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OfflineYogi1
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I have recently discovered I am Psychopathic/ Sociopathic.
    #18785785 - 09/01/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

This is not a certainty but the literature is 90 percent accurate to my personality.

PsychologyToday

This is my Levenson Self Report

"You have completed the Levenson Self-Report Psychopathy Scale.

The LSRP measures two scales.

Scores range from 1 (low) to 5 (high).

Your score from primary psychopathy has been calculated as 2.3. Primary psychopathy is the affective aspects of psychopathy; a lack of empathy for other people and tolerance for antisocial orientations.

Your score from secondary psychopathy has been calculated as 4.4. Secondary psychopathy is the antisocial aspects of psychopathy; rule breaking and a lack of effort towards socially rewarded behavior. "

You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 57.99% of people who have taken this test.

You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 98.03% of people who have taken this test

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The thing is, as much as I hate the negative aspects of this disorder, mostly social, I love the beneficial traits and dont really want treatment.


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Re: I have recently discovered I am Psychopathic/ Sociopathic. [Re: Yogi1]
    #18785801 - 09/01/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If you understand which answers gives the best impression, are you then being qualified to receive feedback?


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Re: I have recently discovered I am Psychopathic/ Sociopathic. [Re: liquidlounge]
    #18785821 - 09/01/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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liquidlounge said:
If you understand which answers gives the best impression, are you then being qualified to receive feedback?




I dont understand. Are you saying that because I feel I have recognized this that I am most likely not psychotic?

If youre asking for what I think proves I am psychotic, reading the article I cited, I parallel every single trait except the lack of empathy. What it basically means to me is that I'm a secondary psychotic.


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Re: I have recently discovered I am Psychopathic/ Sociopathic. [Re: Yogi1]
    #18786010 - 09/01/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Noone want to contribute? I would find it quite helpful.


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Re: I have recently discovered I am Psychopathic/ Sociopathic. [Re: Yogi1]
    #18786210 - 09/01/13 05:34 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Yogi1 said:
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liquidlounge said:
If you understand which answers gives the best impression, are you then being qualified to receive feedback?




I dont understand. Are you saying that because I feel I have recognized this that I am most likely not psychotic?

If youre asking for what I think proves I am psychotic, reading the article I cited, I parallel every single trait except the lack of empathy. What it basically means to me is that I'm a secondary psychotic.




Psychopathy is NOT the same thing as Psychotic, not even close. You are confusing two very different conditions. Moreover, this was not a diagnostic tool. I answered honestly, and received a 1.1 both for primary and secondary Psychopathy. This was a very simplistic instrument. The MMPI is the standard in the field.

You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 3.19% of people who have taken this test.

You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 0.53% of people who have taken this test.


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Re: I have recently discovered I am Psychopathic/ Sociopathic. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #18786423 - 09/01/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

My results.

>>You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 41.76% of people who have taken this test.

>>You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 44.28% of people who have taken this test.

Some seem best answered in the neutral and some seem best in the somewhat likely or unlikely category. I don't think it's a valid test for primary or secondary, but the comparative results are interesting. You're secondary score is pretty high. Maybe check the questions and point out a few you think may have brought your score up if you want some commentary on it.


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Re: I have recently discovered I am Psychopathic/ Sociopathic. [Re: Rahz]
    #18786693 - 09/01/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Rahz said:
My results.

>>You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 41.76% of people who have taken this test.

>>You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 44.28% of people who have taken this test.

Some seem best answered in the neutral and some seem best in the somewhat likely or unlikely category. I don't think it's a valid test for primary or secondary, but the comparative results are interesting. You're secondary score is pretty high. Maybe check the questions and point out a few you think may have brought your score up if you want some commentary on it.




Pretty much any question relating to empathy was met with an agree at least, because I do have a strong sense of empathy and ethics, but, any of the questions relating to social anxiety, weak emotional bonds to family and friends, and megalomania, I always scored almost completely negatively.

Honestly I never knew this correlation was anything more than a social hangup, but I almost completely am in the secondary sociopathic field which basically amounts to weak relationships, destructive relationship tendencies, and a lack of interest in anything social.

I dont know that I think the destructive outweighs the benefits of being unemotional in a world of emotional misdirection.

(superpowers include, weak response to physical pain, significantly less fear and more confidence than the next person, supposedly increased testosterone, impervious to bullets)

^ might have been liberal with the last superpower.


Edited by Yogi1 (09/01/13 07:40 PM)


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Re: I have recently discovered I am Psychopathic/ Sociopathic. [Re: Yogi1]
    #18786701 - 09/01/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If you have empathy you are not a sociopath.


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Re: I have recently discovered I am Psychopathic/ Sociopathic. [Re: Icelander]
    #18786729 - 09/01/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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If you have empathy you are not a sociopath.




Its false. I am not a psychopath or a primary sociopath, but I seem to fit the bill for a strong parallel to a secondary sociopath.

I think if you do a search on secondary sociopaths you'll understand. This is not bragging as I tend to have a very hard time in jobs and keeping a family relationship. Make no mistake its drawbacks are severe in a typical social or formal setting.

It might just be a social disorder but I am concerned about never shaking the lack of emotional connection I have with people. Makes for a lonely life and a slight sense of social worthlessness because I dont value others.


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Re: I have recently discovered I am Psychopathic/ Sociopathic. [Re: Yogi1]
    #18786803 - 09/01/13 08:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Let me ask you.  Do you fantasize about what a close relationship would feel like?  Have you ever been close to a pet or anything at all?


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Re: I have recently discovered I am Psychopathic/ Sociopathic. [Re: Yogi1]
    #18786831 - 09/01/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

You must love yourself to truly value others, know what you love, appreciate life and yourself

I think sociopath is another case of soul loss, not necessarily fully, but partially

Forgetting who we are..

If you are careless about yourself/others you got soul loss. It's natural to appreciate every part of yourself, appreciate others/everything you see and be happy / play / do what you love

We never get too old to have fun, if we do, we are missing some part of ourself


Do you appreciate life?
Do you know what you love?


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Re: I have recently discovered I am Psychopathic/ Sociopathic. [Re: Icelander]
    #18786840 - 09/01/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Let me ask you.  Do you fantasize about what a close relationship would feel like?  Have you ever been close to a pet or anything at all?




It can be that for a fleeting moment, but my relationships usually devolve until people arent in my life anymore. I have cats, I love felines in general, but again it devolves from me showing appreciation to them to forgetting about them.

I think youre trying to draw out an empathic response and it is there, but I fit every other piece of info i can find to a T. :ohwell:


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Re: I have recently discovered I am Psychopathic/ Sociopathic. [Re: Yogi1]
    #18786860 - 09/01/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I think we should all take it.

Quote:

You have completed the Levenson Self-Report Psychopathy Scale.

The LSRP measures two scales.

Scores range from 1 (low) to 5 (high).

Your score from primary psychopathy has been calculated as 3.1. Primary psychopathy is the affective aspects of psychopathy; a lack of empathy for other people and tolerance for antisocial orientations.

Your score from secondary psychopathy has been calculated as 2.1. Secondary psychopathy is the antisocial aspects of psychopathy; rule breaking and a lack of effort towards socially rewarded behavior.

With two scores, results of the LSRP are very suitable for being plotted. Below is the distribution of how other people who have taken this test have scored.




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Re: I have recently discovered I am Psychopathic/ Sociopathic. [Re: lessismore]
    #18786863 - 09/01/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I dont really know about whether or not I love myself. I seem to find ways to love life from time to time, but I certainly dont take care of myself all that well, if that says anything of the matter.

The only close relationship I have is with my girlfriend of a long time and I still seem to treat her like shit withoout even realizing it. The person I'm supposed to love and I can recognize I treat her like shit, and some times I wont care.

Sorry about turning this into a dr Phil thread, but I was alarmed when I read the op info on the phych site and I thought this thread might get me somewhere. Some of the people on this site are incredibly intelligent and a ton of us are fucked up in some way.


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Re: I have recently discovered I am Psychopathic/ Sociopathic. [Re: lessismore]
    #18786868 - 09/01/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

also it's natural to see nature as sacred I think :-)

or maybe it's just me, but it's nature that reconnects us
and I remember it from many years back before I found myself again, it was the same connection

houseplants,pets,walk in nature, sit in nature,gardening
each brings infinite happiness , just notice the miracles of nature everyday

running in nature and cycling in nature brings good mood for the rest of the day too, almost impossible to get stressed/in bad mood after it

it's natural to be creative too, but most people forget that side of themselves
that creativity brings happiness and turns off thoughts


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Re: I have recently discovered I am Psychopathic/ Sociopathic. [Re: Yogi1]
    #18786890 - 09/01/13 08:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Yogi1 said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
Let me ask you.  Do you fantasize about what a close relationship would feel like?  Have you ever been close to a pet or anything at all?




It can be that for a fleeting moment, but my relationships usually devolve until people arent in my life anymore. I have cats, I love felines in general, but again it devolves from me showing appreciation to them to forgetting about them.

I think youre trying to draw out an empathic response and it is there, but I fit every other piece of info i can find to a T. :ohwell:




Well what the fuck can I say, call it anything you want but we are what we are. :shrug:


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Re: I have recently discovered I am Psychopathic/ Sociopathic. [Re: Yogi1]
    #18786894 - 09/01/13 08:30 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

What should "he" do?


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Re: I have recently discovered I am Psychopathic/ Sociopathic. [Re: Yage]
    #18787615 - 09/01/13 11:04 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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Yage said:
What should "he" do?




He can consult with a professional who is trained to diagnose and treat disorders of the mind. One has to know exactly what the warp and woof of a client's personality is before one can devise a treatment plan to compensate for the distortions. It's no different than my optometrist discerning where the astigmatism is on my eye, then prescribing  the appropriate lenses to compensate for the dimple or wave that creates the distortion, such that a capital 'I' becomes an 'L,' or an 'O' becomes a 'Q.' One doesn't treat someone with Borderline Personality Disorder as one would treat, say, someone with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. In fact, from a psychoanalytic perspective, getting a Borderline to become more Narcissistic is a movement towards mental health. The Borderline has a very tenuous, almost non-existent sense of selfhood, while a Narcissist has an over-abundance of egotism. Most people have distortions of personality. Not all distortions are of such severity that reality-testing is impaired, but professionals in this field are necessary if one wants to know how best to proceed with psychological balance. Only the most dysfunctional really need medications. I have met few pianists, even accomplished ones, who are proficient in tuning their own pianos.


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Re: I have recently discovered I am Psychopathic/ Sociopathic. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #18787999 - 09/02/13 01:42 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not taking any new patients at the moment. :satansmoking:


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Re: I have recently discovered I am Psychopathic/ Sociopathic. [Re: Yogi1]
    #18788614 - 09/02/13 07:47 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Yogi1 said:
Its false. I am not a psychopath or a primary sociopath, but I seem to fit the bill for a strong parallel to a secondary sociopath.

I think if you do a search on secondary sociopaths you'll understand. This is not bragging as I tend to have a very hard time in jobs and keeping a family relationship. Make no mistake its drawbacks are severe in a typical social or formal setting.

It might just be a social disorder but I am concerned about never shaking the lack of emotional connection I have with people. Makes for a lonely life and a slight sense of social worthlessness because I dont value others.




No OP, I won't take the "test" or submit myself to any labeling from you or your source.  I won't agree that I am like you, that I like you, or that I should in fact like you or be like you.

I do have to be honest, if you are a sociopath you aren't very good at it. What's this second team shit, man?  Get up to primary and appreciate sociopathy for its richness.  I mean sounds like your family still talks with you, and you still have a cat.  No real sociopath would allow either in his life.



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