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How to Tell If Bag Is Ready?
    #18789270 - 09/02/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I injected two mycobags from a shroomery sponsor a while back. I thought they were dead but they are colonizing now. Problem is that I can't really see in the bag because there is substrate blocking my view, and if  I knock it around I might break the cake.
How do I know when to expose the cake to light? Would it be better to fruit in bag since I can't see it or should I risk it, open the bag, and put it in my shotgun?


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Re: How to Tell If Bag Is Ready? [Re: JackOfNoTrades]
    #18789282 - 09/02/13 11:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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How do I know when to expose the cake to light?



It should be exposed to ambient/indirect light from day 1.

I assume you mean when do you know when to fruit it, which in that case is when the mycellium has colonized 100% of the substrate.

If we are talking about BRF cakes, then you wait a week past full colonization before fruiting.

Fruiting is providing constant FAE.

Jars/bags/tubs/trays should colonize @ room temperature getting ambient/indirect light.

Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.

Light is a secondary pinning trigger. For tropical species temperature is not a pinning factor.

P. Cubensis are a tropical species. You could colonize at 70F and fruit at 80F with great results.

Light has been proven beneficial during all stages of mycellium growth. Mushrooms like mammals have a circadian rhythm.

You want ambient/indirect light(on a 12/12 schedule preferably) for colonization and consolidation.

You want direct/intense 6500K light on a 12/12 schedule for fruiting.

Optimal temps are mid 70s throughout the whole grow, but anywhere from 65F-80F is acceptable.

Incubation is outdated/uneeded unless temps in the range stated above cannot be kept.

The inside of the jar is always a few degrees warmer than the outside because the mycellium produces heat..mycellium tends to stall at temps above 86F , and contams thrive.

Fruiting at cooler temps tends to produce denser, meatier fruits, while fruiting at higher temps will often produce hollow, less dense stems.


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JackOfNoTrades said:
Would it be better to fruit in bag since I can't see it or should I risk it, open the bag, and put it in my shotgun?



Fruiting in the bag is never the best option.

Put it in a properly built SGFC once fully colonized for best results.


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Re: How to Tell If Bag Is Ready? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18789436 - 09/02/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If I put the mycobag cake into the SGFC should I coat it with verm? I DO NOT want to dunk it, and risk it. Or should I just place it as is?


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Re: How to Tell If Bag Is Ready? [Re: JackOfNoTrades]
    #18789507 - 09/02/13 12:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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JackOfNoTrades said:
If I put the mycobag cake into the SGFC should I coat it with verm? I DO NOT want to dunk it, and risk it. Or should I just place it as is?



If it's BRF in the bag, I would dunk and roll it....

Dunking a fully colonized substrate poses no risks, except for proper hydration.


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Re: How to Tell If Bag Is Ready? [Re: PussyFart]
    #18789964 - 09/02/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have a question that fits here so i hope the OP doesn't mind. I have two rye grain bags that i shook and now are at near 100%. underneath the bag has folded corners, there is one or two grains not colonized because they are stuck in the flap.

What are my options? a few days ago i tried to squeeze it close to the myc to get colonization. Idk if it helped much


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