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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Offlinelolwut
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Do you ever feel "done"?
    #18787254 - 09/01/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Referring mainly to the older guys here: As I've grown up I've developed my intellect and philosophy with time as everyone does, and it seems to keep unraveling or unfolding, not in a bad way, and not necessarily building upon itself, but things keep getting deeper and more profound, or so it seems. 

With life experience and thought comes wisdom (in some people at least) and thought processes are made, discontinued, etc.

It seems to me like all we're really discovering here are models for our own personal understanding of this place, worldviews, houses of cards...and while people say "you get wiser with age" it seems that that's just because the older you are the more houses of cards you've demolished within yourself/seen demolished in other people.

My question is is this a process that continues with age, or do certain models start to stand out and your worldview gets more "correct" (as far as subjectivity can be correct)?


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Re: Do you ever feel "done"? [Re: lolwut]
    #18787285 - 09/01/13 09:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think every time you realise you don't know shit you get older.


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Re: Do you ever feel "done"? [Re: circastes]
    #18787382 - 09/01/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I've become suspicious of most kinds of certainty. More often then not it seems to represent little more than complacency.

I hope to continue demolishing and rebuilding models of thought, subjectivity, etc. until the day I die.


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Re: Do you ever feel "done"? [Re: lolwut]
    #18787405 - 09/01/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I find I say the same things in different ways but nothing has really changed. I'm at the end of the philosophical road for myself I guess. There's nothing I want to figure out but the wheels keep turning any ways. And in their turning they just keep spewing out the same old concepts in different ways. It's very rare that anything new comes up.

The small moments of "oh!" are when someone says something old in a very concise or clear way. There is a small applause inside that thinks, nice one!


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Re: Do you ever feel "done"? [Re: lolwut]
    #18787576 - 09/01/13 10:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

lolwut said:


It seems to me like all we're really discovering here are models for our own personal understanding of this place, worldviews, houses of cards...and while people say "you get wiser with age" it seems that that's just because the older you are the more houses of cards you've demolished within yourself/seen demolished in other people.







What if I never build any houses, with cards or otherwise? Then I'm truly a lost soul.  :sad:


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Re: Do you ever feel "done"? [Re: lolwut]
    #18788009 - 09/02/13 01:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I feel done in.  That's probably not the answer you were looking for.  I come to exactly the same conclusions every fucking day. :jimmorrison:


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Re: Do you ever feel "done"? [Re: Icelander]
    #18788397 - 09/02/13 05:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

In a way it is what I was hoping for, it means this silly monkey game of trying to find the best philosophy and mindset and the golden ticket to super happy fun land has an ending and I can just throw in the towel now, let the insights happen as they happen, and chill the fuck out and deal with it all as it comes instead of trying to preempt by thinking myself into a nonexistent paradise :awepreciation:


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Re: Do you ever feel "done"? [Re: lolwut]
    #18788442 - 09/02/13 06:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I say run with that. :thumbup:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Do you ever feel "done"? [Re: lolwut]
    #18788527 - 09/02/13 07:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I get repeatedly disappointed in some things (mostly the behavior and reliability of other people), however, I see it as a fundamental aspect in all things (unsatisfactoriness) and it always was, not just people - stuff itself is perfectly imperfect or only imperfectly perfect.

I was a physically disabled child, and so learned early on that much can be done without.

often to some improvement. (I am a minimalist kind of designer)

the only residual deformity, in my case, is that my left and right legs do not match exactly when I lie down. this is not an inspection that normally occurs and my wife has never mentioned it.

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that does not answer your question properly tho:
to feel done means to have a body experience that involves crappy (maybe hollow to the core crappy) feelings and ideas that are cut off from resolution: hopelessly cycling between ideas of unsatisfactoriness, and ideas of powerlessness and back again.
there is a brutality to it.
the brutality takes energy.


I think people of all ages get into these cycles.

WTF


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Re: Do you ever feel "done"? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #18788624 - 09/02/13 07:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

she's likely focused on the length of the middle leg.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Do you ever feel "done"? [Re: lolwut]
    #18788674 - 09/02/13 08:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

lolwut said:
Referring mainly to the older guys here: As I've grown up I've developed my intellect and philosophy with time as everyone does, and it seems to keep unraveling or unfolding, not in a bad way, and not necessarily building upon itself, but things keep getting deeper and more profound, or so it seems. 

With life experience and thought comes wisdom (in some people at least) and thought processes are made, discontinued, etc.

It seems to me like all we're really discovering here are models for our own personal understanding of this place, worldviews, houses of cards...and while people say "you get wiser with age" it seems that that's just because the older you are the more houses of cards you've demolished within yourself/seen demolished in other people.

My question is is this a process that continues with age, or do certain models start to stand out and your worldview gets more "correct" (as far as subjectivity can be correct)?




The house of cards analogy is a good one.  Unfortunately/fortunately the biggest house of cards has yet to collapse.  We are going to be Fukushima'd and it ain't gonna be pretty.  Does anyone think they can somehow remove 1400 fuel rods safely and without touching each other in a sinking building?  Oh sure keep dumping water on the problem and filling tanks that are leaking into the ocean and into the underground river that runs right under the plant on it's way to Tokyo.



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