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filmoe


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Being alive right now is religion
#18785236 - 09/01/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Being alive right now is the most cosmic psychedelic spiritual event that will ever happen to you. When you take chemicals in this plane of existence it is as far out spiritually as you can go.(You all should be so greatful you get to experience that) most people are misinformed about these plants and will die never knowing how far out you can go in religion (life). The most spiritual thing you can do is just accept unconditional love right here. Isn't it AWESOME! So don't dwell on whats after this life because there is nothing! you dont exist after you die because you don't have a brain or a body to see hear smell taste. But don't worry that's what is so great you are nothing after life you never were, it isn't pitch black it is just as if you were in surgery on anesthetics you are just gone. There is no sadness pain misery because you don't have a brain to feel that way. So don't miss out on this cosmic party. Concentrate on what's happening in the now!!
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Re: Being alive right now is religion [Re: filmoe]
#18785287 - 09/01/13 01:23 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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All well and and good and I agree for the most part but not this among others. When you take chemicals in this plane of existence it is as far out spiritually as you can go. I can't see how you could know this? Maybe it's only as far as you can go.
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Edited by Icelander (09/01/13 01:23 PM)
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Re: Being alive right now is religion [Re: Icelander]
#18785365 - 09/01/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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what pushes are conscious boundaries more then chemicals?
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Re: Being alive right now is religion [Re: filmoe]
#18785480 - 09/01/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Will
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Re: Being alive right now is religion [Re: filmoe]
#18785595 - 09/01/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Death isn't the ultimate. There are more ultimate experiences.
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Re: Being alive right now is religion [Re: circastes]
#18785674 - 09/01/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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and you know this how? Or is that the meds talking? Just kidding.
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Re: Being alive right now is religion [Re: Icelander]
#18785941 - 09/01/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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filmoe said: what pushes are conscious boundaries more then chemicals?
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Re: Being alive right now is religion [Re: filmoe]
#18786759 - 09/01/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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filmoe said: what pushes are conscious boundaries more then chemicals?
endogenous chemicals can be as strong as a trip. A cognitive shift from some different perspective you've learned in life might also destroy previous conceptions.
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Re: Being alive right now is religion [Re: Yogi1]
#18787088 - 09/01/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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People can't see what's right in front of them. If you are gone when you die then you are simply gone. What makes people believe that after death is so much more technologically advanced..
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Re: Being alive right now is religion [Re: cez]
#18792797 - 09/03/13 12:12 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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filmoe said: what pushes are conscious boundaries more then chemicals?
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Willpower IMO is chemical processes in the brain. Neuroscience studies have shown too that willpower is a finite resource that is depleted the more you resist a craving. 
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-willpower/
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Re: Being alive right now is religion [Re: deCypher]
#18792979 - 09/03/13 02:03 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ah, but how is it replenished?
Mayhap it depletes when the need for it diminishes?
People also once thought that there were a limited amount of brain cells, but recent developments reveal that they can be replenished:
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For almost one hundred years, it has been a mantra of biology - brain cells do not regenerate. In a startling discovery that could have profound implications for treating brain disorders and injuries, researchers at Princeton University have discovered that new neurons are continually being added to the brains of adult monkeys. The neurons are added to the cerebral cortex of the brain.
The cerebral cortex is the most complex part of the brain and scientists were startled to find neuron formation in this "high" brain area. The cerebral cortex is responsible for higher level decision making and learning.
The researchers found the formation of new nerve cells, a process called neurogenesis, in three areas of the cerebral cortex:
Prefrontal region which controls decision making. Inferior temporal region which plays a role in visual recognition. Posterior parietal region which plays a role in 3D representation.
Read more:
http://biology.about.com/od/Brain/p/Regeneration-Of-Brain-Cells.htm
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Re: Being alive right now is religion [Re: deCypher]
#18793358 - 09/03/13 07:41 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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filmoe said: what pushes are conscious boundaries more then chemicals?
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Willpower IMO is chemical processes in the brain. Neuroscience studies have shown too that willpower is a finite resource that is depleted the more you resist a craving. 
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-willpower/
Those who exercise discipline seem to gain yet more discipline and vice verso for those who let themselves go. I suppose that could be heavily an effect of having built habits.
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Re: Being alive right now is religion [Re: deCypher]
#18796175 - 09/03/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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filmoe said: what pushes are conscious boundaries more then chemicals?
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Icelander said: Will
Willpower IMO is chemical processes in the brain. Neuroscience studies have shown too that willpower is a finite resource that is depleted the more you resist a craving. 
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-willpower/
They are mentioning the these studies in a book I'm reading for a college course, they sapped these college students self control by denying them cookies and giving them radishes when they were hungry, then gave them an unsolvable problem to how long they would work at it. They student denied the cookies only tried half as many times as the guys given the cookies.
Interesting, but how do we know it was the self control being depleted more than it is the fact that they had less sugar energy from eating radishes? Or lost motivation simply from being denied cookies in the first place and were not as appreciative of the conducters to continue with the test for so long, or discovered the irrelevance of the quiz sooner from not eating cookies?
I don't know if trying to solve an unsolvable problem for a longer period of time is really a good thing, nor does it necessarily point at willpower, if they determined the problem was unsolvable much sooner.
They also say specifically it isn't will power, but self control that they are claiming the study is represented of, so you're wrong about that.
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Re: Being alive right now is religion [Re: teknix]
#18796221 - 09/03/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think this study is pretty bad actually, obviously our brain requires energy to work, and if there isn't enough nutrients to provide the amount of energy needed it isn't going to work as self, I think they are drawing to much inferences in their conclusion to say that it is self control that is being depleted rather than someone is exhausting the energy reserves in their body.
So if your using your brain, then you are using more energy,and depleting those resources, it doesn't necessarily have anything to do amounts of self control, but the amount energy in your body to feed your brain.
(Using the brain requires energy) duh . . . Stressing the brain reduces the efficiency of it for the next task, which is biology, not psychology or anything to do with will power or self control imo.
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Re: Being alive right now is religion [Re: teknix]
#18797997 - 09/04/13 04:43 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yogi1 said: Those who exercise discipline seem to gain yet more discipline and vice verso for those who let themselves go. I suppose that could be heavily an effect of having built habits.
Yeah, I'd attribute that to the process of forming a habit and the brain's neuroplasticity. 
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The two are synonymous here, clearly.
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Re: Being alive right now is religion [Re: deCypher]
#18798699 - 09/04/13 10:48 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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What is ultimate are the places outside of the body. Shit is amazing. Death of the physical is just the floodgates to pure strangeness.
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Re: Being alive right now is religion [Re: circastes]
#18798704 - 09/04/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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How do you know you're ever outside of your body?
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Re: Being alive right now is religion [Re: deCypher]
#18798857 - 09/04/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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filmoe said: what pushes are conscious boundaries more then chemicals?
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Icelander said: Will
Willpower IMO is chemical processes in the brain. Neuroscience studies have shown too that willpower is a finite resource that is depleted the more you resist a craving. 
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-willpower/
Life force is quite something else then.
Life force is the kind of thing that can squeeze matter away from supernova and trigger the supernova and also radiate out gently through the horizon of the black hole.
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