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horusiscalling
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Mushroom Identification (Houston, tx)
#18792146 - 09/02/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Habitat: mulch
Gills: rusty brown, unattatched
Stem: Chipped, see picture
Cap: tan, up to six inch in diameter
Spore print color: rusty brown
Bruising: N/A
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Edited by horusiscalling (09/03/13 11:59 PM)
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fry day


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Re: Mushroom Identification (North of Houston, tx) [Re: horusiscalling]
#18792250 - 09/02/13 09:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks like you have two different shrooms there... They both spore printed brown?
The ones with the chocolate gills are most certainly an agaricus.
The others, dunno. It's not entirely clear from your pics which caps are which...
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Re: Mushroom Identification (North of Houston, tx) [Re: horusiscalling]
#18792293 - 09/02/13 09:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Agaricus sp. Not so sure about the one on the right in your first picture.
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Re: Mushroom Identification (North of Houston, tx) [Re: Tas75]
#18792352 - 09/02/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't know much about the species. In fact this is the first time I've even heard of it, but I found this to seem close, Stropharia rugosoannulata. I just don't think the cracked top, and strange "curly" annulus look right for Agaricus.
Either way I'd be willing to bet it's a Stropharia, not Agaricus Take it or leave it
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Re: Mushroom Identification (North of Houston, tx) [Re: domesticgnome]
#18792473 - 09/02/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I bow to your greater research! The gills looked to me like a dead ringer for agaricus and I wasn't sure which cap went with those gills... Both cap pics look to me like they came from the lighter gilled shrooms...
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Re: Mushroom Identification (North of Houston, tx) [Re: domesticgnome]
#18792770 - 09/02/13 11:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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domesticgnome said: Stropharia, not Agaricus
The gills are attached and the spore print is purple-brown (Agaricus shouldn't have either).
-------------------- "Reality leaves a lot to the imagination" ~ John Lennon
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Re: Mushroom Identification (North of Houston, tx) [Re: TimmiT]
#18792841 - 09/03/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cool, I've never even found a Stropharia. I just knew this didn't have a cap with fibrils, and the split annulus was weirding me out.
I'm glad my guess didn't make me seem like an idiot
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Re: Mushroom Identification (North of Houston, tx) [Re: domesticgnome]
#18792862 - 09/03/13 12:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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is there any way to tell if its for sure edible?
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Re: Mushroom Identification (North of Houston, tx) [Re: domesticgnome]
#18792941 - 09/03/13 01:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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domesticgnome said: Either way I'd be willing to bet it's a Stropharia, not Agaricus Take it or leave it
Not Stropharia, it is Agrocybe due to the way the cap is cracking. The spore color looks more like Stropharia, but the colors are very close and the cracking cap tells the true stroy. The equal stem and veil remnants around the cap margin make me say A. praecox over A. putaminum. Should smell like cucumber. It is edible.
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Re: Mushroom Identification (North of Houston, tx) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#18793436 - 09/03/13 08:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said:
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domesticgnome said: Either way I'd be willing to bet it's a Stropharia, not Agaricus Take it or leave it
Not Stropharia, it is Agrocybe due to the way the cap is cracking. The spore color looks more like Stropharia, but the colors are very close and the cracking cap tells the true stroy. The equal stem and veil remnants around the cap margin make me say A. praecox over A. putaminum. Should smell like cucumber. It is edible.
Ah, the difference between "rusty-brown" and purple-brown.
Thanks Alan
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Re: Mushroom Identification (North of Houston, tx) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#18793501 - 09/03/13 08:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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They do look like an Agrocybe with the cracking caps but those spores are very purple.
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Re: Mushroom Identification (North of Houston, tx) [Re: TimmiT]
#18793560 - 09/03/13 09:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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TimmiT said: They do look like an Agrocybe with the cracking caps but those spores are very purple.
Ooh, I do love a good dispute.
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Re: Mushroom Identification (North of Houston, tx) [Re: domesticgnome]
#18793886 - 09/03/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good lesson! Wish I could retain moar NOW, but I'll just keep taggin' along 'till I have a lightbulb moment. I figure you have to build a framework to hang on the detail on, working on that.
-------------------- "Shrub, 30-90 cm. Leaves 2.5-) 4-9 cm, sessile or amplexicaul, broadly ovate to ovate-oblong, obtuse or rounded to subapiculate or subacute, when crushed not smelling of goats." "The initial quake was a 6.6 but fairly shallow. I felt it as a prolonged up and down vibration followed by a jolt forward and then to the left, like square dancing."
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Re: Mushroom Identification (North of Houston, tx) [Re: fry day]
#18793947 - 09/03/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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fry day said: Good lesson! Wish I could retain moar NOW, but I'll just keep taggin' along 'till I have a lightbulb moment. I figure you have to build a framework to hang on the detail on, working on that. 
I know what you mean. I put in my .02. Worthwhile, or not, I have nothing else to do but sit back and watch.
If this turns into a big discussion, then I'll learn enough to know for sure when I find my first Stropharia/Agrocybe praecox, and you'll be able to clearly state the difference between the two.
Come on TI's, do what you do!!!
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Re: Mushroom Identification (North of Houston, tx) [Re: domesticgnome]
#18797888 - 09/04/13 03:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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domesticgnome said:
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TimmiT said: They do look like an Agrocybe with the cracking caps but those spores are very purple.
Ooh, I do love a good dispute.

Naw, no dispute just an observation. They probably are Agrocybe praecox, they just seem atypical.
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Re: Mushroom Identification (North of Houston, tx) [Re: TimmiT]
#18798117 - 09/04/13 06:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just like it when you guys start using your big, fancy words, and I have to google a bunch of terms.
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Re: Mushroom Identification (North of Houston, tx) [Re: TimmiT]
#18798123 - 09/04/13 06:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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This could be Leratiomyces percevalii, or Agrocybe praecox. The appendiculate margin, tapered, staining stipe and purple spore print point strongly at Leratiomyces, but I think young specimens would be necessary to make a confident determination here.
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Re: Mushroom Identification (North of Houston, tx) [Re: Gravija]
#18798131 - 09/04/13 06:10 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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...the plot thickens
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