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Offlinecircastes
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Terence McKenna is right about almost everything and he'll be a hero in retrospect
    #18779627 - 08/30/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

We are about to encroach upon a whole new order.

The sort of unity only truly divine beings, children of God, can handle. Paradise, heaven, it's coming to Earth.

The sort of unity where in all beings are completely one and the spiritual actions of one alone affect the rest, and only good can be done.

This reality is a living conundrum and the idea is to solve its riddles. When you do, you seem to step the whole thing up onto a new level, for everyone... for everyone... because you are the other, this is all inside Yourself.

I think I personally have solved some aspect of the riddle on several occasions and witnessed things that only a schizophrenic would babble about, and I'm schizophrenic so I have the cloak and that grain of salt credibility, but I can tell you for a fact that Cinderella walked past my house, that I became a hero of the great dream this is and people treated me as such, and that I seemed to be known by everyone, some kind of exception, some kind of piercing of the logic of reality.

They were just windows I find now. Reality is stable and supportive, it doesn't allow such anomalies to just destroy the game for everyone, they were just windows of completely unexpected natural activity that didn't afford me power but instead infused sheer mystery, and a benevolent, harmless mystery at that.

They were gifts, for having solved the riddle.

Now, having worked so tirelessly at trying to understand the nature of what is happening to me, reality, and everyone else, I think I have opened evolutionary doors for this whole conundrum. I think I have sped up the evolution of everything into a whole new order of reality.

This is the sort of order that if you think positive, the weather will be positive. The sun will shine brighter, the wind will not blow... subtle things that reveal we are actually in a divine field of information, there is no physical sun or physical wind, Nature is a minded entity, the whole of reality is a living presence inside Yourself.

It seems either we took a shamanic journey as a species into a world of rational, reasonable thinking and designed our brilliant civilization but that we are now due to make the shamanic return to the world of living mystery that we came from. It will appear to us as a whole new order of reality, and surely we have evolved it with our rationality, we have changed it, it is due to shift back to something less experimental, something more supportive of the human enterprise.

Or we are subject to some kind of deception by our ruling elite, that society is deliberately designed to hide the mind of Nature. This is the darker, more paranoid idea, but I doubt it. If this is true, I consider myself a whistle blower. But no one is stopping me and no one stopped McKenna, so let's just assume we have dumb leaders who have been informed by smart-er paid people that for example psychedelic drugs will drop one out of their cultural operating system and allow them to reclaim aspects of their being that the government cannot control but which empower them. Naturally any level-headed government is going to scream and shout about this. They don't have to be evil.

So, you know... things are looking really good and all I do here is reiterate McKenna.

He's a god dang hero, so far ahead of his time... so far...


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Re: Terence McKenna is right about almost everything and he'll be a hero in retrospect [Re: circastes]
    #18779699 - 08/30/13 11:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I've read all TMK's books and listened to all his lectures, I wish he put out more material :sad:
He did do more than enough, but still, I want more. He'll always be a hero of mine and I feel that in the future he will gain more recognition when more and more of his predictions accurately come to pass.

I think I'm similar to you as I've made enormous, previously unimaginable strides in personal development and understanding of the universe.
One book which really helped me make sense of things is 'Your invisible power' by Genevieve Behrend, written in 1910ish.

Your new signature is a song which changed my life dramatically.
It is good to be here with you Circastes, even though I think I am you, and you are me, and we are everyone and everything.


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Re: Terence McKenna is right about almost everything and he'll be a hero in retrospect [Re: Tmethyl]
    #18779843 - 08/31/13 12:03 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I'm glad I found fellow McKenna fans, so many people put him down as a zealot, or crazy man. But I think many of his ideas are wonderful. Terence and Alan Watts have given me so much joy, and brought much value to my life as a whole, not to mention open my mind.

The psychedelic experience can be found in everyone, even without the plants. THe plants are wonderful teachers to speed up the process, but I believe that the world we live in is on the right track.

Governments and popular culture in many places still boast the values that were brought on by the industrial revolution and the 50's, but eventually, the small culture we are a part of may have a great influence on everyone else.

I don't want to make anyone believe anything, or force them to join my way of thinking, but only to open their minds to the silliness that is "Success".

These thoughts seem all over the place, but fit together perfectly in my head.


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Re: Terence McKenna is right about almost everything and he'll be a hero in retrospect [Re: Futuresight]
    #18780472 - 08/31/13 07:42 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Well he does take some getting used to. Much of his message is "everything you know is wrong." I think this is why he isn't very well known but those that like him really love his example and message.

Listening to Alien Dreamtime might be the most shattered my mind ever got without drugs or a special effort.


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Re: Terence McKenna is right about almost everything and he'll be a hero in retrospect [Re: viktor]
    #18780526 - 08/31/13 08:16 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

He's definitely intriguing. A hero of the psychedelia, maybe.


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Re: Terence McKenna is right about almost everything and he'll be a hero in retrospect [Re: viktor]
    #18780557 - 08/31/13 08:31 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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viktor said:
Well he does take some getting used to. Much of his message is "everything you know is wrong." I think this is why he isn't very well known but those that like him really love his example and message.

Listening to Alien Dreamtime might be the most shattered my mind ever got without drugs or a special effort.





If you think that's mind blowing try listening to  Jon Hassell's  "Forth World" or "Dream Theory in Mayala or "Last Night the Moon came Dropping it's Clothes in the Street.

Forth World is the best by far and the most haunting trippy music I've ever come across but is hard to get your hands on without spending some bucks.  Moon came Dropping is the most beautiful.  Here is the whole cd of Dream Theory which is still quite good. Try it on good headphones or a good system and you'll likely agree. Best listened to at 4 am while sitting quietly in the dark.


This is from Moon and is really cool.


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With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: Terence McKenna is right about almost everything and he'll be a hero in retrospect [Re: Icelander]
    #18780700 - 08/31/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I wonder, in death, what he has learned


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Re: Terence McKenna is right about almost everything and he'll be a hero in retrospect [Re: circastes]
    #18780951 - 08/31/13 11:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I think you might be cray cray if you take his material literally but he is about as intriguing and unique as it gets. Nice to know there are fellow fans on here. :thumbup:


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Re: Terence McKenna is right about almost everything and he'll be a hero in retrospect [Re: Icelander]
    #18781050 - 08/31/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

It's 5.45am right now, it's dark and I'm stoned, so this music is pretty out of it


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Re: Terence McKenna is right about almost everything and he'll be a hero in retrospect [Re: circastes]
    #18782451 - 08/31/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Do you take any medication for your schizophrenia?

When I was younger your vision of the immanent eschaton was very present to me also. Now my mentality is somewhat different and I think that kind of transcendence is available to individuals who cultivate it through spiritual and shamanic disciplines but probably won't fall on the world indiscriminately and effect everyone at once , although perhaps the prophesied singularity may be something like this.


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Re: Terence McKenna is right about almost everything and he'll be a hero in retrospect [Re: Ekemekakel]
    #18783309 - 08/31/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I wonder, in death, what he has learned





I'm guessing it's one of those boring things like, you must clean your shower or it grows mildew, or wash the dishes or else you'll be eating Indian style on banaheynana leaves. Don't do too many drugs or you're brain will be fried. The usual shit, like you're fucking dead. Game over.


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Re: Terence McKenna is right about almost everything and he'll be a hero in retrospect [Re: eve69]
    #18783703 - 09/01/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: Terence McKenna is right about almost everything and he'll be a hero in retrospect [Re: circastes]
    #18783925 - 09/01/13 02:11 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

If I want to listen to a drugged up sociopath, id rather record myself on mushrooms and play it back sober.


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Re: Terence McKenna is right about almost everything and he'll be a hero in retrospect [Re: cez]
    #18784313 - 09/01/13 07:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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If I want to listen to a drugged up sociopath, id rather record myself on mushrooms and play it back sober.




McKenna a sociopath? True though that after all that Aya he probably tripped forever.


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Re: Terence McKenna is right about almost everything and he'll be a hero in retrospect [Re: cez]
    #18784339 - 09/01/13 07:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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If I want to listen to a drugged up sociopath, id rather record myself on mushrooms and play it back sober.





Where's your evidence he was a sociopath?  It belittles you and not him to slander the dead.


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Re: Terence McKenna is right about almost everything and he'll be a hero in retrospect [Re: Icelander]
    #18785140 - 09/01/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

We are all sociopaths to a degree.
Preaching one's philosophy to the masses just strengthens one's degree.


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Re: Terence McKenna is right about almost everything and he'll be a hero in retrospect [Re: cez]
    #18785306 - 09/01/13 01:26 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

All of what you just said is nonsense imo.  There is no degree of sociopathology,  You is or you ain't.  And preaching your beliefs doesn't make you more sociopathic.  It just means you love the sound of your own beliefs. :lol:

I guess this means you don't have any evidence. :wink:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: Terence McKenna is right about almost everything and he'll be a hero in retrospect [Re: Icelander]
    #18785434 - 09/01/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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All of what you just said is nonsense imo.  There is no degree of sociopathology,  You is or you ain't.  And preaching your beliefs doesn't make you more sociopathic.  It just means you love the sound of your own beliefs. :lol:

I guess this means you don't have any evidence. :wink:




I would say from personal experience that some people show more of a conscience than others, or myself. That might just mean some are more image conscious than others though...


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Re: Terence McKenna is right about almost everything and he'll be a hero in retrospect [Re: Yogi1]
    #18785482 - 09/01/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

McKenna is more than intriguing if you've had the expansion of your mind to allow its experience of more than the ordinary. The mind co-creates and if you get it right all of what McKenna says falls into place. We are in a profound circumstance.

I take a high amount of medication for schizophrenia. A minimum dose of Risperdal, a maximum dose of Abilify and a strong mood stabiliser because my emotions are crazy I think due to how traumatic cannabis was for my latent-schizophrenia-brain.

I don't want to be on them for life and I hope in maybe 5 years I can see about trying to reduce them. Life long psychoactive medications are just begging for some kind of permanent brain changes.

I do strongly feel we are in the grip of something, that this is all on its way somewhere, I think it's really, really going to work out for all of us. I think we have to ignore the details like suffering and WWII and Africa which make us doubt anything was supposed to be at all, and look at the evidence of the co-creating mind, the identity of consciousness with God and the profound beauty and wonder of our planet. All it takes is a good mood to see it.

In my personal experience, it seems we have completely overlooked what is happening. I think like McKenna says you have to be a little bit air-headed to think we are in the universe we are educated to think we're in.

We're not even close to understanding what is happening. We are actually looking at, when we look at Nature, something completely bizarre and strange and beautiful which is completely open to your nervous system and ITS understanding but may never even by approachable by concepts.

And I think from my experiences of the nature of reality it can't go anywhere but to Heaven from here.


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Re: Terence McKenna is right about almost everything and he'll be a hero in retrospect [Re: circastes]
    #18785487 - 09/01/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I mean I look out my window right now and I've never seen a backyard so wrapped in mystery and beauty like that before. Today will be full of observations of this kind and I will just try to take it as the norm so I get used to it.


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