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oyster mushrooms(cob web mold?)
    #18784452 - 09/01/13 08:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

couple quick questions regarding oyster mushrooms. first off, when I birthed my jars yesterday they all had this white layer over the top of the dried verm. it didn't run through just on top. it smelled like mushrooms. I scraped it off, dumped the dried verm my cakes birthed perfect, but the seemed a little wet and maybe slimy, but they smelled amazing. I did the dunk and roll, and put them in my FC. Any thoughts? im a first timer by the way, thank.


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: ab33453]
    #18784959 - 09/01/13 11:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So am I okay? Or was the slimy stuff bacteria? I mean they smell great. Also what is full colonization? When do I know they are ready to go?


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: ab33453]
    #18785066 - 09/01/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

sounds like  they'll be fine.
As long as it didn't smell bad, it should be fine.


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #18785097 - 09/01/13 12:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Nah, they smell amazing, like life... I saw a couple brown spots, but I read it is probably waste. Came right off. So I believe it was starting to fruit? Like if I would have left it, a,mushroom would have cone out of the hole.


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: ab33453]
    #18785103 - 09/01/13 12:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No way to tell without pictures.


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #18785666 - 09/01/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

[image]http://www.shroomery.org/forums/thumbs/13-35/806839589-thumb_WP_20130831_001.jpg[/image]


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: ab33453]
    #18785708 - 09/01/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

looks more like metabolites to me.


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #18785724 - 09/01/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

mushroom waste right? so based on the pictures(I can upload more, took pics throughout thew hole process)did I birth to early?


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: ab33453]
    #18785729 - 09/01/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

sorry for the misspells


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: ab33453]
    #18785782 - 09/01/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

As long as you let them consolidate for at least 7 days, you're fine to birth.
Metabolites are excreted when the mycelium is stressed, normally.
Which makes total sense seeing as you used taller jars than 1/2 pint Wide-Mouths.


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #18785843 - 09/01/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I kind of did everything you were not supposed to do also, just so I can see what contam looks like, but I used bought cultures, and was very sterile during inoculation. so, im not sure. so the lighter white spot in the pic. what is that?


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: ab33453]
    #18785875 - 09/01/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

so do you think this cake is ready to birth? what are the lighter white as opposed to the lighter and grey spots?


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: ab33453]
    #18785928 - 09/01/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That first jar looks a bit suspect.
The second jar looks fine.
Sometimes the mycelium will appear different in the jars, because the cakes are pressed against the glass.


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #18785958 - 09/01/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

nice, thanks. ill let you know how it goes


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: ab33453]
    #18788760 - 09/02/13 09:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quick question. what is this white substance beginning to grow on the outside of my cake? looks a little moist, kind of like myc, but im not sure. birthed them yesterday, they have been in for 24 hours, 12 on, 12 off. regular oyster mushrooms.


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: ab33453]
    #18788953 - 09/02/13 10:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

dude, no need to stress so much, you'll be fine :thumbup:

they look real healthy, with mushroomcultivation you need to learn to relax zen style about it :cool:


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: forrest]
    #18788977 - 09/02/13 10:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I swear I wish I had a valium for every time somebody has told me that during this endeavor. thanks for the reassurance.


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: ab33453]
    #18789464 - 09/02/13 12:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yeah,  in the beginning it feels like it is a sort of masochistic hobby, tormenting yourself with impatience and being unsecure, but when you have your rituals (specific method of cultivation) in order, and you feel confident in actions and seeing myc bursting of white powerfull health, it gives almost an enlightened high :sun:


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: ab33453]
    #18789480 - 09/02/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Just wait until you try something SLOW.  :hehehe:


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: Jeff]
    #18791869 - 09/02/13 08:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

yeah right.. like the cold weather shiitake I just started a culture with. year and a half after getting it to spawn..


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: ab33453]
    #18798194 - 09/04/13 06:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So, this is happening to all of my cakes. I know they look healthy and all, but my question is... Are those pins? Cant seem to find any pictures online that look like that. Thanks


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: ab33453]
    #18798255 - 09/04/13 07:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

pins they are not, looks like just mycelium but I'm not really sure why it would be doing that :shrug:


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: Forrester]
    #18798280 - 09/04/13 07:42 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

word. I mean I did the whole dunk and roll thing. should I maybe do it again?


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: ab33453]
    #18798289 - 09/04/13 07:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Okay, paranoia setting in. its growing kind of fast. Cob web mold? I can try to take some better pics..


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: ab33453]
    #18798340 - 09/04/13 08:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So, any ideas? And if it is myc... Can somebody please explain to me the difference? I looked shit up, and im a lot better at understanding if its explain to me than, rather than me trying to find variables and making assumptions.


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: ab33453]
    #18798345 - 09/04/13 08:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It looks like healthy mycelium, but its hard to tell.  I would wait it out and see where is goes from here.  It might be the co2 and the humidity being too high causing it to act as though if still in spawn run.


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: Aleon]
    #18798408 - 09/04/13 08:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So any suggestions? humidity is a steady 95%, ultra sonic humidifiers set to run every 3 hours for 10 minutes, air pump leading to a bubbler, submerged in 2 1/2" of water. 1 inch between water and surface level. light on for 12 hours, off for 12 hours, room set for 65 degrees. 10 less than incubation temp


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: ab33453]
    #18801326 - 09/04/13 10:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The way you've got it should be great for now, to get pins to form.  Just give them some time. 
Once you get pins, I'm not sure that setup will provide enough air for proper growth of oysters.  Depending on your RH, you might have better luck leaving the lid off or something.


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Re: oyster mushrooms [Re: Forrester]
    #18801616 - 09/04/13 11:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I second that.

Be sure the air in the room is fresh also, like have a window open with a fan in it.
Just having the lid open is useless if the air in the room isn't fresh in the first place.

Worry more about fresh air than humidity, you can always just mist them if they get dry..

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    #18802050 - 09/05/13 04:18 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i have been fanning them 3 times a day, and I drilled like 16 more holes each in the bottom of the fc. the air going into that room is pretty fresh, but I will leave the door open. Now what about natural light vs artificial? What im gathering is when I see some pins forming move the cakes into a larger area... perlite method? I really appreciate all this help. On a different note. transferred my first homemade LC into a syringe and am ready to try out "my" first strain.


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