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mushrume man
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Yes! Hydrating your grains have been proven(thanks FrankH) to grow healthier cultures on agar. Your G2g may benefit if you rehydrate with sterile water. Do the test, write a tek.
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Edited by mushrume man (09/02/13 11:30 PM)
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blueconfusion
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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: mushrume man]
#18792696 - 09/02/13 11:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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invitro


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I wouldn't dunk grains before g2g personally, better to have the grains a little dry so as not to encourage rogue spores from germinating in the uncolonized grain jar. There should be enough moisture inside the new grains.
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Trippy_Penguin



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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: invitro]
#18792708 - 09/02/13 11:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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invitro said: There should be enough moisture inside the new grains.
I'm with this.
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invitro


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I love those glowing shrooms, I wish I had a hundred of them in my bedroom.
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vec

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dude I'm just sayin who gives a damn about an extra half an oz. I'm not dissing his work, I'm just sayin it's too much of a mess for the extra yield.
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Trippy_Penguin



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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: vec]
#18792838 - 09/03/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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How is it at all a mess? If I can do something that easy to increase my yields you better believe I'm going to do it.
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PussyFart
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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: vec]
#18792843 - 09/03/13 12:34 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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vec said: dude I'm just sayin who gives a damn about an extra half an oz. I'm not dissing his work, I'm just sayin it's too much of a mess for the extra yield.
And that is your opinion.
For me, if I am going to risk that much time and effort, I want the biggest bang for my buck.
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vec

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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: PussyFart]
#18792856 - 09/03/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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it already costs nothing to grow them, and sure small scale it might matter, but time is money my friend.
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PussyFart
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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: vec]
#18792863 - 09/03/13 12:40 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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vec said: it already costs nothing to grow them, and sure small scale it might matter, but time is money my friend.
That is my point exactly.
My time is money, so why not make the most of it...
And there is a cost to growing cubes, regardless of what you think.
Plastic tubs, jars, perlite, spores...your time.....this shit is not free.
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vec

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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: PussyFart]
#18792876 - 09/03/13 12:46 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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i'm not saying it costs nothing, but sure doesn't even come close to the amount of $$ u gotta throw down for a set up for growing boogie. but i still love u.lol
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blueconfusion
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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: vec]
#18793199 - 09/03/13 05:54 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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It takes 20 minutes to soak and there is really no mess for a bigger healthier flush. Really there is no question, you can modify franks tek to be more suited for your needs I used a stock pot and a colander
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Stromrider
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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: blueconfusion]
#18793253 - 09/03/13 06:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Don't even need that. You can just put water in the jar with the grains and pour it off with the lid cracked if you are that lazy
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tbagtag
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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: Stromrider]
#18793295 - 09/03/13 07:07 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I got 12 jars that are about to be spawned that the master jar was dunked that would like to have a word with all of you. I have another 12 that I am going to do this with as well. I am going to do 2 tubs of dunked before g2g and 2 tubs of normal only dunked before spawning. What I have noticed is that the colonization is more uniform. The mycelium gets loosened and goes around the new grain more. These jars were g2g last wednesday. And no, these are not the jars from my grow along thread, those I did like normal.
If you think your mycelium is thirsty after a week to 10 days (normal times for g2g) the how thirsty do you think they are after an almost 30 day colonization time? Got my flame shield up....
Enjoy!
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Stromrider
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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: Stromrider]
#18793306 - 09/03/13 07:14 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Op I was just talking to someone who is experimenting with soaking grains before g2g and so far he has had success so I don't know what to tell you now. I know I said it was a bad idea and it still sounds risky to me so I would proceed with caution. Like I said he is still experimenting so I hate to tell you either way. He said he would do a write up of his results so stay tuned.
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Stromrider
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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: Stromrider]
#18793311 - 09/03/13 07:15 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lol speak of the devil ^^^
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tbagtag
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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: Stromrider]
#18793429 - 09/03/13 08:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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psillyshroomer said: Lol speak of the devil ^^^
Lol, yeah by the time I'm done it'll be a few weeks after my grow along thread. I just g2ged my other 12 jars after a soak so I have my 24 total. I gotta save my pennies for a supporter account though so I can ensure I have enough photos. I've used over 60% of my space and I'm only halfway through.
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Stromrider
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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: tbagtag]
#18793435 - 09/03/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Since you are doing a grow along and it has become very popular and informative they might give you some extra space. Trusted cultivators get unlimited uploads so they can upload what they need to show teks and grows. What you are doing is no different. I'll pm fooman and see if I can fight for your cause! lol
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GoldenArrow
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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: Stromrider]
#18793454 - 09/03/13 08:37 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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psillyshroomer said: Op I was just talking to someone who is experimenting with soaking grains before g2g and so far he has had success so I don't know what to tell you now. I know I said it was a bad idea and it still sounds risky to me so I would proceed with caution. Like I said he is still experimenting so I hate to tell you either way. He said he would do a write up of his results so stay tuned.
It's got to be a case of - dunking might give quicker results but will surely increase fail %age.
Then you're experimenting to see if the increased results - fail %age = higher or lower than the standard tek.
I think either way you'd want to suggest caution to noobs.
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Stromrider
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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: GoldenArrow]
#18793455 - 09/03/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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GoldenArrow said:
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psillyshroomer said: Op I was just talking to someone who is experimenting with soaking grains before g2g and so far he has had success so I don't know what to tell you now. I know I said it was a bad idea and it still sounds risky to me so I would proceed with caution. Like I said he is still experimenting so I hate to tell you either way. He said he would do a write up of his results so stay tuned.
It's got to be a case of - dunking might give quicker results but will surely increase fail %age.
Then you're experimenting to see if the increased results - fail %age = higher or lower than the standard tek.
I think either way you'd want to suggest caution to noobs.
For sure. I did say proceed with caution.
I am sure tbag will give us a good write up of his findings in a few weeks
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