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WTF!... Worms in my jars! update with pics*
    #18788559 - 09/02/13 07:19 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Got home from work and went to check my jars. Most are consolidating and have been for a couple days. But two of them have a tiny spot in the bottom that has yet to colonize. Very little progress over the last couple days. So I turn the jar upside down to get the myc off the side of the jar and a tiny fucking maggot looking thing comes crawling out of the spot... no discoloration and they smell fine.
Anyone think I can salvage these? Its only two of my nine luckily.

Pretty pissed off at the moment.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: heratogwea]
    #18788585 - 09/02/13 07:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

pretty gnarly that thing survived sterilization of the jars.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: sabo]
    #18788590 - 09/02/13 07:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You're telling me. Think I'm gonna crumble them both and spawn to bulk and hope for the best. Unless someone can give me a reason not to. Just sucks how healthy these jars have been.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: heratogwea]
    #18788595 - 09/02/13 07:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What was your sterilization method bud?


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: heratogwea]
    #18788602 - 09/02/13 07:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I had the same thing happen to me the other day. I was really pissed so I trashed the jars... came from using old wbs.

Spawn it and see what happens. Do you see any metabolites or other signs of contamination?(besides the maggot)


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: JML]
    #18788629 - 09/02/13 07:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No weird colors or smells. Will be interesting when I crumble to say the least.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: sabo]
    #18788637 - 09/02/13 07:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Bet he didn't use a pressure cooker.  Hardcore if he did.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: ClockCode]
    #18788684 - 09/02/13 08:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No pc. Still don't see how these guys would have survived at 217 degrees for an hour and a half.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: heratogwea]
    #18788699 - 09/02/13 08:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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No pc. Still don't see how these guys would have survived at 217 degrees for an hour and a half.



There is no way they did.  These guys came in after the jar cooled.  Either you introduced them, or they found a way past whatever physical barrier is on your jar. 


***EDIT*** I missed what type of jar, but now that I read, it seems (I am assuming) that you are doing a PF tek.  They probally crawled in past the verm layer.


Im sorry to state it like that, but it seems apparent that something went wrong. If they are maggots, they will mature, and lay more eggs.  They will not go away unless you get rid of them.  They bring contamination and eat mushrooms.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #18788718 - 09/02/13 08:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the reply whippy. Do you think I should spawn them? I only saw 3 worms. 2 in one jar and one in the other. And yes they are pf cakes.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: heratogwea]
    #18788726 - 09/02/13 08:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Toss them man. You spawn those and you'll have more maggots and probably fungal gnats.
Go far far from your home and dump those outside somewhere where they might fruit.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: heratogwea]
    #18788729 - 09/02/13 08:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

On second thought I really don't want these in my fruiting chamber. Think ill just bury them and hope something springs up.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: heratogwea]
    #18788734 - 09/02/13 08:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Compost pile.

I'd try fruiting them, just not in the same chamber as the good cakes.  Pick out the maggots and eggs and fruit those bastards.  Can't hurt to try right?  Unless you only have one fruiting chamber.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: ClockCode]
    #18788795 - 09/02/13 09:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Gonna try and bury them. Have a great spot where horses were stabled under an awning. Poo should be aged a good 2 years.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: ClockCode]
    #18788823 - 09/02/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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ClockCode said:
Pick out the maggots and eggs and fruit those bastards.  Can't hurt to try right?  Unless you only have one fruiting chamber.



I had these son of a bitches take over an enormous yellow oyster straw log earlier this year.  The thing was pinning like mad, and was putting out some healthy fruits.  The back corner had an odd look one afternoon, and upon inspection it was crawling with maggots and flies.  I re-located it outside and literally tossed it into my pile of logs.  The bugs never left.  They destroyed the whole thing.  My thought with its relocation was that it could possibly colonize the logs that I squished it into.  I actually just took a hike out to the pile after my previous post, and found what looks like mycelium growing just under the bark. 

Funnier yet....the only reason I even had that log pile is because the week earlier a tree fell and crushed my Cadillac.  Its just a log pile full of hate and woe.  This summer has been a total fuck around for me. 

Bottom line, you don't want them bastards in your home or grow area.  Bury the cakes, or burn them.  Either way get it as far away as you can.  Spores from contamination can spread, but these bastards have wings and can smell mushrooms from miles away apparently.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #18789049 - 09/02/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting.  Glad I've read a case before actually running into these little guys.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #18789096 - 09/02/13 10:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Whippy said:

Funnier yet....the only reason I even had that log pile is because the week earlier a tree fell and crushed my Cadillac.  Its just a log pile full of hate and woe.




What a shame.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: Cadillacjacques]
    #18789277 - 09/02/13 11:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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What a shame.



No, the real shame is that I paid cash for the car a month earlier.  I got the title in the mail 2 days earlier.  My insurance co is still pissed because I keep a $100 deductible....Technically I made $1400 more than I paid for it. 

"Why pay for such a low deductible?" they asked.  I explained real simple that my car gets me to work, which gets me paid.  If I don't have a car, I don't make money.  I like to know that if there is an issue, it will get sorted out quick and cheap.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #18789360 - 09/02/13 11:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I would bury them outside man. I wouldn't risk two tiny jars contaminating everything


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: rockstaradam]
    #18790729 - 09/02/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's the plan. Now I'm supper paranoid about my other four that are finishing up on the bottom.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: heratogwea]
    #18796897 - 09/03/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Say what you will guys...but I birthed those cakes. Each had a tiny spot at the top that did not colonize where the worms were. I could only see two worms on each cake. So I cut the tiny portion off both and killed the worms.
The sub under the cut was beautifully colonized and no off colors or smells. So I dunked for 12 hours and rolled.
Only reason I'm trying this is my other cakes have a little under a week to consolidate, and in that time I will monitor these two for any creepy crawlers or weird colors.

Say what you will...but I think these are salvaged. Will update with pics tomorrow.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: heratogwea]
    #18797258 - 09/03/13 11:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Either way, think about even if one of those eggs survived, and then you eat those shrooms. what kind of things are you introducing to your body? I'm not trying to tell you what to do, but I have some medical background and I really really would suggest just throwing them away, far away from where you sleep at night.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: rawrrock]
    #18797715 - 09/04/13 01:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Birthing those cakes is an absolutely terrible idea.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: Insomnia411]
    #18797788 - 09/04/13 02:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: abltsandwich]
    #18797937 - 09/04/13 04:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have a history of having to learn the hard way.

And like I said...if anything weird shows up in a week...they are going in the trash.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: heratogwea]
    #18798252 - 09/04/13 07:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No pics?
C'mon man!  :pirate:  :facepalm3:
missed opportunity, i say.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: druranium]
    #18798274 - 09/04/13 07:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

At work right now. Will be up tonight.


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Re: WTF!... Worms in my jars! [Re: heratogwea]
    #18800969 - 09/04/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So I woke up this morning to find a suspect jar to have a worm or two...to actually have one. This will be the last time I colonize on my attic stairs. Anyway I birthed, rinsed off real good, and dunked. Finally got home and pulled it out to find it looking completely normal, so I rolled and placed with the other two worm cakes in the terrarium.
I actually believe whatever the worms are were actually feeding on the sub not the myc. The reason I say is because the cake I found the worm on this morning finally colonized over the tiny spot that was left, and the single worm I found in that jar was against the glass...presumably dead.
Here is all three of them. I forgot to grind my verm...so my casing is pretty shitty..

Here is the one I just dunked and rolled. Turned pretty blue after the dunk..was submerged somewhere around 14 hours

And this last pic is of a knot forming that is kind of worrying.


Sorry didn't realize how blurry the last pic was. Will try to update tomorrow with a better pic.


Edited by heratogwea (09/04/13 08:56 PM)


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