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Enoki- WBS -> Coir/Verm
    #18793761 - 09/03/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've been searching and searching...

I can't find an enoki tek. All I've been reading is success with WBS (I'm assume pt jars with polyfill one hole filter) but get confused when "spawning to bulk". I could get some woodchips... but (since it's totally new for me--I don't really want to venture out TOO far)... can I have success with Coir/Verm/Gypsum?

I can get EASILY get spent coffee grinds, cardboard (does this need to be pasteurized? ), newspaper as well.

I also read that is need high CO2 levels so my monotub would have small holes and dense polyfill?


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Re: Enoki- WBS -> Coir/Verm [Re: Diamonds808]
    #18795071 - 09/03/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I used enoki- wbs-sawdust/whest bran.  They grew really fast. But once they pinned, I got bad mold.


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Re: Enoki- WBS -> Coir/Verm [Re: eddieblake]
    #18795489 - 09/03/13 05:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

grain spawn to woodchip+gypsum. I solar cook the substrate for 8hr.  hope this help.  good luck.  they are very tasty.

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Re: Enoki- WBS -> Coir/Verm [Re: john-hai]
    #18796903 - 09/03/13 10:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Wow those are awesome John, I can't wait to try growing them.  Looks like it'd be time consuming to harvest if you had a lot of blocks!


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Re: Enoki- WBS -> Coir/Verm [Re: Forrester]
    #18797479 - 09/04/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

john-hai do you think they could be grown invitro ? Just wondering


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Re: Enoki- WBS -> Coir/Verm [Re: mycoryfic]
    #18797697 - 09/04/13 01:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have not done it that way(invitro).  try it and let us know.  I am fairly new at this strain.  I only grow them in the winter, California winters are mild.

yes they do take some time to harvest forrester.


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Re: Enoki- WBS -> Coir/Verm [Re: mycoryfic]
    #18798250 - 09/04/13 07:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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mycoryfic said:
do you think they could be grown invitro ? Just wondering




It look like that might work.  In culture slants anyway, lol


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Re: Enoki- WBS -> Coir/Verm [Re: Forrester]
    #18799469 - 09/04/13 02:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I guess ill try doing a bag invitro then.


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Re: Enoki- WBS -> Coir/Verm [Re: mycoryfic]
    #18800341 - 09/04/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I will be watching this thread diamonds808!  I am doing my first Enoki grow.  I put my Enoki on rye into a sawdust bag a week ago. I was under the impression they needed wood, but I might be wrong.  I hope this works for you.

John-hai, I saw you said you grow them in winter...right after I dumped my rye onto sawdust, I had a guy at the local supply store say it was too warm.  He recommended I should just put it in the dark for a few months because even inside (at 68-70), it was too warm to fruit.  What are your temps?


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Re: Enoki- WBS -> Coir/Verm [Re: maynard]
    #18800555 - 09/04/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

my winter at the coldest part is about 30-32f.  on average it is about 35-45f.  these temp are at night.  day high are around 50-60f.


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Re: Enoki- WBS -> Coir/Verm [Re: john-hai]
    #18800955 - 09/04/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

john-hai said:
grain spawn to woodchip+gypsum. I solar cook the substrate for 8hr.  hope this help.  good luck.  they are very tasty.

john


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Looks yummy but.. different...? I thought they were white!!! o.O???

How cold do they have to be?? o.O?..


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Re: Enoki- WBS -> Coir/Verm [Re: Diamonds808]
    #18801813 - 09/05/13 02:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

that is the golden enoki.  this is the only strain that I have grown.  there is a white one also but I am not sure if it is white or because you grow them in the dark.  the light also makes the cap grow larger.  like I said I am fairly new to this strain.  as for the temp, I do not know how cold they have to be but I have listed my winter temp above.  hope this will help you.  and yes they are yummy.


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Re: Enoki- WBS -> Coir/Verm [Re: john-hai]
    #18801847 - 09/05/13 02:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Mhmm,

I got this from an ex-sponsor's site:

Cultivation Level :  -  Easy
Substrates :  -  Sawdust
Temps : Colonizing/Fruiting  -  70-75/40-60


  Under artificial cultivation conditions first developed by Japanese growers, are cultivated in long slender jars or tubes. Manipulation of light, carbon dioxide and temperature conditions creates a beautiful bouquet of delicate, white, long-stemmed (4-5 inches), small-capped (1/3-1/2 inch) mushrooms. Enoki mushrooms have a delicate fruity flavour and usually served raw. 



Temps don't get that cold over hurrr. :frown: I don't think I'll be trying this. Boo.


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