password.  Encryption is the only way to stop someone from getting access to your drive in this scenario.






i meant to manually add incorrect password when emergency happens. don't rely on the fuzz to be stupid....


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18794490 - 09/03/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What is the liquid supposed to do? Clean the drive for the police? Its not going to stop them from retrieving the data, they can retrieve data from laptops that have been sitting in the ocean for months.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #18794501 - 09/03/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

hydrofluoric acid can dissolve some metals and silicon (assuming that hard drives are made of silicon conductors, i have no idea how hard drives work)


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #18794502 - 09/03/13 02:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Does your 'friend' have CP on his laptop or something? :lol:


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: lunarpiscean]
    #18794506 - 09/03/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i already asked. he said no...


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18794508 - 09/03/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #18794518 - 09/03/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

the way to get around all this is to run the hard drive thru a drill press, and ,
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    #18794534 - 09/03/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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i actually know of a program that takes less than 30 seconds. its almsot like installing a fresh OS, but in seconds. im not giving you the link till you tell me what youre trying to destroy. its only fair..




There is no way that works. Forensic data recovery will recover every bit of data that is "erased." They can even get data off a disk that has had a 7 pass/rewrite done to it.

Only a strong electromagnet will do that he wants.


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    #18794537 - 09/03/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Gumby]
    #18794544 - 09/03/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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current said:
i actually know of a program that takes less than 30 seconds. its almsot like installing a fresh OS, but in seconds. im not giving you the link till you tell me what youre trying to destroy. its only fair..




There is no way that works. Forensic data recovery will recover every bit of data that is "erased." They can even get data off a disk that has had a 7 pass/rewrite done to it.

Only a strong electromagnet will do that he wants.




i was lying. geeze....


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: lunarpiscean]
    #18794553 - 09/03/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

go into a metal or welding shop and tell them to throw it into the furnace for 100 dollars or something


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    #18794554 - 09/03/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18794557 - 09/03/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

but what if the child porn police kick down his door? no time...


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    #18794559 - 09/03/13 02:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The CIA erases then overwrite the erased data 35 times and they shred their hard drives so that every piece is no bigger than an eighth of a inch. They then ship the pieces to Ghana in Africa in an electronics dump yard. And guess what? Foreign spy agency go there and scoop up all the bits and piece and they still manage to get some confidential info from them.

So I don't think there's anything you can do to permanently erase a hard drive.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Patlal]
    #18794567 - 09/03/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i dont believe it...


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Patlal]
    #18794568 - 09/03/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The CIA erases then rewrite all there files 35 times and they shred their hard drives so that every piece is no bigger than an eighth of a inch. They then ship the pieces to Ghana in Africa in an electronics dump yard. And guess what? Foreign spy agency go there and scoop up all the bits and piece and they still manage to get some confidential info from them.

So I don't think there's anything you can do to permanently erase a hard drive.



I'll say it again. Strong acid (not the hippie-kind):shrug:

Or HF acid, which in itself is weak(as an acid), but it's very corrosive, the most corrosive acid known to man


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: lunarpiscean]
    #18794569 - 09/03/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Still convinced its CP!




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    #18794585 - 09/03/13 02:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The CIA erases then rewrite all there files 35 times and they shred their hard drives so that every piece is no bigger than an eighth of a inch. They then ship the pieces to Ghana in Africa in an electronics dump yard. And guess what? Foreign spy agency go there and scoop up all the bits and piece and they still manage to get some confidential info from them.

So I don't think there's anything you can do to permanently erase a hard drive.



I'll say it again. Strong acid (not the hippie-kind):shrug:

Or HF acid, which in itself is weak(as an acid), but it's very corrosive, the most corrosive acid known to man



one barrel of 45% HCl for the metal pieces and one barrel of HF for silicon based semiconductors should do the trick.


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    #18794590 - 09/03/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: mr sniffles]
    #18794614 - 09/03/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Buy a 50 dollar laptop on craigslist or buy a new hard drive and install windows. Try the magnet and see if it works. I'm pretty sure a magnet won't hurt anything other than the hard drive.

Why doesn't your friend either encrypt his laptop, or back everything up and put the stuff he wants to hide on a thumb drive? Put the thumb drive on your night stand and shove it up your ass if you hear your door get kicked down (lol). Or just encrypt the thumb drive.

I'm pretty sure data can be recovered from any program that will wipe a hard drive in 30 seconds. You need to run several passes with a bootable disc such as boot and nuke which takes hours.


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    #18794647 - 09/03/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Transfer everything sensitive to an SD card (or better, microSD) and just flush it down the toilet or something.


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    #18794652 - 09/03/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I say if you have a little more time, DBAN. If it needs to be quick, thermite. Once you light it it is almost impossible to stop because water will vaporize instantly and cause it to explode (steam), and since the reaction "creates" it's own oxygen, CO2 and other inert gasses won't smother it. Though it is dangerous to light and stuff, just make a brick "oven" so that when you light it, the molten metal will gather on the bottom, and won't spill and light things on fire. Something like this:
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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #18794655 - 09/03/13 02:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Also, I'll take a few minute to debunk a major myth.

MAGNETS DO NOT ERASE ANYTHING ON A HARDDRIVE (anymore)

Only powerful electromagnets in research labs will damage a hard drive. Possibly a junk yard electromagnetic might do a little something, but nothing to fuck up anything.

Back in the day a 99 cent magnet could wipe a floppy disk clean. Companies have become smarter and have removed the magnetic pieces and replaced them by other non magnetic material.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Patlal]
    #18794745 - 09/03/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I like the magnet idea.

If done right, they might not be able to get you for "destroying evidence."


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Patlal]
    #18794752 - 09/03/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The CIA erases then overwrite the erased data 35 times and they shred their hard drives so that every piece is no bigger than an eighth of a inch. They then ship the pieces to Ghana in Africa in an electronics dump yard. And guess what? Foreign spy agency go there and scoop up all the bits and piece and they still manage to get some confidential info from them.

So I don't think there's anything you can do to permanently erase a hard drive.





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    #18794781 - 09/03/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

This is a stupid thread. If your that worried you need to dispose of the laptop now . Once the police come to your door it's too late.

It's that simple.

Destroy it now or you will get busted with it later.

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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #18794807 - 09/03/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

just shatter the disk in the hard drive, they are really brittle so find out where it is in the laptop and stab fuck out of it.


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    #18794963 - 09/03/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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    #18794992 - 09/03/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

how do they work?


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman] * 1
    #18795005 - 09/03/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Encrypt the hard-drive. Your buddy wont have to worry about hauling ass and running a mgnet over his laptop when his kiddie porn ring gets knocked down, and his laptop wont get destroyed in the process.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman] * 1
    #18795199 - 09/03/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I didn't read this thread fully but the answers are retarded.  Just encrypt you disc wtf.

There are even programs you can give people a fake password and it'll show totally different files (with your secret files still encrypted.)


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: teamkiller]
    #18795230 - 09/03/13 04:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Use a powerdrill.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: teamkiller]
    #18795270 - 09/03/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I didn't read this thread fully but the answers are retarded.  Just encrypt you disc wtf.

There are even programs you can give people a fake password and it'll show totally different files (with your secret files still encrypted.)


Wtf thermite and plugging in lamps.



What program would this be?

I vote for the better safe than sorry method of destroying it now before its to late


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: FruitOfLife]
    #18795286 - 09/03/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I dont think you understand how strong current encryption standards are. AES-256 bit encryption is designed to protect against quantum computers, well into the forseeable future.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: FruitOfLife]
    #18795352 - 09/03/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

teamkiller said:
I didn't read this thread fully but the answers are retarded.  Just encrypt you disc wtf.

There are even programs you can give people a fake password and it'll show totally different files (with your secret files still encrypted.)


Wtf thermite and plugging in lamps.



What program would this be?

I vote for the better safe than sorry method of destroying it now before its to late




truecrypt does that.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #18795355 - 09/03/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

ok look here are the REAL facts.

1st deleting info dose not mean its gone, thats true. the hard drive just takes that chunk of info and says "ok this is now able to be written over when i need to" so it is still there. why do u think it takes so long to write info but u "delete" gigs an a snap. once that data has been "written over" that u deleted earlier then it if forever gone! period.

there are programs with drive scrubbers that wipe that info blank and it takes time cuz it actual "wrights" a blank sheet on no data like when it was new while leaving ur info thats not deleted intact. but that dosent really help you

2nd water,fire,electricity wont completely destroy everything unless u cook it in a fire long enough to melt it into nothing, witch wont help ur case.

ur best and most realistic option like said b4 would be a encryption program that can make a separate part of ur hard drive that just looks like a regular file anywhere u choose, any name exc.

i use a program called Trucrypt to keep my sensitive info safe. google it.

run program, choose location to store file, name, size, encryption type. done.

run program, choose file, mount, enter password, good long password...

done

it will show up as a drive on ur pc under my computer. like disk c: or recovery d: what ever but the extra one will be all ur secure info that no one can ever get there hands on! just dont forget to dismount when ur done!

the worst they can do is get pissed for you not giving them the password!

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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: AWS]
    #18795358 - 09/03/13 05:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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AWS said:
Quote:

FruitOfLife said:
Quote:

teamkiller said:
I didn't read this thread fully but the answers are retarded.  Just encrypt you disc wtf.

There are even programs you can give people a fake password and it'll show totally different files (with your secret files still encrypted.)


Wtf thermite and plugging in lamps.



What program would this be?

I vote for the better safe than sorry method of destroying it now before its to late




truecrypt does that.




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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: evileye001]
    #18795389 - 09/03/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

thermite+playdough+ push start ignition, attatched to the back of any given device.


it's already been recommended.


1 flip device upside down

2. push safety button

3. push ignition button

4. 17 second pool of lava melts a hole through the device.




you just have to be comfortable with the off chance that the thermite could possibly go off for some freak reason.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: evileye001]
    #18795422 - 09/03/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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the worst they can do is get pissed for you not giving them the password!






Truecrypt can have two passwords. One reveals data you want them to see and one reveals data you don't want them to see. So they won't get mad.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: AWS]
    #18795429 - 09/03/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

plausible deniability.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: AWS]
    #18795431 - 09/03/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

u guys do realize that if the police bust in and you have a  thermite fire in your house ur gonna get fucked with so many extra charges.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: teamkiller]
    #18795452 - 09/03/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

mi sure he would rather be charged with the fire charge then kiddie porn charges...


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: current]
    #18795457 - 09/03/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i sure as fuck wouldn't want to be charged with making bombs or whatever the fuck they would charge him with.

I forget the specifics, but the laws against making booby traps are horrible, and that would count as a booby trap i think.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: teamkiller]
    #18795465 - 09/03/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i dont think reason falls into place with these twos guys.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: teamkiller]
    #18795481 - 09/03/13 05:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:pedobearhide:








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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: lunarpiscean]
    #18795513 - 09/03/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Still convinced its CP!




Me too. This is literally the only reason I can think of for needing to completely fry a laptop in such a short time.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18795526 - 09/03/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That or internet drug dealing or something.


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    #18795539 - 09/03/13 05:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think investigators would prefer electronic evidence to prosecute drug dealing in any case, even electronic drug dealing.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: psi]
    #18795544 - 09/03/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I would lean toward the internet drug dealing over kiddie porn since he is so worried about losing everything for no reason...


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: FruitOfLife]
    #18795550 - 09/03/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If its internet drug dealing he should be more worried about his transactions being tracked, and his shipments getting intercepted. Bitcoins are traceable, unless properly laundered. The evidence they need isnt going to be on his hard-drive.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18795582 - 09/03/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Still convinced its CP!




Me too. This is literally the only reason I can think of for needing to completely fry a laptop in such a short time.




:nohellno: I knew this would happen. Jesus Christ it's not CP, I swear.

I took a bunch of Dexedrine today, long story short someone calls me and tells me some shit that got me all fucking paranoid. I flushed all my drugs and am now the proud owner of this giant fucking $15 dollar magnet. It's fun as fuck to play with though.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18795599 - 09/03/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

How much/what kind of drugs did you flush?


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: fee]
    #18795610 - 09/03/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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How much/what kind of drugs did you flush?




about 200mg of 2cb

a 20 strip of 130ug blotters

the rest of my dexedrine

3 grams of hash

and then like 5 old spore prints I had sitting around

Yeah, fucking retarded I know. But it made sense at the time, I was convinced the SWAT van was going to be outside my house any minute.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18795614 - 09/03/13 06:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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MisterSandman said:
Quote:

fee said:
How much/what kind of drugs did you flush?




about 200mg of 2cb

a 20 strip of 130ug blotters

the rest of my dexedrine

3 grams of hash

and then like 5 old spore prints I had sitting around

Yeah, fucking retarded I know. But it made sense at the time, I was convinced the SWAT van was going to be outside my house any minute.



I have never and still cant find any lucy  :sad:  and you flushed 20 hits!!!  :megacrankey:


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: FruitOfLife]
    #18795645 - 09/03/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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MisterSandman said:
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fee said:
How much/what kind of drugs did you flush?




about 200mg of 2cb

a 20 strip of 130ug blotters

the rest of my dexedrine

3 grams of hash

and then like 5 old spore prints I had sitting around

Yeah, fucking retarded I know. But it made sense at the time, I was convinced the SWAT van was going to be outside my house any minute.



I have never and still cant find any lucy  :sad:  and you flushed 20 hits!!!  :megacrankey:


JK, you did the right thing if the threat was real




I know, I feel like a :tard: I'm still trying to figure out how legitimate the threat actually was. The problem is I deleted all the contacts off my phone so I have no way of communicating with the guy who gave me the info.

I might have overreacted a bit though.....I probably looked so funny at the store, buying the magnet...the poor guy at the register was like "What do ya need this big ole magnet for?" and I'm all on speed like "NOTHING! DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT!!!"


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18795646 - 09/03/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Straight-up paranoia is really the only thing other than CP that could justify the need to destroy a laptop within 30 seconds at any given moment. :lol:

Maybe don't take so much dexedrine next time. For now, smoke some pot, maybe have a beer, watch a funny movie or something and try to relax. You probably won't need to destroy anybody's laptop. :lol:


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18795652 - 09/03/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

There is no reason you should ever have to destroy a laptop :rofl:

no matter WHAT you are using it for.

ever.  like, wtf? they are expensive and shit.


just familiarize yourself with encryption technologies, installing OS's on a USB, etc.

use a level of protection suitable for your level of paranoia.


Worst case scenario use a laptop without a battery in it so that all you have to do is pull the cord and the whole drive will be protected & encrypted.


There is a way for people with VERY Good computer skills to extract information from the RAM of an encrypted computer even if your computer has been shut off, however.

Here is a link on such an attack, called a "cold boot attack"

http://www.informationweek.com/cold-boot-attack-defeats-disk-encryption/206801184


do not depend solely on encryption, but rather add multiple layers of security.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18795667 - 09/03/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ive been there... long story short, I had a small mushroom grow in process and saw a guy looking in my backyard and talking to my neighbor. There was also a cop car at the end of the block that left after the guy did. I freaked out and bagged up EVERYTHING and drove 2 miles away and threw it in someones dumpster in the alley.

Nothing ever happened and no one ever came to even talk to me :shrug:


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: NWlight]
    #18795686 - 09/03/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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There is no reason you should ever have to destroy a laptop :rofl:

no matter WHAT you are using it for.

ever.  like, wtf? they are expensive and shit.


just familiarize yourself with encryption technologies, installing OS's on a USB, etc.

use a level of protection suitable for your level of paranoia.


Worst case scenario use a laptop without a battery in it so that all you have to do is pull the cord and the whole drive will be protected & encrypted.


There is a way for people with VERY Good computer skills to extract information from the RAM of an encrypted computer even if your computer has been shut off, however.

Here is a link on such an attack, called a "cold boot attack"

http://www.informationweek.com/cold-boot-attack-defeats-disk-encryption/206801184


do not depend solely on encryption, but rather add multiple layers of security.


research is your friend




Yeah...I'm definitely going to look into this encryption stuff, so next time I freak out I won't go waste $15 on a magnet that apparently wouldn't even really work.

Or I could just go with the Thermite......


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18795692 - 09/03/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Download True Crypt or something like it and encrypt your entire drive.


chances are you are not in deep enough to need something more drastic.

it won't be safe from the FBI but it'll be safe from local investigation and any snooping friends/family


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18795752 - 09/03/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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MisterSandman said:
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FruitOfLife said:
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MisterSandman said:
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fee said:
How much/what kind of drugs did you flush?




about 200mg of 2cb

a 20 strip of 130ug blotters

the rest of my dexedrine

3 grams of hash

and then like 5 old spore prints I had sitting around

Yeah, fucking retarded I know. But it made sense at the time, I was convinced the SWAT van was going to be outside my house any minute.



I have never and still cant find any lucy  :sad:  and you flushed 20 hits!!!  :megacrankey:


JK, you did the right thing if the threat was real




I know, I feel like a :tard: I'm still trying to figure out how legitimate the threat actually was. The problem is I deleted all the contacts off my phone so I have no way of communicating with the guy who gave me the info.

I might have overreacted a bit though.....I probably looked so funny at the store, buying the magnet...the poor guy at the register was like "What do ya need this big ole magnet for?" and I'm all on speed like "NOTHING! DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT!!!"



Dude if you are that paranoid you'd better be moving serious "weight"  and if so start running live. :laugh2:


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18795753 - 09/03/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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MisterSandman said:...so next time I freak out I won't go waste $15 on a magnet that apparently wouldn't even really work...




I think the bigger waste went down the drain... :shrug:  . . . :peace:


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: vinsue]
    #18795830 - 09/03/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sure encryption might seem secure, but I'd MUCH rather know that my laptop/harddrive is obliterated than know that my encrypted hard drive was confiscated and is in data recovery.


I'm one of those people that always plans for and thinks of methods to quickly get out of situations. So I advise you to study your computer and figure out what is needed to remove the hard drive and how quickly you can do it. If you can't remove the hard drive within 15 seconds, just remove the hard drive right now (if the threat is real or possible... hard drives are cheap as fuck) and destroy it!

To destroy it I would take a sledgehammer to it and smash it into as little pieces as possible. Then if I had access to extreme heat (bonfire or something), I would throw the remaining pieces inside the fire pit for hours. After the pit goes out and cools off, I'd retrieve the pieces, put them in a bag and dump them at a lake or landfill.

Of course that's not something you can do within a minute, but like I said, hard drives are so cheap I would just destroy it now. If you follow those instructions, I can almost guarantee unless you're running some huge CP ring or human trafficking ring, they'll never retrieve anything off that hard drive.


Best of luck, and drugs can be a bitch. I've flushed many drugs while high and paranoid.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: eMpire420]
    #18796223 - 09/03/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

how the fuck do i get my hands on some dex?!


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: current]
    #18796230 - 09/03/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Make friends with someone with ADD.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: psi]
    #18796250 - 09/03/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i have adhd. i was on rittilan for 8 years.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: psi]
    #18796254 - 09/03/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Make friends with someone with ADD.




That's what I do, for Adderall anway. Do they even give Dex out for ADD anymore? I've never actually met anyone who gets it prescribed.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: eMpire420]
    #18796271 - 09/03/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Sure encryption might seem secure, but I'd MUCH rather know that my laptop/harddrive is obliterated than know that my encrypted hard drive was confiscated and is in data recovery.





It literally is obliterated, and the key space is literally large enough that I would have to express its crack time in powers of 10 even when you calculate it using the processing power of multiple supercomputers. For all intensive purposes, that data doesnt exist to anyone without the key.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18796278 - 09/03/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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psi said:
Make friends with someone with ADD.




That's what I do, for Adderall anway. Do they even give Dex out for ADD anymore? I've never actually met anyone who gets it prescribed.



No idea, that's what they gave me as a kid in the mid 90s.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: psi]
    #18796292 - 09/03/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

anyone who is prescribed dex wanna be my friend?


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: current]
    #18796350 - 09/03/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

keep a container of thermite nearby.
it'll probably burn through all your floors as well.

also, if you shatter the discs inside an HDD into enough pieces, they won't be recoverable.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: blackglass6219]
    #18796367 - 09/03/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

has anyone suggested the microwave yet?


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: trampis]
    #18796376 - 09/03/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

giant magnet?


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Fuckspice]
    #18796386 - 09/03/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: trampis]
    #18796388 - 09/03/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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has anyone suggested the microwave yet?




I just read through the whole thread can't believe it wasn't mentioned.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18798681 - 09/04/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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psi said:
Make friends with someone with ADD.




That's what I do, for Adderall anway. Do they even give Dex out for ADD anymore? I've never actually met anyone who gets it prescribed.




Yeah they do. I was on dexadrine for like 3 or 4 years in college. I get paranoid as fuck if I even take 15mg. Shit's potent.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Gumby]
    #18798716 - 09/04/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So has this thread established WHY he needs to do so or is it child porn?


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Uzziel]
    #18798720 - 09/04/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Drug paranoia apparently.


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    #18798724 - 09/04/13 10:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

A computer won't save you from any drug charges they got on you. I'm thinking child porn.


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    #18798734 - 09/04/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

He said he was all wigged out on stims. :shrug:


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: psi]
    #18798747 - 09/04/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you had an external harddrive, couldn't you just unplug it then do whatever you want with it?


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18798779 - 09/04/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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TheWiz said:
Maybe just replace the hard drive?  Or is there important info on the one that may need to be destroyed?  I would think magnet is the best bet.




That's the thing. There is all sorts of important shit on it (a lot of it not related to the need to destroy it) and it would be a pain in the ass to get it all back. Some of it would even be gone forever.




Tell your friend to spend money on an external hard drive.
Then save everything important from the laptop to the external hard drive.
Then get rid of his current laptop if he's that sketched out lol wtf


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #18798818 - 09/04/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

GUIS GUIS It's o.k.

He was just on stims

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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18798892 - 09/04/13 11:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've thought about this before.  I think I would put the laptop in the oven, turn it onto about 400 F or so.  This is not likely hot enough to start a fire, but it will destroy the laptop and hard drive.  By the time the pigs notice the smell of melting electronics, it will be to late for them to retrieve the data.  I haven't tried this personally, but I think it would work.  Also, this is something that could be done in less than thirty seconds.


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    #18798970 - 09/04/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If your house is being busted in by the police odds are you fucked anyway. Like you are gonna have time to flush your stash AND destroy your computer by the time you know they are there. :shrug:


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Uzziel]
    #18799375 - 09/04/13 02:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #18799401 - 09/04/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Maybe just replace the hard drive?  Or is there important info on the one that may need to be destroyed?  I would think magnet is the best bet.




That's the thing. There is all sorts of important shit on it (a lot of it not related to the need to destroy it) and it would be a pain in the ass to get it all back. Some of it would even be gone forever.




Tell your friend to spend money on an external hard drive.
Then save everything important from the laptop to the external hard drive.
Then get rid of his current laptop if he's that sketched out lol wtf




A 32 GB MicroSD card is like $20-25 and would be super easy to destroy or get rid of. You could even swallow it if you really wanted to, they're the size of like a fingernail.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: psi]
    #18799419 - 09/04/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you get raided they take all your computers and use shit on there for evidence.
Pictures of grows, data indicating transactions, etc.
Computer evidence can be used to corroborate conspiracy charges if they couldn't otherwise charge you with that one.
You're not "already fucked" if they break down your door.  You're only fucked when they have sufficient evidence to convict you in court.


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    #18799458 - 09/04/13 02:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Microwave? Or just download shitloads of viruses, i would imagine enough of the right virus would make it hard to determine what you actually did. Or just hide the laptop, bury all the different parts in completely random locations, if your fast enough that'd only take 45 seconds.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #18799481 - 09/04/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #18799485 - 09/04/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

have you considered maybe hiding the laptop? like a quick escape for the laptop? some kind of UAV to carry it away?


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: current]
    #18799948 - 09/04/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thermite.

In college I listened to a lecture from a US marshall doing child porn raids. Every good child porn server is wired with thermite as a boobytrap. If the cops come knocking the computers melt down. They had evidence only from the computers that didn't go off. The owner of the servers got life but he'd have walked if the devices all worked as he thought they would.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #18801676 - 09/05/13 12:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Thermite.

In college I listened to a lecture from a US marshall doing child porn raids. Every good child porn server is wired with thermite as a boobytrap. If the cops come knocking the computers melt down. They had evidence only from the computers that didn't go off. The owner of the servers got life but he'd have walked if the devices all worked as he thought they would.




damn the only reason I clicked this thread was to post that haha its narly shit and legal to:thumbup:

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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18802275 - 09/05/13 06:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It doesn't matter if it will erase if you guess the incorrect password.  Before any lab will try and guess a password, they will mirror every bit on the drive, which gives them unlimited attempts at cracking your password.  Encryption is the only way to stop someone from getting access to your drive in this scenario.



This. A properly encrypted hard drive is un-crackable within your life time unless quantum computers become viable.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: pwnasaurus] * 1
    #18802306 - 09/05/13 07:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Why does OP have to get rid of a phone in 15 seconds.  What could be so hot that it can't get seen by anyone else.  I know what I think and judging by some of the responses I'd say we all pretty much know.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Gumby]
    #18804060 - 09/05/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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i actually know of a program that takes less than 30 seconds. its almsot like installing a fresh OS, but in seconds. im not giving you the link till you tell me what youre trying to destroy. its only fair..




There is no way that works. Forensic data recovery will recover every bit of data that is "erased." They can even get data off a disk that has had a 7 pass/rewrite done to it.

Only a strong electromagnet will do that he wants.




Um I would love to see anything relating to that. Cause I've read quite a bit that just a single pass is enough.


One thing you need to ask yourself is what you're hiding from and why. Obviously there is technology and the ability exists I'm sure to recover bits from just about any damaged medium., However the funds and effort that would need to be applied is dependent on how bad they want to get into it. If you're worried about police finding harassing IM's then chances are they wont waste much time, but if you're into some drug enterprising shlopsauce involving smuggling child porn stars across the globe then you may want to put more effort into being safe.


You need to ask yourself who and why and how, these are the utmost important functions in the equation you are asking.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: snoot]
    #18804410 - 09/05/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The government has been attempting, and most likely has, backdoored most available encryption software. Especially the most often used. TrueCrypt is not as secure as many think it is. I have read recently about different governments decrypting truecrypt encrypted drives. (most likely due to weak passwords) If I can find the link I will post it.

Communications encryption are also not as secure as you'd think.

http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/05/nsa-subverts-most-encryption-works-with-tech-companies-for-back-door-access-report-says/

http://reason.com/blog/2013/07/24/feds-twist-tech-companies-arms-for-backd

I imagine in these cases it is most likely only used in major cases, not your average drug case.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: enthiangenic]
    #18804736 - 09/05/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The government has been attempting, and most likely has, backdoored most available encryption software. Especially the most often used. TrueCrypt is not as secure as many think it is. I have read recently about different governments decrypting truecrypt encrypted drives. (most likely due to weak passwords) If I can find the link I will post it.

Communications encryption are also not as secure as you'd think.

http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/05/nsa-subverts-most-encryption-works-with-tech-companies-for-back-door-access-report-says/

http://reason.com/blog/2013/07/24/feds-twist-tech-companies-arms-for-backd

I imagine in these cases it is most likely only used in major cases, not your average drug case.





Again, who are you trying to hide from and why. If you are some gov't spy caught up in some nonsense, yeah they might spend the effort to decrypt AES or any other things via bruteforce, but again it all depends on what you're hiding from who and why.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: snoot]
    #18804935 - 09/05/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My point was that it is possible, not that it is probable. I'm sure the government will not waste their powerful resources to prosecute a minor offender.

If someone wants your data bad enough, with enough time and resources they can get it.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: enthiangenic]
    #18804965 - 09/05/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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My point was that it is possible, not that it is probable. I'm sure the government will not waste their powerful resources to prosecute a minor offender.

If someone wants your data bad enough, with enough time and resources they can get it.




That is exactly my point.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: snoot]
    #18804983 - 09/05/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If you're trying to hide on the internet then you will fail.
Unless you're Anonymous.
If you truly want to remain off the grid then you can't use the common Internet at all.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #18806142 - 09/06/13 03:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm running a firewall so I know I'm practically invisible online.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman] * 1
    #18806178 - 09/06/13 04:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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So how would my friend go about this? It has to be fairly straight forward. I'm talking like sleeping in bed to.....BAM get up and destroy it right then and there.


So what do you guys think?




Lol can you guys imagine you walk in on someone sleeping and they just spring up and immediately just fucking destroy the shit out of their computer.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Chowder963]
    #18806184 - 09/06/13 04:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:rofldrunk: then they look at you and go ... oh its only you man.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman] * 1
    #18806258 - 09/06/13 05:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My father can crash a laptop in 15 seconds :cookiemonster:


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Asante]
    #18806350 - 09/06/13 06:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

hot magma of course...isn't that how y'all are destroying your CPUs in >30 seconds?


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: trampis]
    #18806457 - 09/06/13 07:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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has anyone suggested the microwave yet?




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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: MisterSandman]
    #18806476 - 09/06/13 08:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Secret Documents Reveal N.S.A. Campaign Against Encryption

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This excerpt from the N.S.A.’s 2013 budget request outlines the ways in which the agency circumvents the encryption protection of everyday Internet communications. The Sigint Enabling Project involves industry relationships, clandestine changes to commercial software to weaken encryption, and lobbying for encryption standards it can crack...




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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: vinsue]
    #18806486 - 09/06/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The thought that there is ANY encryption that the NSA can't break surprises me. You would think any encryption method would have a back door somehow


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Magicman69]
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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Magicman69]
    #18806664 - 09/06/13 09:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The thought that there is ANY encryption that the NSA can't break surprises me. You would think any encryption method would have a back door somehow




No way, the Feds are having to force companies to open up, they don't control software engineers otherwise.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Konyap]
    #18806676 - 09/06/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

whats that hacking site that has 10 levels and each level gets a bit harder? i got to level 4 but couldnt figure it out. however, i think i know what to do now.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: current]
    #18806709 - 09/06/13 09:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Have a hydrochloric acid tub big enough for the size of your laptop, and drop your laptop in it. The lithium in the battery would most likely react violently with the HCL and fry the fuck out of it. If the HCL doesn't penetrate the battery you could keep a strip handy in case and throw it in and pooof.. I'd do this in a bathtub because its a violent reaction...

hopefully the charge of destruction of evidence isn't as serious as what's on that laptop.. lol



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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Magicman69]
    #18822439 - 09/10/13 08:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The thought that there is ANY encryption that the NSA can't break surprises me. You would think any encryption method would have a back door somehow




Perhaps you should learn about encryption. Perhaps a read(good read);
http://www.rakuten.com/prod/the-code-book-the-evolution-of-secrecy-from-mary-queen-of-scots-to/30509544.html?listingId=262919455&s_kwcid=

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whats that hacking site that has 10 levels and each level gets a bit harder? i got to level 4 but couldnt figure it out. however, i think i know what to do now.





www.hackthissite.com

pretty basic stuff. if you get stuck go to there irc channel and get trolled.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: Magicman69] * 1
    #18822504 - 09/10/13 09:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The thought that there is ANY encryption that the NSA can't break surprises me. You would think any encryption method would have a back door somehow



:lolsy:

You clearly have NO CLUE what you're talking about.  How can you talk in absolutes when you obviously don't know the first thing about encryption?  There are tons of different encryption protocols out there that cannot be broken within a human lifetime using all of the currently available computing power in the world.  If quantum computing becomes viable that is a different story, but who knows if or when that happens.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #18900108 - 09/27/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The most surefire way:
Thermite



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    #18900113 - 09/27/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

most surefire way:

throw into volcano


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: NWlight]
    #18901389 - 09/28/13 02:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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most surefire way:

throw into volcano



I'd pour tomato sauce on the laptop.
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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: current]
    #18901405 - 09/28/13 02:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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yall have been watchin too much breaking bad



I can't believe the breaking bad reference took so many post to assemble.

BTW would it not be possible to simply encrypt the device and use a 2nd key unlocking decoy content.


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Re: How to destroy a laptop/phone within 15-30 seconds? [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #18901427 - 09/28/13 03:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The thought that there is ANY encryption that the NSA can't break surprises me. You would think any encryption method would have a back door somehow



:lolsy:

You clearly have NO CLUE what you're talking about.  How can you talk in absolutes when you obviously don't know the first thing about encryption?  There are tons of different encryption protocols out there that cannot be broken within a human lifetime using all of the currently available computing power in the world.  If quantum computing becomes viable that is a different story, but who knows if or when that happens.




uh you're talking about brute forcing, which he's not and only a noob would even attempt.  Since the NSA mainly exists to break encryption, i presume they'd try other means.  Or maybe not.  they have unlimited budget.

what are those numbers of "all the available computing power in the world" coming from?  It was public the DoD (i think it was) built little tiny 155ghz processors.  Does that number include the secret supercompuer made of 155ghz processors?  or a supercomputer made of those crazy 1000ghz processors?

U sound like a noob.


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