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Offlinezappaisgod
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Re: Syria [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #18789759 - 09/02/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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You can call me a troll all you want. He started talking shit about how he would 'own' me. I'm just saying no he fucking wouldn't. I believe in each man staying in his own space and not fucking with your fellow man or neighbor. But I don't believe in being idle if someone decides to fuck with me first. Don't tread on me and I won't tread on you. But if someone comes up in my shit thinking he can fuck with me and mine I fucking react. That's not a troll. Trolling is saying that shit in the first place.




I said me or somebody like me.  You think you could protect yourself?  You are sadly mistaken, little boy.  You believe in each man staying in his own space but there are legions of better equipped and better organized people who will fuck your little world up and the only thing that allows you the illusion of independence is the military and the police.  You would be completely helpless.


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Re: Syria [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18789760 - 09/02/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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My view is we do nothing militarily and economically completely shut the country off except for humanitarian aid.

There may be good guys in Syria but they aren't involved in the fighting except as cannon fodder.  Scum will replace scum.  Bombing Assad will help al Nusra.  They're even worse scum in my mind.




All that will accomplish is to plunge them further into chaos. We blockade a nation and the innocents are the first to die. We never should have started supporting the rebels in the first place.




How could "innocents" be punished any more?
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I'm been wondering this whole time what the reason is for us being involved. Assad may be a heavy handed dictator, but at least he heads a secular government, and was maintaining stability. Now we're gonna have some ultra radical Islamic militant state right next to Israel, awesome. Sure, we get to flex our muscles again, maybe force Russia's last foreign military base out of existence, but is that worth the risks?

Just seems like there's an ulterior motive here I'm not picking up on. I guess taking out an ally of Iran is a good geopolitical move, but idk...




Assad is an Iranian puppet.  Secular?

The ulterior motive was Obama talking tough during a campaign.  Nothing else.  There is not one single piece of policy that he pursues that isn't first and foremost about polishing his knob.





Trade sanctions are a good way to hurt innocents.

Yes, Assad's regime is secular.


And your opiniom from here on out is pretty worthless if you think this international conflict revolves around Obama's ego.  There are dozens of factors at play which make it such a difficult situation.


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Re: Syria [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #18789791 - 09/02/13 12:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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My view is we do nothing militarily and economically completely shut the country off except for humanitarian aid.

There may be good guys in Syria but they aren't involved in the fighting except as cannon fodder.  Scum will replace scum.  Bombing Assad will help al Nusra.  They're even worse scum in my mind.




All that will accomplish is to plunge them further into chaos. We blockade a nation and the innocents are the first to die. We never should have started supporting the rebels in the first place.




How could "innocents" be punished any more?
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I'm been wondering this whole time what the reason is for us being involved. Assad may be a heavy handed dictator, but at least he heads a secular government, and was maintaining stability. Now we're gonna have some ultra radical Islamic militant state right next to Israel, awesome. Sure, we get to flex our muscles again, maybe force Russia's last foreign military base out of existence, but is that worth the risks?

Just seems like there's an ulterior motive here I'm not picking up on. I guess taking out an ally of Iran is a good geopolitical move, but idk...




Assad is an Iranian puppet.  Secular?

The ulterior motive was Obama talking tough during a campaign.  Nothing else.  There is not one single piece of policy that he pursues that isn't first and foremost about polishing his knob.





Trade sanctions are a good way to hurt innocents.

Yes, Assad's regime is secular.


And your opiniom from here on out is pretty worthless if you think this international conflict revolves around Obama's ego.  There are dozens of factors at play which make it such a difficult situation.




The "innocents" are already fucked.  Assad is an Iranian puppet.  Do you deny that?  This isn't an international conflict.  It is an internal Syrian conflict.  Obama's ego has flummoxed him into an untenable position.  His ineptitude has put him in a box.  And I very much mean to say "him".  He's a fucking moron.


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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Re: Syria [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18789837 - 09/02/13 01:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Syria is an ally of Iran. Theyre no more a puppet than France is to the US.

And yes, this IS an international conflict.  The West, along with the Saudis and Qataris, want to build an oil pipeline through Syria,  something Assad (and by proxy Iran and Russia) does not support.  So special interests see Assad murder protestors and seize an opportunity. The Saudis want the pipeline. Israel doesnt want an unstable Islamic neighbor. Russia wants to keep its base, ally, and considerable control of Europe's energy supply. Iran doesnt want to lose an ally to the West. And everybody else who isnt a jihadist doesnt want another Libya to happen. This isnt just about Syria,  in fact 99.99% of it isnt about Syria at all.

Thats like saying North Korea is only a Korean issue. Right...


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Re: Syria [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #18789863 - 09/02/13 01:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

so your saying that this could very easily become another vietnam.

us technology going up against russian technology on foreign soil. with other tid bits involved.

history proves that when russia is involved even in the slightest, we go in...

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Re: Syria [Re: rackem]
    #18789877 - 09/02/13 01:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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so your saying that this could very easily become another vietnam.

us technology going up against russian technology on foreign soil. with other tid bits involved.

history proves that when russia is involved even in the slightest, we go in...

:popcorn:




the last time we sided with al Qaeda (of which we named, fyi) it was to fight against the Soviets in Afghanistan.

And its capitalism vs communism. We did it in Asia, Africa, South America, the Middle East, and even Europe.


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Re: Syria [Re: lazyfingers]
    #18789882 - 09/02/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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America according to Putin






:lolsy:

At the end when the monkey holds the gun over his head :rofl:

And lol @ people who bring up a user's post count in situations like these. "DERPPP, you post sooo much here you must be a fucktard in real life!!!"

The internet is just as much a social interaction as IRL! When will people see that? ...it's just of a different kind. Using a poster's heavy post count against them is BS. So someone enjoys posting on an online community, so what? If someone were to--instead of posting here (or any other forum)--do something with others IRL, no one would use the argument of "hurr, you socialize sooo often! You must be a fool!"

Internet communication is just as valid of a social interaction as IRL. So the persona that one creates could indeed be false. From the community's standpoint it is still truly fake. (and even on a psychedelic forum you would think that people would realize that IRL interaction is the same thing, for it is just various people engaging in their fake personas anyway. But again, there the community views the persona as 'truly' being the identity of the person....just as what happens here.)

Sry for the rant, but god...unless the situation is one of the following:
-a new user with barely any posts starts complaining about the community/forums
-an established user calls them out on not having any valid reason to bitch since they have barely even been here

...Unless it is like that, than using a post count against someone just shows one's ignorance towards what the internet is.


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Re: Syria [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #18789887 - 09/02/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Syria [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #18789906 - 09/02/13 01:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
Syria is an ally of Iran. Theyre no more a puppet than France is to the US.


:rofl2:
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And yes, this IS an international conflict.  The West, along with the Saudis and Qataris, want to build an oil pipeline through Syria,  something Assad (and by proxy Iran and Russia) does not support.  So special interests see Assad murder protestors and seize an opportunity. The Saudis want the pipeline. Israel doesnt want an unstable Islamic neighbor. Russia wants to keep its base, ally, and considerable control of Europe's energy supply. Iran doesnt want to lose an ally to the West. And everybody else who isnt a jihadist doesnt want another Libya to happen. This isnt just about Syria,  in fact 99.99% of it isnt about Syria at all.




Complete bullshit.  Assad wants the pipeline.  Neither side will ever be an ally to the West.  Are you paying any attention at all?
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Thats like saying North Korea is only a Korean issue. Right...




Is there a civil war in N. Korea and does Syria have nukes that they routinely use to threaten the rest of the world?


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Re: Syria [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #18789913 - 09/02/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
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rackem said:
so your saying that this could very easily become another vietnam.

us technology going up against russian technology on foreign soil. with other tid bits involved.

history proves that when russia is involved even in the slightest, we go in...

:popcorn:




the last time we sided with al Qaeda (of which we named, fyi) it was to fight against the Soviets in Afghanistan.

And its capitalism vs communism. We did it in Asia, Africa, South America, the Middle East, and even Europe.




al Qaeda didn't exist then.  Try again


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Re: Syria [Re: snoot]
    #18789939 - 09/02/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

There are plans for two pipelines, one oil and one natural gas.

North Korea already had their civil war.

And if Syria is really just Iran's puppet like you say, it shouldnt be too difficult for them to get nukes, considering their nuclear program is years ahead of the DPRK.

Geopolitics. Its a thing.


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Re: Syria [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18789955 - 09/02/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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The Ecstatic said:
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rackem said:
so your saying that this could very easily become another vietnam.

us technology going up against russian technology on foreign soil. with other tid bits involved.

history proves that when russia is involved even in the slightest, we go in...

:popcorn:




the last time we sided with al Qaeda (of which we named, fyi) it was to fight against the Soviets in Afghanistan.

And its capitalism vs communism. We did it in Asia, Africa, South America, the Middle East, and even Europe.




al Qaeda didn't exist then.  Try again






Are we resorting to semantics now?


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda#History


"Roots traced back to the mujahideen funded by the CIA, trained by the ISI in the Soviet Afghanistan war."


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Re: Syria [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #18790145 - 09/02/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Its pretty difficult being the contrarian when you're contradicting reality, eh?

:archiebunker:


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Re: Syria [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #18790245 - 09/02/13 02:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
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zappaisgod said:
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The Ecstatic said:
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rackem said:
so your saying that this could very easily become another vietnam.

us technology going up against russian technology on foreign soil. with other tid bits involved.

history proves that when russia is involved even in the slightest, we go in...

:popcorn:




the last time we sided with al Qaeda (of which we named, fyi) it was to fight against the Soviets in Afghanistan.

And its capitalism vs communism. We did it in Asia, Africa, South America, the Middle East, and even Europe.




al Qaeda didn't exist then.  Try again






Are we resorting to semantics now?


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda#History


"Roots traced back to the mujahideen funded by the CIA, trained by the ISI in the Soviet Afghanistan war."



"Roots traced back"?  Let's trace the roots back to the sixth century, then.


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Re: Syria [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #18790252 - 09/02/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Brace yourselves.

Comparisons between Assad and bin Laden will be raining from the media next week.  Nothing like celebrating the 9/11 anniversary to stir up public support.




I've seen nothing of the sort so far.

It's easily possible to immediately tell who does and doesn't pay attention to the news judging from reactions to this story. :facepalm:


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Re: Syria [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #18790258 - 09/02/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
There are plans for two pipelines, one oil and one natural gas.




So?  Assad wants them
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North Korea already had their civil war.




When was that?
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And if Syria is really just Iran's puppet like you say, it shouldnt be too difficult for them to get nukes, considering their nuclear program is years ahead of the DPRK.




The DPRK already has nukes, Iran doesn't
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Geopolitics. Its a thing.




A thing you clearly have no grasp of.


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Re: Syria [Re: snoot]
    #18790355 - 09/02/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Apparently propaganda by Syrian hackers.


Would be crazy if it was real but  looking closely you can see it fake  but if it was real and they were marching to D.C instead  :awehigh:



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Re: Syria [Re: trekie]
    #18790405 - 09/02/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

fuck bombs, the more i listen to this crap, why dont we just send seal team 6 in and put a bullet threw asads head?


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Re: Syria [Re: trekie]
    #18790413 - 09/02/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

So I was writing congress people and Ive come across something interesting .


Apparently this is a F.S.A Facebook troll who is trolling her feed.

Read the last commit and look at the persons facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/repbettymccollum

FSA troll
Troll 2 that committed on her feed

oh man and she was in an intelligence briefing too

The crazy shit you read with google translate will blow your fucking minds




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Re: Syria [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18791920 - 09/02/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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You can call me a troll all you want. He started talking shit about how he would 'own' me. I'm just saying no he fucking wouldn't. I believe in each man staying in his own space and not fucking with your fellow man or neighbor. But I don't believe in being idle if someone decides to fuck with me first. Don't tread on me and I won't tread on you. But if someone comes up in my shit thinking he can fuck with me and mine I fucking react. That's not a troll. Trolling is saying that shit in the first place.




I said me or somebody like me.  You think you could protect yourself?  You are sadly mistaken, little boy.  You believe in each man staying in his own space but there are legions of better equipped and better organized people who will fuck your little world up and the only thing that allows you the illusion of independence is the military and the police.  You would be completely helpless.



:lol: He is quite hysterical with his macho, internet tough guy bullshit, isn't he? In the real world, not his fantasy land where he is invincible, the only things that will matter if the military, government, police, and law are gone is how well equipped you are, and how many allies you have. He would be shot in the head from 500 yds away, his wife/daughters/sisters/etc. would be kidnapped and chained up in somebody's basement to be breeding whores so that person could increase the size of their family, thereby having more allies and power, before he knew what the fuck hit him.  But, oh yeah, I forgot, this dude is bulletproof.
Fake, you wouldn't stand a chance, stfu. You're lucky to live in the world/ country you do.


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