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Does psychedelic experience aid in ayahuasca?
    #18790900 - 09/02/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hey guys,

I'll be doing ayahuasca either this week or the next and I'm a little concerned with how I'm going to take it. I've experienced ego death on LSD, psilocybin and RCs - tinkered in DMT as well - but I'm not sure what to 'expect' from myself while on ayahuasca.

I know that it's unwise to try to set up expectations, but I do want to know this: Will my previous ego death experiences help me through the ayahuasca experience or is it going to be completely different? I keep hearing that it's like "no other" but is it really?

I also haven't done any psychedelics for 2 or 3 years now. I sort of assume it'll just sort of "continue off" and, while I don't know it yet, I'll be thinking: "I remember this horrible feeling from last time".

Anyway - what do you think?


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Re: Does psychedelic experience aid in ayahuasca? [Re: OutThisLife]
    #18790910 - 09/02/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You're gonna be :trippinbawelz:. 2-3 years is a long time, I'm sure you already forgot how it is to trip.


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Re: Does psychedelic experience aid in ayahuasca? [Re: theRAPeutic]
    #18791085 - 09/02/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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tahp93 said:
You're gonna be :trippinbawelz:. 2-3 years is a long time, I'm sure you already forgot how it is to trip.




Haha, yeah.


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Re: Does psychedelic experience aid in ayahuasca? [Re: OutThisLife]
    #18791387 - 09/02/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Bump - I'm curious, it's hard to find related information. I've experienced a heroic dose of psilocybin and LSD and that's my 'biggest'.


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Re: Does psychedelic experience aid in ayahuasca? [Re: theRAPeutic]
    #18792515 - 09/02/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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tahp93 said:
You're gonna be :trippinbawelz:. 2-3 years is a long time, I'm sure you already forgot how it is to trip.




Can't help you with the aya, but wanted to address this one.  It had been 8 years or so between my most recent experiences.  Felt like riding a bike - some things you never forget.


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Re: Does psychedelic experience aid in ayahuasca? [Re: spiny]
    #18792666 - 09/02/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hmm I could see how that happens. When I stop smoking weed for awhile I forget how it feels. But I don't think I could ever forget my Shroom and Cid experiences.


Edited by theRAPeutic (09/02/13 11:26 PM)


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Re: Does psychedelic experience aid in ayahuasca? [Re: theRAPeutic]
    #18792868 - 09/03/13 12:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It sounds hokey but with aya its best not to expect anything but a real good time....if you can get the dose and timing right with the active and maoi plants.


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Re: Does psychedelic experience aid in ayahuasca? [Re: OutThisLife]
    #18792913 - 09/03/13 01:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Guy in the following video specifically says that previous experience with other psychedelic drugs made his experiences easier on him versus the other participants:


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Re: Does psychedelic experience aid in ayahuasca? [Re: s240779]
    #18793043 - 09/03/13 03:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Edited by rikuni (03/16/14 04:27 AM)


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Re: Does psychedelic experience aid in ayahuasca? [Re: rikuni]
    #18793251 - 09/03/13 06:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've had ego death on LSD, mushrooms, and 4-aco-dmt as well as plenty of experience with DMT and changa in the break through ranges. Ayahuasca made those look like tea parties. Now I'm sure it could be dose dependent. I accidentally took wayyyyyyyyy too much, but I considered myself to be decently experienced and nothing prepared me for that.

I'm not trying to scare you away, I'll actually be doing it again the end of this month. But a sitter is absolutely necessary and a ceremony is preferable.. I was out of control, begging people to kill me, cussing people out left and right (I was in ceremony). It was baddddd. If I wasNt surrounded by such amazing people I probably would have done something incredibly stupid. now I probably wouldn't do it again knowing what I know... But that brings me to my last point. Be prepared for something different. If the nature of the trip seems to change into something very unpsychedelic, that's normal. Just roll with it. When I crash landed out of the peak I was in a headspace that did not resemble any psychedelic space I'd ever been in. I thought the trip was long over and that I had ruined my brain. I broke down and it spiraled out of control from there


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Re: Does psychedelic experience aid in ayahuasca? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #18793721 - 09/03/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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I've had ego death on LSD, mushrooms, and 4-aco-dmt as well as plenty of experience with DMT and changa in the break through ranges. Ayahuasca made those look like tea parties. Now I'm sure it could be dose dependent. I accidentally took wayyyyyyyyy too much, but I considered myself to be decently experienced and nothing prepared me for that.

I'm not trying to scare you away, I'll actually be doing it again the end of this month. But a sitter is absolutely necessary and a ceremony is preferable.. I was out of control, begging people to kill me, cussing people out left and right (I was in ceremony). It was baddddd. If I wasNt surrounded by such amazing people I probably would have done something incredibly stupid. now I probably wouldn't do it again knowing what I know... But that brings me to my last point. Be prepared for something different. If the nature of the trip seems to change into something very unpsychedelic, that's normal. Just roll with it. When I crash landed out of the peak I was in a headspace that did not resemble any psychedelic space I'd ever been in. I thought the trip was long over and that I had ruined my brain. I broke down and it spiraled out of control from there





SIDENOTE: Cmon man cross out Salvia from your drug list in the sig :smile:


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Re: Does psychedelic experience aid in ayahuasca? [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #18793759 - 09/03/13 10:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

JacksonMetaller said:
I've had ego death on LSD, mushrooms, and 4-aco-dmt as well as plenty of experience with DMT and changa in the break through ranges. Ayahuasca made those look like tea parties. Now I'm sure it could be dose dependent. I accidentally took wayyyyyyyyy too much, but I considered myself to be decently experienced and nothing prepared me for that.

I'm not trying to scare you away, I'll actually be doing it again the end of this month. But a sitter is absolutely necessary and a ceremony is preferable.. I was out of control, begging people to kill me, cussing people out left and right (I was in ceremony). It was baddddd. If I wasNt surrounded by such amazing people I probably would have done something incredibly stupid. now I probably wouldn't do it again knowing what I know... But that brings me to my last point. Be prepared for something different. If the nature of the trip seems to change into something very unpsychedelic, that's normal. Just roll with it. When I crash landed out of the peak I was in a headspace that did not resemble any psychedelic space I'd ever been in. I thought the trip was long over and that I had ruined my brain. I broke down and it spiraled out of control from there





SIDENOTE: Cmon man cross out Salvia from your drug list in the sig :smile:




I've been sitting on it for months but have been distracted with other drugs haha. I like to give my brain room between mindfucks


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Re: Does psychedelic experience aid in ayahuasca? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #18793777 - 09/03/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Actually... It's much like others.... You will feel the familiar feeling you do with mushrooms or cactus ... DMT is very similar chemical to pysilocybin really

You are way over thinking this.... 
Yes, it's different... But not as much as you are hearing.

Dosing can be a bit hit and miss, based on amount of actual DMT taken, other pyschoactive chemicals ingested, and the MAOI/timing...

Comes on fast... Be ready.... Set and Setting like always

But don't over think this... You will be fine... Relax, have no expectations as my friend above said

Go with it

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Re: Does psychedelic experience aid in ayahuasca? [Re: HarryL]
    #18793913 - 09/03/13 11:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

HarryL said:
Actually... It's much like others.... You will feel the familiar feeling you do with mushrooms or cactus ... DMT is very similar chemical to pysilocybin really

You are way over thinking this.... 
Yes, it's different... But not as much as you are hearing.

Dosing can be a bit hit and miss, based on amount of actual DMT taken, other pyschoactive chemicals ingested, and the MAOI/timing...

Comes on fast... Be ready.... Set and Setting like always

But don't over think this... You will be fine... Relax, have no expectations as my friend above said

Go with it

Peace




You could be right. It could all be a dosing factor. I just know that I've never felt anything as intense and emotionally traumatizing (good and bad) as aya. Even on DMT. Something about the maoi seemed to give it an extra layer.

But my experience is limited. Dosing is definitely hit and miss. It screwed me hard as I was expecting a ++ and ended up with a solid +++++


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Re: Does psychedelic experience aid in ayahuasca? [Re: spiny]
    #18795796 - 09/03/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

HarryL said:
Actually... It's much like others.... You will feel the familiar feeling you do with mushrooms or cactus ... DMT is very similar chemical to pysilocybin really

You are way over thinking this.... 
Yes, it's different... But not as much as you are hearing.

Dosing can be a bit hit and miss, based on amount of actual DMT taken, other pyschoactive chemicals ingested, and the MAOI/timing...

Comes on fast... Be ready.... Set and Setting like always

But don't over think this... You will be fine... Relax, have no expectations as my friend above said

Go with it

Peace




This helps, thank you. I feel like it's a bit overhyped or, due to the crazy setting that some people take aya in, it's just taken far. I'll be in my office with my music, ha.


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Guy in the following video specifically says that previous experience with other psychedelic drugs made his experiences easier on him versus the other participants:





Nice, thanks for this.
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I've had ego death on LSD, mushrooms, and 4-aco-dmt as well as plenty of experience with DMT and changa in the break through ranges. Ayahuasca made those look like tea parties. Now I'm sure it could be dose dependent. I accidentally took wayyyyyyyyy too much, but I considered myself to be decently experienced and nothing prepared me for that.

I'm not trying to scare you away, I'll actually be doing it again the end of this month. But a sitter is absolutely necessary and a ceremony is preferable.. I was out of control, begging people to kill me, cussing people out left and right (I was in ceremony). It was baddddd. If I wasNt surrounded by such amazing people I probably would have done something incredibly stupid. now I probably wouldn't do it again knowing what I know... But that brings me to my last point. Be prepared for something different. If the nature of the trip seems to change into something very unpsychedelic, that's normal. Just roll with it. When I crash landed out of the peak I was in a headspace that did not resemble any psychedelic space I'd ever been in. I thought the trip was long over and that I had ruined my brain. I broke down and it spiraled out of control from there




That's crazy man. Have you ever had bad trips before this aya experience?

I'm not sure if you could really know in an environment like that, but what dosage do you think you had? Mine's going to be very controlled, was yours sort of "loose"?

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You're gonna be :trippinbawelz:. 2-3 years is a long time, I'm sure you already forgot how it is to trip.




Can't help you with the aya, but wanted to address this one.  It had been 8 years or so between my most recent experiences.  Felt like riding a bike - some things you never forget.



Great, good to know. I know that all psy. experiences are different and than exceptions are meek, but the ability to ride it.. I think that's what I want to make sure I can still have.


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Re: Does psychedelic experience aid in ayahuasca? [Re: OutThisLife]
    #18796203 - 09/03/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

How are you taking it, what kind of ceremony? Santo Daime, Peruvian shaman, freestyling it some other way? IMO the setting and the music/ceremony play a big part in how you end up tripping.

Also, for my money (done it a few times with teh Santo Daime) it was a very "friendly" trip. Even that one time that I threw up (the first time I took it) that was still very nice. Then the aya showed me how to "tell" my stomach to "spiral it down" instead of vomiting. At least for normal Santo Daime doses, it seems to work.

Just make sure you're rested, have an empty stomach and are ready in body and mind, for a nice adventure. Bring back gifts of wisdom to share :biggrin:


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