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InvisibleRaven Gnosis
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Would you take it?
    #18793123 - 09/03/13 04:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If you were offered the gift and curse of life before your birth, knowing that everything you would come to love would figuratively and literally die, that your own death was inevitable, would you truly take it?

Why or why not?


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Re: Would you take it? [Re: Raven Gnosis] * 1
    #18793132 - 09/03/13 04:30 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Of course, life is the most awesome thing ever imo.


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Re: Would you take it? [Re: teknix]
    #18793141 - 09/03/13 04:42 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It would depend what kind of family or situation I was going to be born into.
If it were me being able to choose retrospectively if I were to come into my life as it was and is then i would not take it.
Too much hassle not enough reward
If i were to be born into a more loving/supportive family (or just an actual family) then yeh i would take it
Or if i were being born into a situation with money then I'd take that too. It does make things easier after all


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Re: Would you take it? [Re: Ace1928] * 1
    #18793163 - 09/03/13 05:07 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

it's better than nothing (i guess)


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Re: Would you take it? [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #18793220 - 09/03/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Raven Gnosis said:
If you were offered the gift and curse of life before your birth, knowing that everything you would come to love would figuratively and literally die, that your own death was inevitable, would you truly take it?

Why or why not?




No, life is unsatisfactory imo.  Ask the Buddha. If this is the best creation can do then it's pretty lame imo.


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Edited by Icelander (09/03/13 06:20 AM)


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Re: Would you take it? [Re: Icelander]
    #18793224 - 09/03/13 06:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Link?


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Re: Would you take it? [Re: teknix]
    #18793225 - 09/03/13 06:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)



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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Would you take it? [Re: Icelander]
    #18793226 - 09/03/13 06:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Quote:

Raven Gnosis said:
If you were offered the gift and curse of life before your birth, knowing that everything you would come to love would figuratively and literally die, that your own death was inevitable, would you truly take it?

Why or why not?




No, life is unsatisfactory.  Ask the Buddha. If this is the best creation can do then it's pretty lame imo.




It makes sense that with life on other planets there are likely other situations at play, where life is much better. Or that, as a species here, we are currently like a caterpillar who thinks life is pretty boring inside his cocoon. 50,000 years from now if we haven't wiped ourselves out (Just watched Dr. Strangelove btw, classic :tongue:), we may be getting alot more satisfaction

Just a thought


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Re: Would you take it? [Re: Icelander]
    #18793227 - 09/03/13 06:21 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

That's not any proof of the Buddha's thoughts.


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Re: Would you take it? [Re: teknix]
    #18793229 - 09/03/13 06:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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That's not any proof of the Buddha's thoughts.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_marks_of_existence


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Re: Would you take it? [Re: lolwut]
    #18793232 - 09/03/13 06:23 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Those can be transcended, which is what Buddhist practice is about, right?

Obviously if you don't progress towards transcending it your gonna be stuck in the midst of it.

I see it  as a challenge, more than a fact of life.

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Nirvana is peace. Nirvana is the "other shore" from samsara.






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Re: Would you take it? [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #18793319 - 09/03/13 07:17 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Totally depends on whether my life-to-be is awesome and vibrant with meaning and happiness, or if it's plagued with misery, unnecessary suffering and shitty happenings.


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Re: Would you take it? [Re: teknix]
    #18793320 - 09/03/13 07:18 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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teknix said:
That's not any proof of the Buddha's thoughts.




I didn't know which part you were asking about. :shrug:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Would you take it? [Re: deCypher]
    #18793323 - 09/03/13 07:19 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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deCypher said:
Totally depends on whether my life-to-be is awesome and vibrant with meaning and happiness, or if it's plagued with misery, unnecessary suffering and shitty happenings.





I was assuming a replay of the life you currently have as that's all you can really know about.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Would you take it? [Re: Icelander]
    #18793326 - 09/03/13 07:22 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Would I get to change anything or use the memories I had of my life to my advantage?  If I can tell myself not to make various stupid decisions or to go for things I regretfully didn't the first time, then hell yeah.  Otherwise there'd be no point in just repeating the same thing over again, although I'd probably choose that over plain death.  :shrug::lol:


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Re: Would you take it? [Re: deCypher]
    #18793522 - 09/03/13 09:09 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Ask the OP. :shrug:  If I got to change things based on knowledge of past mistakes I'd certainly go for another chance.  I'd kick some serious ass most likely.  First off I'd ignore my old man completely.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Would you take it? [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #18793861 - 09/03/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Would you take it?

The psychology and philosophy that I thought you meant take it up the ass while reading at first glance - no I hate this indoctrination.


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Re: Would you take it? [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #18794210 - 09/03/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Don't think so.
I enjoy life for what it is, but to me it seems like its a lot of lies with little compassion for others.  There's obviously exceptions..Maybe I'm just in the wrong crowd :shrug:

Being permanently asleep doesn't sound too bad.


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Re: Would you take it? [Re: Raven Gnosis] * 1
    #18794672 - 09/03/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Raven Gnosis said:
If you were offered the gift and curse of life before your birth, knowing that everything you would come to love would figuratively and literally die, that your own death was inevitable, would you truly take it?

Why or why not?




For sure I would. Reality is fucked, but this is it.
I have a privileged glimpse of a small part of it and no amount of suffering is going to keep me from my opportunity to witness it.


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Re: Would you take it? [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #18794880 - 09/03/13 03:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I would take the offer for sure, the past few years of my life have been worth the near guarantee of a gruesome death, and all the suffering I've been through. Many fold over


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