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Re: How young is too young to trip? [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #18791262 - 09/02/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I first tripped when I was 17. Looking back it's a bit young IMO, and if I tripped for the first time today, at 20, being immensely more mature than at 17 it would be better. But, then again, I'll probably say I was an immature idiot at 20 when I'm 25

There's also the fact psychedelics helped me a lot to improve, to think about myself, to be honest with myself, to change things I don't like about my life, to work hard towards my goals, to do what I love, and basically getting to know myself. It's been a bumpy road but a beneficial one. So, who knows where I'd be if I hadnt tripped at 17


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Re: How young is too young to trip? [Re: Legend]
    #18791300 - 09/02/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think there is such a thing as too young to trip. As soon as a human being is able to decide "I want to alter my consciousness" then they are ready. Be it 6 years old or 60.


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Re: How young is too young to trip? [Re: GEncore]
    #18791304 - 09/02/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My first trip was when I was 14. One of the funnest nights I've ever had.


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Re: How young is too young to trip? [Re: Dawks]
    #18791309 - 09/02/13 06:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't think there is such a thing as too young to trip. As soon as a human being is able to decide "I want to alter my consciousness" then they are ready. Be it 6 years old or 60.



lol I don't think a 6 year old should be able to take hallucinogens because they "want to do it"

Kind of like how I don't think a 6 year old should be able to drive a car, whether they want to do it or otherwise


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Re: How young is too young to trip? [Re: Sheekle]
    #18791321 - 09/02/13 06:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't think there is such a thing as too young to trip. As soon as a human being is able to decide "I want to alter my consciousness" then they are ready. Be it 6 years old or 60.



lol I don't think a 6 year old should be able to take hallucinogens because they "want to do it"

Kind of like how I don't think a 6 year old should be able to drive a car, whether they want to do it or otherwise




Did you want to take 'hallucinogens' when you were 6?


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Re: How young is too young to trip? [Re: Dawks] * 1
    #18791334 - 09/02/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm pretty sure if somebody told me I could take something that would make me see cool colors and think about life and feel really good I would probably want to try it. especially if somebody I looked up too told me I should


6 year olds are highly impressionable undeveloped people with little life experience to give them a solid perspective on things. you can convince any 6 year old you want that taking acid would be fun,

I doubt most 6 year olds can even grasp the concept of "wanting to change their consciousness"


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Re: How young is too young to trip? [Re: Sheekle]
    #18791348 - 09/02/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm pretty sure if somebody told me I could take something that would make me see cool colors and think about life and feel really good I would probably want to try it. especially if somebody I looked up too told me I should




So then what would be the downside?


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I doubt most 6 year olds can even grasp the concept of "wanting to change their consciousness"




That's exactly my point. Once that degree of sentience emerges the individual is "ready."


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Re: How young is too young to trip? [Re: Dawks]
    #18791352 - 09/02/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

sheekle how old were you your first trip


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Re: How young is too young to trip? [Re: Dawks]
    #18791356 - 09/02/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I sure am glad I didn't try to "change my consciousness" as soon as I knew what that meant.


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Re: How young is too young to trip? [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #18791359 - 09/02/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I sure am glad I didn't try to "change my consciousness" as soon as I knew what that meant.




Why?


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Re: How young is too young to trip? [Re: Dawks]
    #18791365 - 09/02/13 06:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Because young people have horrible judgement and no foresight. Seriously, do you even have to ask?


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Re: How young is too young to trip? [Re: KremrBigSikter]
    #18791378 - 09/02/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Because young people have horrible judgement and no foresight. Seriously, do you even have to ask?




I seriously have to ask because "young people" is a relative term that could apply to almost any age bracket.

"teenagers have horrible judgement and no foresight. "

"People in their twenties have horrible judgement and no foresight. "

"middle age people have horrible judgement and no foresight. "

"elderly people have horrible judgement and no foresight. "


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Re: How young is too young to trip? [Re: Dawks]
    #18791403 - 09/02/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

theres a big difference between a 6 year old and a 16 year old :shrug:


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Re: How young is too young to trip? [Re: Dawks]
    #18791441 - 09/02/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i think context has everything to do with everything. they give ayahuasca to children in south america, but they also have a culture that enables that experience to be easily integrated. there is no such culture in the rest of the world, at least in any mainstream sense of the term. the vast majority of parents will tell you that they're not in any way, shape or form okay with their kids using drugs or alcohol (to a lesser extent). so ideally, without the cultural framework that is necessitated by widespread psychedelic use, especially among minors, the best we can do is to encourage kids to wait until they are older and "on task" with their lives and are stable, productive adults capable of making mature decisions about their substance intake.


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Re: How young is too young to trip? [Re: GEncore]
    #18791446 - 09/02/13 07:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Summer before 8th grade (so age 13 for me) I got an older guy who bought me cigs to get me some salvia too. Can't say I was that "changed" by the experience- I smoked too much to where I had amnesia, for anyone familiar with it. A half hour or so later I realized I needed to put away my older brother's bong, and when I went to look for it, I found out I'd broken it. :facepalm:
When explaining what happened, my brother got pissed saying I was too young to be messing around with that, and said he wouldn't get me weed anymore, :mad2: the bastard :lol:


I was still really curious after, but I had put the whole gram into the bowl (wonder why I blacked out, huh?? :rolleyes::facepalm:) and before long I had mostly forgotten about wanting to try it again.


I smoked it a couple years after that and got a deju-vu feeling of having just relived the whole experience. Sometimes now I'll get the same sensation, but usually its towards a more recent trip.


8th grade year though, a friend and I were looking for his brother's weed and found few ounces of shrooms :crazy: we each ate maybe a couple grams worth and I had the most confusing, entertaining, and weirdest night I could ever imagine having :lol:

The majority of which was spent in a small school-bus yellow room in a chair that became increasingly too big for me.


That certainly struck home a lot more than the amnesiac salvia experience did :tongue2:


Found/ate acid the next year (freshman in HS) and dropped a few times that year. More in the first two years of high school than I ever have since. Mushrooms a few times but they started scaring the shit out of me that year.


I think people are just ready when they want to try them-
I don't think it will fuck-up anyones life that wasn't already going to be fucked.
:shrug: just my opinion though.

The people that waited until after high school always seem more affected (and sometimes even get obsessed with which almost never ends well) by the experience than my friends who tripped with me during high school.
Again, just my 2 cents.


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Re: How young is too young to trip? [Re: Legend]
    #18791475 - 09/02/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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theres a big difference between a 6 year old and a 16 year old :shrug:




I remember having a laugh while reading an old diary entry of mine written when I was 8 years old. I found it amusing because it was more structured and better written than most of what I read these days by full grown, supposedly educated adults.  (even me :lol:)

When I was 8 years old I had no desire to trip, no need for it and I'm absolutely certain if I tried it at that age I wouldn't enjoy it very much. But that doesn't mean there aren't people out there that would benefit from it.

Furthermore eventually I did feel the call of psychedelics so I sought them out. This had nothing to do with my age and everything to do with my own degree of personal development, both intellectually and spiritually.

To suggest that all people below a certain age shouldn't do something just because you feel that you weren't ready at that age is ridiculously close minded.

As far as most of society is concerned nobody, regardless of age should take psychedelics because they make you go crazy, stare at the sun and jump out of windows.


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Re: How young is too young to trip? [Re: Dawks]
    #18791509 - 09/02/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I posted this in your other thread, but it fits here;


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He's still just a kid. Maturity aside, his brain is still in the process of development, and will be for several more years. It's better to wait. I first started smoking weed at 15, and my first trip was at 17. Cocaine & opiates also entered my world at 17. It seemed fine at the time, but in retrospect I wish that I would've waited until I was older. I wasn't really ready, and I went off the deep-end. If I could go back & do it all again I'd do it differently.








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Re: How young is too young to trip? [Re: Dark_Star]
    #18791513 - 09/02/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Respectable post :thumbup:


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Re: How young is too young to trip? [Re: pcplease]
    #18791521 - 09/02/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I think people are just ready when they want to try them-
I don't think it will fuck-up anyones life that wasn't already going to be fucked.
:shrug: just my opinion though.




I agree


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The people that waited until after high school always seem more affected (and sometimes even get obsessed with which almost never ends well) by the experience than my friends who tripped with me during high school.
Again, just my 2 cents.




I've noticed this trend too. As though people that start young are better at integrating and moving on with other things in their life whereas older folks get out of hand and start thinking only about drugs :strokebeard:


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Re: How young is too young to trip? [Re: Legend]
    #18791526 - 09/02/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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sheekle how old were you your first trip



16 about to be 17, it was a weak dose though. I had my first "real" trip when I was 17 I believe


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