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WScott
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How much do you know about everything?
#18787865 - 09/02/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: How much do you know about everything? [Re: WScott]
#18787990 - 09/02/13 01:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know for sure but suspect that everything sucks. Does that count for anything?
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Re: How much do you know about everything? [Re: Icelander]
#18788098 - 09/02/13 02:38 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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An expert knows more and more, about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.
This shows that you can never know anything.
The reverse is also true of course:
A generalist knows less and less, about more and more, until he knows absolutely nothing about everything.
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Re: How much do you know about everything? [Re: GoldenEye]
#18788107 - 09/02/13 02:44 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: How much do you know about everything? [Re: GoldenEye]
#18788125 - 09/02/13 02:56 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was gonna crack that joke.
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Re: How much do you know about everything? [Re: WScott]
#18788308 - 09/02/13 04:50 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know everything about everything, because I am just that damned cool. 
And I said no about knowledge being tangible, because I assume you mean tangible as in, say, the softness of a lovers skin?
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Re: How much do you know about everything? [Re: Raven Gnosis] 1
#18788336 - 09/02/13 05:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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You were obliged to say NO to the tangibility question otherwise we could test your self proclaimed coolness
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Re: How much do you know about everything? [Re: GoldenEye] 1
#18788622 - 09/02/13 07:51 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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i only know what I remember about my own experience. this makes for a spotty material knowledge.
when possible I retain, directions to knowledge more so than actual facts, because getting there is endless, and an inner map/ or sense of direction helps.
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Re: How much do you know about everything? [Re: redgreenvines]
#18788627 - 09/02/13 07:53 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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And we make up what we "remember" on the spot.
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Re: How much do you know about everything? [Re: WScott]
#18788654 - 09/02/13 08:05 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
WScott said:

It's going to take a while to calculate the true percentage of known versus unknown things. Let me divide by zero first and come up with an answer before taking on the bigger task.
What's this thread really about?
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Re: How much do you know about everything? [Re: LunarEclipse]
#18788659 - 09/02/13 08:07 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know that I know enough to know I know nothing.
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Re: How much do you know about everything? [Re: LunarEclipse]
#18788667 - 09/02/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
LunarEclipse said:
Quote:
WScott said:

It's going to take a while to calculate the true percentage of known versus unknown things. Let me divide by zero first and come up with an answer before taking on the bigger task.
What's this thread really about?
About the statistic that 80% of the people think they are better than average.
Which could actually be true... if the 20% that are below average are extremely far below the average
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Re: How much do you know about everything? [Re: Icelander]
#18788724 - 09/02/13 08:50 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Icelander said: And we make up what we "remember" on the spot.
the compass works like that very creative
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Re: How much do you know about everything? [Re: redgreenvines]
#18790484 - 09/02/13 03:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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For me, most knowledge is immaterial and constructed. Self-Knowledge (human sciences, psychoanalysis, consciousness itself, etc), Natural knowledge (natural science), and super-natural knowledge (theology, mysticism, occultism, religion writ large) are all types of knowledge that we, as humans, make up over time. It is hard for me to escape this view after reading any Foucault.
But for me, this view cannot also ncompass mathematical truths. I think that Foucault would echo this, but I am unsure, as I am not solid on his theory of mathematics, should he even have one. Anyaway, these mathemtical truths are of particular concern for some philosophers and scientists, and these truths are particularly difficult for those who are skeptic of "real" forms of epistemology. The concern is that something about '2+3=5' seems true whether we believe it or not. Forget here about the names "2" or "3" or "5". When you look at "two" objects, or "three", or "five", you are coming up with these sums in the only way possible, yes? Assuming that you are counting the rocks as individual "rocks" themselves, and not measuring their mass or their volume, when your sums would be different.
The debates over "psychologism" came down to precisely this issue of logical and mathematical truth. Frege accused Husserl's early work of evoking some pschologistic fallacies, and Husserl would ultimately heavily revise some of his early thoughts pertaining to phenomenology. To be honest I am moving in broad strokes here, as mathematical truths and logical truths are often considered to be distinct, albeit in a nuanced way. Yet for Husserl, the question was, "is 2+3=5 really true, or is it only true insofar as I think it to be so, thus performatively instantiating, if you will, the truth". N.B. That is not a real quote, but an imagined paraphrase of the sentiment in that phase of his work.
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Re: How much do you know about everything? [Re: WScott]
#18790672 - 09/02/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think something that's assumed is what truth is. Not only do I not know if it's tangible, but what is truth? What does it mean to know truth? Is that different from having a truth?
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Re: How much do you know about everything? [Re: r72rock]
#18790703 - 09/02/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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The truth does not fall under "is" but nestles between the state of absolution and ineffable uncertainty in a cyclical pattern of affirmation and self defeating purpose. Some crap like that, who knows enough that they don't know shit? Know what I'm sayin' ya'll?
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If only it were possible to select both "0%" and "100%"
I don't know anything, but I know pretty much damn near everything about not knowing anything.
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Re: How much do you know about everything? [Re: WScott]
#18791281 - 09/02/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm curious why you asked whether knowledge is tangible or not.
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Re: How much do you know about everything? [Re: Rahz]
#18791618 - 09/02/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Seems like the natural follow-up to a question asking you to quantify your amount of knowledge.
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Re: How much do you know about everything? [Re: NetDiver]
#18792163 - 09/02/13 09:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Knowledge seems like the opposite of what tangible means.
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