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should i soak grains before g2g?
    #18792085 - 09/02/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

if its good to soak grains before spawning to bulk, wouldnt it make sense to soak them before g2g?


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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: michgan241]
    #18792113 - 09/02/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

The purpose of soaking is to let harmful, heat resistant like, bacteria germinate before you pressure cook. This makes it easier for sterilization and a lot more promising. So soaking before spawning to bulk doesnt make any sense. Not sure if i understand your question right.


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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: michgan241]
    #18792118 - 09/02/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

No only when spawning to bulk. G2G is a sterile process. Spawning to bulk is not


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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: michgan241]
    #18792121 - 09/02/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Do not soak before a g2g because you could contaminate the grain!


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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: SupaThaRipper]
    #18792125 - 09/02/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The purpose of soaking is to let harmful, heat resistant like, bacteria germinate before you pressure cook. This makes it easier for sterilization and a lot more promising. So soaking before spawning to bulk doesnt make any sense. Not sure if i understand your question right.




:facepalm: You are def not understanding the ques.


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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: michgan241]
    #18792138 - 09/02/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

why the f**k would you soak grains if spawning into bulk or doing g2g. doesn't make sense.


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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: vec]
    #18792154 - 09/02/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: vec]
    #18792161 - 09/02/13 09:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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why the f**k would you soak grains if spawning into bulk or doing g2g. doesn't make sense.




Btw you don't soak your grains before doing g2g! Only when spawning to bulk


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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18792198 - 09/02/13 09:35 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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why the f**k would you soak grains if spawning into bulk or doing g2g. doesn't make sense.




Btw you don't soak your grains before doing g2g! Only when spawning to bulk




because the master jar was fully colonized wouldnt it be extremely contam resistant? I guess i dont understand why spawning to bulk you can let the soaked colonized grain and sub be exposed to contams in open air, but soaked colonized grain in a SAB then g2g wouldnt work.


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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18792229 - 09/02/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Looks like too much work for nothing, just sayin.


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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: michgan241]
    #18792238 - 09/02/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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why the f**k would you soak grains if spawning into bulk or doing g2g. doesn't make sense.




Btw you don't soak your grains before doing g2g! Only when spawning to bulk




because the master jar was fully colonized wouldnt it be extremely contam resistant? I guess i dont understand why spawning to bulk you can let the soaked colonized grain and sub be exposed to contams in open air, but soaked colonized grain in a SAB then g2g wouldnt work.




Your fully colonized grain is contam resistant but the grain you are adding it to is not. Understand?


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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: michgan241]
    #18792243 - 09/02/13 09:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

My turn! Because the receiving grain should already be properly hydrated. Maybe could work if you sterilized the water but is to much work/risk when the receiving grains are already hydrated!


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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: SuperFly]
    #18792253 - 09/02/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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My turn! Because the receiving grain should already be properly hydrated. Maybe could work if you sterilized the water but is to much work/risk when the receiving grains are already hydrated!




anyone else feel free to correct me but its not that the other grains are dry, the same way its not because your sub is dry.


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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: vec]
    #18792254 - 09/02/13 09:44 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Looks like too much work for nothing, just sayin.




Seriously dude? All those guys results and the general consensus of many trusted cultivators say it is a beneficial thing with noticeable results and your going to disagree? With what basis? What experience? Just sayin


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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: Stromrider]
    #18792257 - 09/02/13 09:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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why the f**k would you soak grains if spawning into bulk or doing g2g. doesn't make sense.




Btw you don't soak your grains before doing g2g! Only when spawning to bulk




because the master jar was fully colonized wouldnt it be extremely contam resistant? I guess i dont understand why spawning to bulk you can let the soaked colonized grain and sub be exposed to contams in open air, but soaked colonized grain in a SAB then g2g wouldnt work.




Your fully colonized grain is contam resistant but the grain you are adding it to is not. Understand?




wouldnt that hold true for pasteurized sub too though?  I'm not trying to be difficult just trying to get around the logic of one being ok, one not.


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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: michgan241]
    #18792263 - 09/02/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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My turn! Because the receiving grain should already be properly hydrated. Maybe could work if you sterilized the water but is to much work/risk when the receiving grains are already hydrated!




anyone else feel free to correct me but its not that the other grains are dry, the same way its not because your sub is dry.




You soak your colonized grain because it looses a lot of moisture during the colonization process. It has nothing to do with the moisture content of the sub. Read franks write up. I posted a link above


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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: michgan241]
    #18792276 - 09/02/13 09:48 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

:whathesaid:

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My turn! Because the receiving grain should already be properly hydrated. Maybe could work if you sterilized the water but is to much work/risk when the receiving grains are already hydrated!




anyone else feel free to correct me but its not that the other grains are dry, the same way its not because your sub is dry.



The sub is not what is dry, but the fully colonized grain is a little dry


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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: SuperFly]
    #18792444 - 09/02/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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My turn! Because the receiving grain should already be properly hydrated. Maybe could work if you sterilized the water but is to much work/risk when the receiving grains are already hydrated!




anyone else feel free to correct me but its not that the other grains are dry, the same way its not because your sub is dry.



The sub is not what is dry, but the fully colonized grain is a little dry




Yea, thats what i said just a little less clearly.  In franks thread he doesnt dunk his grain because the sub is dry but because its beneficial to the spawn.  Just like I wouldnt hypothetically dunk my master jar because the receiving grains were dry but because it would be beneficial to the master grains being spread.


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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: michgan241]
    #18792461 - 09/02/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You would most definitely get contams if you dunk before g2g


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Re: should i soak grains before g2g? [Re: vec]
    #18792574 - 09/02/13 10:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Looks like too much work for nothing, just sayin.




I'm jumping into this a bit late, but :facepalm:

I just needed to get my facepalm in there.

What's the point of this hobby if you aren't willing to put the work into it. You can't argue the results of Frank's work and say it's not worth at least trying.


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